'Global Warming's Terrifying New Math'

  On 7/7/2024 at 1:13 AM, Nebraska said:

 

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there's so many parts to this toxic shit we're doing to earth... along w/climate change

just close las vegas already. 

pfas. toxifying everything is cool

edit: neat. 

  On 6/26/2024 at 1:10 PM, chenGOD said:

South Korea’s is even worse and faster. Canada is heading that way. So is the US. 

At this point, you could argue the choice is either to have a shitty, lonely, possibly impoverished old age, or to have your kids and grandkids boil alive in their own sweat in 60degC megaheatwaves. I'm well aware of the issues surrounding the demographic crisis but to me, a miserable but peaceful decline today is still quite preferable to boosting the population now only to have the same thing happen down the line as a result of millions dying in agony from heatwaves every year forever. (Not that the two are mutually exclusive, indeed we're in for some amount of the latter regardless)

To be fair it's also worth pointing out that capitalism is inherently unstable and its dependency on an evergrowing population base is just another manifestation of that*, but maybe that's tad too marxist for this crowd?

*albeit one that could potentially be sidestepped through automation?

  On 7/13/2024 at 8:15 PM, Walter Ostanek said:

At this point, you could argue the choice is either to have a shitty, lonely, possibly impoverished old age, or to have your kids and grandkids boil alive in their own sweat in 60degC megaheatwaves. I'm well aware of the issues surrounding the demographic crisis but to me, a miserable but peaceful decline today is still quite preferable to boosting the population now only to have the same thing happen down the line as a result of millions dying in agony from heatwaves every year forever. (Not that the two are mutually exclusive, indeed we're in for some amount of the latter regardless)

To be fair it's also worth pointing out that capitalism is inherently unstable and its dependency on an evergrowing population base is just another manifestation of that*, but maybe that's tad too marxist for this crowd?

 

*albeit one that could potentially be sidestepped through automation?

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^^^ only a gay sex pile can solve this problem. 

  On 7/13/2024 at 8:15 PM, Walter Ostanek said:

At this point, you could argue the choice is either to have a shitty, lonely, possibly impoverished old age, or to have your kids and grandkids boil alive in their own sweat in 60degC megaheatwaves. I'm well aware of the issues surrounding the demographic crisis but to me, a miserable but peaceful decline today is still quite preferable to boosting the population now only to have the same thing happen down the line as a result of millions dying in agony from heatwaves every year forever. (Not that the two are mutually exclusive, indeed we're in for some amount of the latter regardless)

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It's not boosting the population, it's ensuring the replacement rate remains the same. It won't be a miserable but peaceful decline, especially not for the young people who have to put all their time and energy into caring for elder people.

We need to stop the use of fossil fuels now (we can do this with nuclear and renewable energy sources) as the first step, that transition needs to be immediate (relatively speaking).

flooding is crazy right now in china. 

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so, ya know all the minerals on the sea floor the mining companies want to scoop up? turns out all those rocks are a sort of geo battery. they naturally produced electricity and cause electrolysis which produces oxygen. lols. the mining company funded the research and aren't very happy. all that oxygen being produced creates O2 which makes sea life down there possible. oxygen being produced in the dark on the ocean floor w/o photosynthesis is pretty cool. 

what this may mean is that these rocks (nodules of minerals that take like a million years to be produced) shouldn't be mined  because it'll fuck up something essential to life in the ocean.. this likely means that all those minerals cannot be mined to be used for batteries for electric cars etc. 

so crazy. 

  On 7/25/2024 at 10:07 PM, ignatius said:

so, ya know all the minerals on the sea floor the mining companies want to scoop up? turns out all those rocks are a sort of geo battery. they naturally produced electricity and cause electrolysis which produces oxygen. lols. the mining company funded the research and aren't very happy. all that oxygen being produced creates O2 which makes sea life down there possible. oxygen being produced in the dark on the ocean floor w/o photosynthesis is pretty cool. 

what this may mean is that these rocks (nodules of minerals that take like a million years to be produced) shouldn't be mined  because it'll fuck up something essential to life in the ocean.. this likely means that all those minerals cannot be mined to be used for batteries for electric cars etc. 

so crazy. 

 

 

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how long before Paltrow gets a few and sells them as a natural way to aerate the snatch

  On 7/14/2024 at 5:13 PM, chenGOD said:

It won't be a miserable but peaceful decline, especially not for the young people who have to put all their time and energy into caring for elder people.

What's worse? A billion people spending their entire lives caring for the elderly before boiling to death? Or two billion people doing other stuff and then boiling to death?

Not meaning to die on this silly hill or anything, I just find the terror that population decline seems to cause in some people rather silly, given what else is in store for us.

  On 7/25/2024 at 10:07 PM, ignatius said:

so, ya know all the minerals on the sea floor the mining companies want to scoop up? turns out all those rocks are a sort of geo battery. they naturally produced electricity and cause electrolysis which produces oxygen. lols. the mining company funded the research and aren't very happy. all that oxygen being produced creates O2 which makes sea life down there possible. oxygen being produced in the dark on the ocean floor w/o photosynthesis is pretty cool. 

what this may mean is that these rocks (nodules of minerals that take like a million years to be produced) shouldn't be mined  because it'll fuck up something essential to life in the ocean.. this likely means that all those minerals cannot be mined to be used for batteries for electric cars etc. 

so crazy. 

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The seafloor mining was always marketing gobshite, pumped by a handful of tech bro companies - the mining industry at large doesn't give a toss. I don't necessarily see the removal of nodules as being inherently bad though, depending on how fast new ones begin to precipitate and what rate they pump out O2. Nevertheless, the fact that there's an abiogenic source of O2 on the seafloor is bloody fascinating, and could have massive ramifications for our understanding of climate change over geologic time. How much of today's atmospheric oxygen could have been created this way? And how might the rate have varied over time? 

  On 8/1/2024 at 7:13 PM, Walter Ostanek said:

The seafloor mining was always marketing gobshite, pumped by a handful of tech bro companies - the mining industry at large doesn't give a toss.

that's not quite accurate. there's an old ass big as fuck canadian mining company that wants all in on deep sea floor mining. also, different countries (china) are up for it as well.. but the canadian company is one of the largest mining companies around.. not at all a bunch of tech bros. 

edit: the nodules take millions of years to form so removing them is kinda a one time deal.

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more in depth reporting on fires and heat and stuff.

also - DOOM

“If the American people elect a conservative president, his administration will have to eradicate climate change references from absolutely everywhere” - Bethany Kozma: former deputy chief of staff at the U.S. Agency for International Development in the Trump administration

full video

wide encompassing discussion about all the things around economics, capitalism history, collapse and previous collapses etc.. 

edit: lols.. americuh dumb 

haven't watched a ted talk in quite a while but have heard this guy on some podcasts and he's quite concise is spelling out the big picture... as it stands right now

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ugh. the poor fucking lemmings. .. and everything else.. 

I am just a human being trying to make it in a world that is rapidly losing its understanding of being human.

congrats! we did it!

there was an idea that by like 2035 we might have things pretty decent

some talk of getting to carbon neutral by 2050. that's actually not possible, acknowledging political realities. i worry we won't even be moving in the right direction by 2050.

and that's the big question, how long will it take to get our shit together and will we in time? that will determine if we risk global cataclysms most don't want to publicly talk about but are possible. we need total yearly greenhouse emissions moving down, not up. it will take a lot of hard work to do that. if we get to 2100 and still aren't moving in the right direction........... that's hard to even think about. and it's dawning on me that this is the path we may take. the chain reactions over the subsequent 100 years, combined with continued emissions, we are going to wreck the place. the species may not survive it. earth has seen hellish times. get the volcanoes going off and it's all over. volcanic winter. there's no reason to think changing earth's thermal systems wouldn't involve geothermal systems. earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanos, (alongside the continually worsening hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, heatwaves, droughts, and floods) by 2200. maybe? idk. seems not great.

we need lots of breakthroughs, consensus, and policy. i worry we can't get our shit together enough to get there as a global norm in time. the whole world needs to agree that we need to work very hard on this for a long time.