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i'm sorry i love video game but fucking lol @ anyone getting upset because they can't make money from sitting on their ass playing video games uploading it to youtube. i understand that comparatively speaking nintendo are being tight-asses here restricting monetising when other companies are fine with it and understand it's free promotion, but man. this "career" of making money by playing video games didn't even exist a few years ago and now that companies are working out how to deal with it and where all the youtube ad money goes, people are getting upset asif they're entitled to being world famous sit on their ass playing video games commentary entrepreneurs.

am i tripping balls or is this kind of entitlement a mild form of delusion??

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/04/big-youtuber-says-he-wont-cover-nintendo-anymore/

you are not tripping balls, it's a bunch of bullshit and it's a major disincentive to being a part of broader gaming culture.

It's ridiculous that the developers think they deserve a piece of the income their free promotion generators are getting. There is nothing about it that is entitled. If anything the companies are the ones who seem to think they are entitled. There is a reason the popular content creators get paid to try out certain games, and there is a reason that many of them get early access + free access and benefits for new games. There is a symbiotic relationship between content creators and developers. When you start talking about licensing and profit sharing for content creators you're just undercutting their pay. Most of them are not making millions. Many of them are making anywhere from supplemental income to a decent wage. If you begin to cut into that profit you're basically guaranteeing that the quality of content creation will suffer overall, because many will start to look at it as a weak career opportunity, and when you start giving the developers leeway regarding monetization then you're dooming content creators to getting fucked over in the long run.

  On 4/7/2015 at 3:40 AM, usagi said:

you are not tripping balls, it's a bunch of bullshit and it's a major disincentive to being a part of broader gaming culture.

  On 4/7/2015 at 3:29 AM, bitroast said:

i'm sorry i love video game but fucking lol @ anyone getting upset because they can't make money from sitting on their ass playing video games uploading it to youtube. i understand that comparatively speaking nintendo are being tight-asses here restricting monetising when other companies are fine with it and understand it's free promotion, but man. this "career" of making money by playing video games didn't even exist a few years ago and now that companies are working out how to deal with it and where all the youtube ad money goes, people are getting upset asif they're entitled to being world famous sit on their ass playing video games commentary entrepreneurs.

 

am i tripping balls or is this kind of entitlement a mild form of delusion??

 

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/04/big-youtuber-says-he-wont-cover-nintendo-anymore/

Opinions like these will doom content creation just like Hollywood was destroyed. Just like the commercialization of music. Many of these content creators do not "sellout" because they don't want to be under the finger of the developers, because it is credibility destroying and creates pressure from content creators to give positive reviews to shit products. If the developers want to have a piece of the pie they should hire content creators and pay them salaries. Watch a gaming convention like E3 and you will see just how lame things get once someone is getting paid to engage developers and motivated not to be divisive in anyway because it damages their relationship and future potential for making that salary again.

  On 4/7/2015 at 3:29 AM, bitroast said:

i'm sorry i love video game but fucking lol @ anyone getting upset because they can't make money from sitting on their ass playing video games uploading it to youtube. i understand that comparatively speaking nintendo are being tight-asses here restricting monetising when other companies are fine with it and understand it's free promotion, but man. this "career" of making money by playing video games didn't even exist a few years ago and now that companies are working out how to deal with it and where all the youtube ad money goes, people are getting upset asif they're entitled to being world famous sit on their ass playing video games commentary entrepreneurs.

 

am i tripping balls or is this kind of entitlement a mild form of delusion??

 

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/04/big-youtuber-says-he-wont-cover-nintendo-anymore/

He's well known for crying foul if anyone but him is getting money.

There's a video of him almost in tears and throwing money at the screen telling YouTube to take his money.

Fuck him.

I'd also like to point out that almost every studio has a twitch channel where they can derive profits directly from their game with exclusive access already.

  On 4/7/2015 at 3:29 AM, bitroast said:

i'm sorry i love video game but fucking lol @ anyone getting upset because they can't make money from sitting on their ass playing video games uploading it to youtube. i understand that comparatively speaking nintendo are being tight-asses here restricting monetising when other companies are fine with it and understand it's free promotion, but man. this "career" of making money by playing video games didn't even exist a few years ago and now that companies are working out how to deal with it and where all the youtube ad money goes, people are getting upset asif they're entitled to being world famous sit on their ass playing video games commentary entrepreneurs.

 

am i tripping balls or is this kind of entitlement a mild form of delusion??

 

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/04/big-youtuber-says-he-wont-cover-nintendo-anymore/

You used to have to be really really REALLY good at playing games in order to make any money from it. And also not sit at home since you would be making the money at professional tournaments.

It does come off a bit entitled, but I can understand why advertising their game and having to fork over money for doing all the work (after paying for their game) is a bit frustrating.

  On 4/7/2015 at 5:31 AM, Braintree said:

 

  On 4/7/2015 at 3:29 AM, bitroast said:

i'm sorry i love video game but fucking lol @ anyone getting upset because they can't make money from sitting on their ass playing video games uploading it to youtube. i understand that comparatively speaking nintendo are being tight-asses here restricting monetising when other companies are fine with it and understand it's free promotion, but man. this "career" of making money by playing video games didn't even exist a few years ago and now that companies are working out how to deal with it and where all the youtube ad money goes, people are getting upset asif they're entitled to being world famous sit on their ass playing video games commentary entrepreneurs.

 

am i tripping balls or is this kind of entitlement a mild form of delusion??

 

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2015/04/big-youtuber-says-he-wont-cover-nintendo-anymore/

 

You used to have to be really really REALLY good at playing games in order to make any money from it. And also not sit at home since you would be making the money at professional tournaments.

 

It does come off a bit entitled, but I can understand why advertising their game and having to fork over money for doing all the work (after paying for their game) is a bit frustrating.

 

I don't think you guys are emphasizing enough how much time and work goes into playing a game enough to create enough footage to then edit down the footage into a digestible and interesting video. It already takes all day or days to get the footage before you begin editing. You have to get computer equipment capable of streaming in high quality which is a few thousand dollars depending on what scale you're looking at. If you make videos you need a high powered PC for editing and rendering. A couple thousand at least to get started. You need artwork for your channel which can include animated slides, videos, banners, etc. You need to manage your social media. You need to setup LLC's, bank accounts, handle your taxes generally with help of a CPA. You need to create ways to get viewership: giveaways, raffles, community events, etc etc You need to attend events which costs money and takes time to organize. If you're a streamer you need to be entertaining. Many use extra equipment, costumes, etc to create their own shtick. If it were easy to make millions of dollars creating content everyone would be doing it. It simply is not. Professional Competitive gaming is still very profitable and a large part of the gaming market, and many of the popular streamers of competitive games are professionals/ex-professionals. Good luck making a living streaming a competitive game you're not a professional at. It's an extremely hard market to crack. The truth is that the moment someone sees a content creator doing something fun in a game they want to play it which means they are going to buy it. The companies already know this though. The companies are simply doing what companies do best especially nintendo; extracting profit. It's like a manufacturer were going to charge consumers for mentioning their product or using it within a video. It doesn't make sense. It's free advertising and the person has already purchased ownership over the product.

"sitting in your living room" is so much different than "sitting in an office chair 30 minute away" o.O

Also, most competitive tournaments are online these days. Only the majors have LAN.

If these companies are capable of creating games and creating content that people want to view then they should do it and stop being bitches about it.

It's also a predominantly white, middle class activity, and I have little sympathy for the white, middle class complaining about hard work that isn't very hard.

I don't find his service to be that valuable, but I also don't think that a large corporation should be hounding him for more money since he's giving them a free service.

keeping in mind, the angry joe rant didn't stem from nintendo or youtube pulling the videos down, but from him choosing monetise ON, expecting to make money of course from him providing commentary to him and his friends playing a party game (i'm assuming there's commentary, i haven't actually watched the video in question and am even wondering what excellent "commentary" was even provided and so worth of them gorgeous precious youtube provided dollar bills.

but having pressed the monotise button and switched it ON, and the video being recognized as having nintendo owned content. nintendo are not pulling the video down but are asking for a mere 40% with the 'content creator' still making the larger cut.

funny thing is, with this specific 'content creator' in question. is that he wouldn't be facing this issue if he was using youtube to actually create content, instead of merely uploading video after video of talking over him sitting around not working and playing video games all day.

it's the equivalent of those fucking spam fake news youtube channels, that collate news from various news sites and upload millions of videos onto youtube with news automatically read out in computer generated text. playing a game from start to end takes TIME. and it's easy. long video lengths = multiple video uploads. more video parts = more chances for increased view numbers and higher dollar bills being sent your way. and for creating content ?? nope. for talking over video games that other people worked on and produced.

and all of this is over nintendo asking for 40%? give me a fucking break.

  On 4/7/2015 at 9:36 AM, bitroast said:

keeping in mind, the angry joe rant didn't stem from nintendo or youtube pulling the videos down, but from him choosing monetise ON, expecting to make money of course from him providing commentary to him and his friends playing a party game (i'm assuming there's commentary, i haven't actually watched the video in question and am even wondering what excellent "commentary" was even provided and so worth of them gorgeous precious youtube provided dollar bills.

 

but having pressed the monotise button and switched it ON, and the video being recognized as having nintendo owned content. nintendo are not pulling the video down but are asking for a mere 40% with the 'content creator' still making the larger cut.

 

funny thing is, with this specific 'content creator' in question. is that he wouldn't be facing this issue if he was using youtube to actually create content, instead of merely uploading video after video of talking over him sitting around not working and playing video games all day.

 

it's the equivalent of those fucking spam fake news youtube channels, that collate news from various news sites and upload millions of videos onto youtube with news automatically read out in computer generated text. playing a game from start to end takes TIME. and it's easy. long video lengths = multiple video uploads. more video parts = more chances for increased view numbers and higher dollar bills being sent your way. and for creating content ?? nope. for talking over video games that other people worked on and produced.

 

and all of this is over nintendo asking for 40%? give me a fucking break.

This post is pure fact.

As long as you're making a living off (or making a decent amount of money from) playing and commenting on video games on the internet you're in no position to complain about anything. So shush.

  On 4/7/2015 at 9:45 AM, Friendly Foil said:

 

  On 4/7/2015 at 9:36 AM, bitroast said:

keeping in mind, the angry joe rant didn't stem from nintendo or youtube pulling the videos down, but from him choosing monetise ON, expecting to make money of course from him providing commentary to him and his friends playing a party game (i'm assuming there's commentary, i haven't actually watched the video in question and am even wondering what excellent "commentary" was even provided and so worth of them gorgeous precious youtube provided dollar bills.

 

but having pressed the monotise button and switched it ON, and the video being recognized as having nintendo owned content. nintendo are not pulling the video down but are asking for a mere 40% with the 'content creator' still making the larger cut.

 

funny thing is, with this specific 'content creator' in question. is that he wouldn't be facing this issue if he was using youtube to actually create content, instead of merely uploading video after video of talking over him sitting around not working and playing video games all day.

 

it's the equivalent of those fucking spam fake news youtube channels, that collate news from various news sites and upload millions of videos onto youtube with news automatically read out in computer generated text. playing a game from start to end takes TIME. and it's easy. long video lengths = multiple video uploads. more video parts = more chances for increased view numbers and higher dollar bills being sent your way. and for creating content ?? nope. for talking over video games that other people worked on and produced.

 

and all of this is over nintendo asking for 40%? give me a fucking break.

This post is pure fact.

As long as you're making a living off (or making a decent amount of money from) playing and commenting on video games on the internet you're in no position to complain about anything. So shush.

 

  On 4/7/2015 at 7:22 AM, Braintree said:

It's also a predominantly white, middle class activity, and I have little sympathy for the white, middle class complaining about hard work that isn't very hard.

 

I don't find his service to be that valuable, but I also don't think that a large corporation should be hounding him for more money since he's giving them a free service.

This. This x 1000

They don't seem to like free advertising.

  On 4/7/2015 at 9:36 AM, bitroast said:

keeping in mind, the angry joe rant didn't stem from nintendo or youtube pulling the videos down, but from him choosing monetise ON, expecting to make money of course from him providing commentary to him and his friends playing a party game (i'm assuming there's commentary, i haven't actually watched the video in question and am even wondering what excellent "commentary" was even provided and so worth of them gorgeous precious youtube provided dollar bills.

 

but having pressed the monotise button and switched it ON, and the video being recognized as having nintendo owned content. nintendo are not pulling the video down but are asking for a mere 40% with the 'content creator' still making the larger cut.

 

funny thing is, with this specific 'content creator' in question. is that he wouldn't be facing this issue if he was using youtube to actually create content, instead of merely uploading video after video of talking over him sitting around not working and playing video games all day.

 

it's the equivalent of those fucking spam fake news youtube channels, that collate news from various news sites and upload millions of videos onto youtube with news automatically read out in computer generated text. playing a game from start to end takes TIME. and it's easy. long video lengths = multiple video uploads. more video parts = more chances for increased view numbers and higher dollar bills being sent your way. and for creating content ?? nope. for talking over video games that other people worked on and produced.

 

and all of this is over nintendo asking for 40%? give me a fucking break.

foolish things to say.

  On 4/7/2015 at 6:48 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

 

  On 4/7/2015 at 9:36 AM, bitroast said:

keeping in mind, the angry joe rant didn't stem from nintendo or youtube pulling the videos down, but from him choosing monetise ON, expecting to make money of course from him providing commentary to him and his friends playing a party game (i'm assuming there's commentary, i haven't actually watched the video in question and am even wondering what excellent "commentary" was even provided and so worth of them gorgeous precious youtube provided dollar bills.

 

but having pressed the monotise button and switched it ON, and the video being recognized as having nintendo owned content. nintendo are not pulling the video down but are asking for a mere 40% with the 'content creator' still making the larger cut.

 

funny thing is, with this specific 'content creator' in question. is that he wouldn't be facing this issue if he was using youtube to actually create content, instead of merely uploading video after video of talking over him sitting around not working and playing video games all day.

 

it's the equivalent of those fucking spam fake news youtube channels, that collate news from various news sites and upload millions of videos onto youtube with news automatically read out in computer generated text. playing a game from start to end takes TIME. and it's easy. long video lengths = multiple video uploads. more video parts = more chances for increased view numbers and higher dollar bills being sent your way. and for creating content ?? nope. for talking over video games that other people worked on and produced.

 

and all of this is over nintendo asking for 40%? give me a fucking break.

 

foolish things to say.

 

eh. at the point a game is paid for i feel like that's the end of any financial obligation from a user. if they want to send a cease and desist fine, but to ask the guy to advertise their games and take 40% (that's a pretty big fucking chunk) while doing no leg work is pretty shit.

also, you can't just tell everybody to "get a real job" when unemployment rates are through the roof. not gonna knock people who are trying to carve out a niche doing something they enjoy instead of making minimum wage doing "real work"

I find it more amazing they have the time to hunt down all the Nintendo videos. Surely they're wasting more money in hiring people to seach & destroy than making money from that 40%?

but it's their 40%

People who say it isn't "work" and it isn't a "job" are denying that it is entertainment and it requires production just as a sitcom or any other performance requires production. The games don't play themselves. Many of the sandbox games are designed to allow users to create role-playing narratives. But like I said, "foolish things to say", because he's speaking from a point of ignorance. He hasn't even looked at the guy's youtube channel to see that a large portion of his "content" is game reviews, interviews, etc. It's as if some of the people here are actually envious that someone can make a living doing something they don't hate.

Are DAW developers going to start charging people for making DAW tutorials? Are the Smith and Wesson going to start charging people for using a 1911 in one of their youtube vids? Do you guys not see this issue here?

I could maybe agree with an argument that certain single player games lose value to consumers when they are played all the way through and published that way. One developer in particular being Telltale games, but the fact is that they have most likely benefited greatly from their game being broadcast even if some people choose not to buy it after having watched the game played out. Multiple games have put tributes to popular streamers in their games, because those streamers have contributed SO MUCH to the success of those games. If you watch someone like LIRIK streaming a game you will see consistently that the moment he loads up an unknown game thousands of people start playing it that very moment. Developers who think they deserve more should shove it up their asses. Developers already try to pay streamers and youtubers to play their games, because it is so beneficial to the developer. For instance, if half of LIRIK's current viewers right this second purchased a $60 game then they would make 1.2 million dollars. Now what is going to happen is you will have people who boycott Nintendo videos, because that's what they should do, and you'll have the people that find it acceptable "just to make anything", and they will fuck up the market for content creators. Good old capitalism at work again. Fucking over the people who are willing to accept less desirable circumstances for themselves.

Developers should focus on making good games not nickle and diming their customers like Nintendo. Maybe if Nintendo started making some good new video game series they wouldn't need to make things like 15 different controllers for one console that only work for certain games, amibos, and they wouldn't need to start syphoning ad money off of content creators that advertise their game.

If you think it's unreasonable that broadcasters and content creators have made millions and billions for developers and somehow that isn't fair then I think you're crazy.

vaguely related.. but anyone watch Maximillian Dood's stuff? That guy single-handedly gets me excited about fighting games and the scene. Really the only youtuber I don't find to be pretty annoying. He is really watchable and his content definitely has production value that also isn't "look at me". It's just well done.

I don't watch a lot of fighting games, but I like this channel a lot http://www.twitch.tv/levelupliveI also love watching the tournaments of all the fighting games because the skill level is immense and that coupled with the casting makes it super fun to watch.

hmmm... i watched maximillian when sfxt was a thing but he doesn't really cover any fg's i care about (tekken). have watched a few of the level up streams when they're running tekken though. aris is a decent commentator with good enough knowledge of the game but his schtick can wear a little thin sometimes. rip is a bit more balanced. they've both got their own sites aris at www.avoidingthepuddle.com and rip at www.levelupyourgame.com where they post tutorials/news about fighting games but it's mostly tekkencentric. both have been paid by namco to write in the official tag2 strategy guide and have positive close associations with namco

IT'S HAPPENING

I'm not familiar with the Nintendo Youtuber guy story, only really saw what y'all have posted. But it sounds to me akin to Ableton coming to me and asking for a cut of any profits I make from selling music created using Ableton. I paid for something that's now mine to use how I see fit, within reason. It's not the same of course, but it's really not far from it.

edit: Just started Bloodborne today, finally. Only barely starting on the quest...all is great thus far. Love getting my ass kicked.

  On 4/7/2015 at 10:45 PM, Friendly Foil said:

IT'S HAPPENING

 

Noice. But it seems 2 years after DXHR? Still prequel... Wouldn't have minded if they went post-DX2. Or, if they'd make a DX1 remake (if they dont mess it up)