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  On 4/7/2015 at 10:59 PM, auxien said:

I'm not familiar with the Nintendo Youtuber guy story, only really saw what y'all have posted. But it sounds to me akin to Ableton coming to me and asking for a cut of any profits I make from selling music created using Ableton. I paid for something that's now mine to use how I see fit, within reason. It's not the same of course, but it's really not far from it.

 

edit: Just started Bloodborne today, finally. Only barely starting on the quest...all is great thus far. Love getting my ass kicked. :catsuicide:

 

To be fair, it does say in most games loading screens and booklets that games are for personal use in private property and not to be used for public broadcasting, whatever form that may be.

 

I still think it's a dick move overall, but the legal parts have been in the games for years. Even a lot of NES games say it too.

  On 4/7/2015 at 11:03 PM, Perezvon said:

 

  On 4/7/2015 at 10:45 PM, Friendly Foil said:

IT'S HAPPENING

 

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:w00t:

 

oh wait, right, I'll never be able to run this

 

:catcry:

 

whats that

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

  On 4/7/2015 at 11:36 PM, StephenG said:

 

  On 4/7/2015 at 11:03 PM, Perezvon said:

 

  On 4/7/2015 at 10:45 PM, Friendly Foil said:

IT'S HAPPENING

 

2842401-deus1.jpg

:w00t:

 

oh wait, right, I'll never be able to run this

 

:catcry:

 

whats that

 

wow good job.

 

Someone that's not sarcastic can you tell me what that screenshot is from? I'm on a work computer where image downloads are scanned and restricted.

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

  On 4/7/2015 at 11:45 PM, StephenG said:

wow good job.

 

Someone that's not sarcastic can you tell me what that screenshot is from? I'm on a work computer where image downloads are scanned and restricted.

how can you see the image then if their downloads are restricted :dadjoke:

 

even rightclick => copy image url? because you can also search by direct image url

  On 4/8/2015 at 12:01 AM, triachus said:

 

  On 4/7/2015 at 11:45 PM, StephenG said:

wow good job.

 

Someone that's not sarcastic can you tell me what that screenshot is from? I'm on a work computer where image downloads are scanned and restricted.

how can you see the image then if their downloads are restricted :dadjoke:

 

even rightclick => copy image url? because you can also search by direct image url

 

I can see, I just can't download. :cry:

 

I didn't think to do the URL thing, thanks. But you could also just tell me the answer mr.

 

 

  On 4/7/2015 at 11:49 PM, Squee said:

The next Deus Ex game

:w00t:

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

 

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had no idea you could search google by picture

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Reverse image search is a great way to check if craigslist ads and okcupid profiles are legit.

There will be new love from the ashes of us.

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  On 4/7/2015 at 9:33 PM, AdieuErsatzEnnui said:

People who say it isn't "work" and it isn't a "job" are denying that it is entertainment and it requires production just as a sitcom or any other performance requires production. The games don't play themselves.

 

But like I said, "foolish things to say", because he's speaking from a point of ignorance. He hasn't even looked at the guy's youtube channel to see that a large portion of his "content" is game reviews, interviews, etc. It's as if some of the people here are actually envious that someone can make a living doing something they don't hate.

 

 

 

reviews and interviews are obviously in a separate category from lets plays. you point this out straight up by defending the guys channel saying it's mostly reviews and interviews. i don't have a problem with that kind of content. it's specifically Lets Plays that im referring to here. the video i didn't check out was the mario party 10 lets play viddy, which has nothing to do with ignorance and everything to do with the guy taking down his own video in protest of not being happy with the 60% profits of money he's making from youtube sending him money. for playing a party game with his mates and filming.

 

doing lets plays is not akin to producing a sitcom. sitcom takes writing, producing, editing, man hours from multiple people. being a successful lets player is akin to having an attractive personality and being able to talk interesting things on the fly. and then playing video games and uploading it to video in an unscripted, unedited fashion.

^ and if you prefer your playthrough videos to have minimal talking and personality from the player, then that last aspect is totally moot and makes the whole concept no grander than just watching your housemate play.

 

maybe I should be paying my housemates and praising their drive to create original, meaningful content.

  On 4/17/2013 at 2:45 PM, Alcofribas said:

afaik i usually place all my cum drops on scientifically sterilized glass slides which are carefully frozen and placed in trash cans throughout the city labelled "for women ❤️ alco" with my social security and phone numbers.

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  On 4/8/2015 at 2:41 AM, juiceciuj said:

you guys seem confused about who needs to pay who for what

 

lol yes. i'll admit actually to being confused as to how youtubeers actually make money for their stuff.

i'll be honest, i watch my fair chunk of game reviews and video game related stuff on youtube, but the whole process of people quitting their day job and seeking out the youtubing stuff as a full time job and only using that channel to do lets plays and game commentary and stuff. it's such a weird thing to me. like, take the extreme example of pewdiepie. for him to be able to make millions of dollars per year from doing lets plays.. i have got nothing against him or what he's doing or his fan base here or anything, but i think it goes without saying that i just always figured it was a bit of a loophole to the youtube monetisation system. and that it's not just him but multiple people are making big bucks off this thing, and there's a whole army of youtube people aspiring to reach similar great heights of establishment and rely on youtube for a regular flow of income. i understand that it's work and effort but it has always felt like a tiny loophole to how youtube and internet money going to content creators is really supposed to be working. so when the companies are now trying to iron out how the money is distributed, it's just really funny and ridiculous to see youtube personalities respond so harshly and negatively. "ya blew it nintendo!! you really fucked up this time, nintendo!"

 

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I think these youtubers should be allowed to post the videos, but the first part of "fair use" of copyrighted material forces everyone to consider the clause "the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;" In this case, it was commercial, and Nintendo had a legal case they could stand on. Whether that was a good move or not, I can't say (seems like a step in the wrong direction), but Angry Joe there is not legally entitled to revenue by default, as far as I know. Many games companies think Let's Play videos and reviews/criticism are fine, but Nintendo is not among them. It's within their legal rights to fight it. Eventually videos like "let's play _____" will probably be brought to court and a legal precedent will be set, but I don't think that's happened yet.

 

Adieu at one point said something along the lines of "this will make people see this as a weak career choice" and indeed, it is a weak career choice for most people. For one thing, it's fairly shifty - it's riding the coattails of an existing product and selling it again. This is among the lowest forms of "content creation" imo. It's fine, I think it should be legal to share it, but I'm on the fence about monetizing commentary on someone elses' product and then getting upset when they want a cut. This is in no way the same as using Photoshop to make something that generates revenue - the EULA in that case explains that using the product to create saleable content is fine. Likewise with Ableton. But I don't think that's the case with most videogames. You can own it, you can play it, but I'd bet in most EULAs (the things we never read) there is a clause about using the game for commercial purposes other than resale.

 

tl;dr probably not worth getting upset about

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GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet
HAMLET: no
GHOST: why
HAMLET: fuck you is why
im going to the cemetery to touch skulls

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Oh, and I'm playing Rogue Legacy. Good times. I've truly gotten myself into a time-loss whirlpool here.

GHOST: have you killed Claudius yet
HAMLET: no
GHOST: why
HAMLET: fuck you is why
im going to the cemetery to touch skulls

[planet of dinosaurs - the album [bc] [archive]]

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demons souls is so fucking addicting. when i first tried playing it around same time as dark souls coming out, i was confused as to how to keep the health levels up given the healing herbs don't automatically replenish. it didn't take long for it to click that level 1 largely drops shit tonne of healing herbs and level 2 drops shit tonne of weapon upgrade related items. it's just a matter of having to actually play it to get the items in return. urrrrrrh. this game is fucking sweet *u*

  On 4/8/2015 at 5:22 AM, bitroast said:

it didn't take long for it to click that level 1 largely drops shit tonne of healing herbs and level 2 drops shit tonne of weapon upgrade related items.

 

I'm guessing it's entirely possible in to work yourself into a corner you can't get out of if you don't use these items right in the early levels. because that's pretty much what happened to me in DS2 :cisfor: I had to scrap my first character and start over. I didn't want to grind endlessly for meagre souls to try and get out of the hole I was in.

 

is anyone else playing Scholar of the First Sin?

  On 4/17/2013 at 2:45 PM, Alcofribas said:

afaik i usually place all my cum drops on scientifically sterilized glass slides which are carefully frozen and placed in trash cans throughout the city labelled "for women ❤️ alco" with my social security and phone numbers.

  On 4/8/2015 at 5:06 AM, luke viia said:

Oh, and I'm playing Rogue Legacy. Good times. I've truly gotten myself into a time-loss whirlpool here.

yeah man that one sucked me in. for such a seemingly simple game i think i ended up dumping around 50hrs into it before i got the platinum

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  On 4/8/2015 at 5:32 AM, usagi said:

 

  On 4/8/2015 at 5:22 AM, bitroast said:

it didn't take long for it to click that level 1 largely drops shit tonne of healing herbs and level 2 drops shit tonne of weapon upgrade related items.

 

I'm guessing it's entirely possible in to work yourself into a corner you can't get out of if you don't use these items right in the early levels. because that's pretty much what happened to me in DS2 :cisfor: I had to scrap my first character and start over. I didn't want to grind endlessly for meagre souls to try and get out of the hole I was in.

 

is anyone else playing Scholar of the First Sin?

 

 

i don't think so actually.. the enemies in the first level are pretty easy regardless of how you've been playing.

i think starting the game from scratch definitely helped me play a bit differently though. i had a similar thing happen with dark souls, where about half way through something would 'click' and i'd get this urge to reset my save file and start fresh, and then i'd remember how much bullshit i'd already gone through and would decide to push on.

 

i'm really looking forward to giving dark souls 1 and 2nd play through. maybe actually read some guides/youtubes before hand and play smart this time :)

  On 4/7/2015 at 10:45 PM, Friendly Foil said:

IT'S HAPPENING

 

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Yeah it's official - DX: Mankind Divided.

 

Nice change of pace from all these gothic/Victorian/steampunk-themed games that get hyped to the skies around here. Certainly something to look forward to.

 

  On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said:

To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean.

 

  On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said:

you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence

 

I'm having a blast in Warlords of Draenor right now. I have 2 lvl 100 characters now. My main character is tied for second in best gear in my guild right now.

  On 4/8/2015 at 8:02 PM, Friendly Foil said:

 

!!!

oh man that looks awesome I can't wait.

 

HR was really really good. One of the best franchise reboots I can think of tbh

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

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