Russell Brand destroys MSNBC host

?! so we agree or we disagree...i'm lost

the way he looks is unimportant, but he spends much energy on how he looks. you did see that other clip, right? if you haven't seen that, i could understand the confusion. he basically spends at least as much time on his looks as your gf.

  On 6/20/2013 at 8:08 PM, goDel said:

?! so we agree or we disagree...i'm lost

 

the way he looks is unimportant, but he spends much energy on how he looks. you did see that other clip, right? if you haven't seen that, i could understand the confusion. he basically spends at least as much time on his looks as your gf.

I'm saying that he never says looks aren't important. He is just saying that the way he looks shouldn't have an effect on his message.

nevermind

Something about this geezer I really like, there's also something about this geezer I really fucking hate.

He's an enigma to me.

Brand plays a caricature of he previous regular alternative comedian persona which only really came about when he presented Big Brothers Little Brother when the show was at its peak. His then new zany looks and attitude that he clearly plays up to set him apart from the other bland trendy C4 TV presenters at the time, sky rocketed his career and made him an icon of sorts (this and shagging Kate Moss). I think the BBC Jonathan Ross thing was blown out of all proportion by the media and gave an excuse for a lot of boring Daily Mail winger types who didn't like the look of him to start hating him just because they can't relate to him.

I remember soo many trendy students dressed in tight jeans, winkle pickers and messy big hair when he was in every other celeb magazine still I think off camera he's an intelligent and perceptive individual who's been around the block a few times.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj25Pv-h-r0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMD7FX29doQ&NR=1&feature=fvwp

  On 6/20/2013 at 8:49 PM, soundwave said:

Brand plays a caricature of he previous regular alternative comedian persona which only really came about when he presented Big Brothers Little Brother when the show was at its peak. His then new zany looks and attitude that he clearly plays up to set him apart from the other bland trendy C4 TV presenters at the time, sky rocketed his career and made him an icon of sorts (this and shagging Kate Moss). I think the BBC Jonathan Ross thing was blown out of all proportion by the media and gave an excuse for a lot of boring Daily Mail winger types who didn't like the look of him to start hating him just because they can't relate to him.

 

I remember soo many trendy students dressed in tight jeans, winkle pickers and messy big hair when he was in every other celeb magazine still I think off camera he's an intelligent and perceptive individual who's been around the block a few times.

yeah it was funny when people started doing their hair like he used to have it, all fake messed up standing up in the air proudly proclaiming their unoriginality, and collegiality with celebrity culture. Funnily ernough, there was a guy that briefly worked at my work who did his hair like this round the time that it was it, he then later went on to be a contestant on big brother.

circle of pond life.

This was just the other night (he takes full control of the conversation away from Paxman):

Seriously? Why do you think he takes full control?

I see Paxman asking some questions and Brand digging himself into some meaningless hole with quite a lot of gibberish. Brand didn't have the upperhand in this interview for a single second, imo.

agreed. you can see the point where paxo gives in and realises there's no point even debating with him.

then moments after brand is finished being the voice for the impoverished and suppressed underclass, he hops into his chauffeur driven limo to the nearest triple michelin starred vegan restaurant for some sustenance before heading to some exclusive member's only club with his £10K/night whore. i can agree with a couple of his points but the guy's a total dick driven only by his ego... and his dick.

at least he's speaking out.

I am stumped by the fact that people all over the internets proclaim that russel brand is owning paxman. Never, for one second, did he utter a convincing point, except for voicing some of the more popular concerns in our present day world.

I think most of us do want a cleaner world, a more equal distribution of the wealth, less ego dicks at the top of the foodchain, but until you come with a solution to the problem, just stating over and over that there, in fact, is a problem, doesn't really benefit the outcome.

I try to live by the words "be the change that you want to see in the world", which isn't an easy feat (or maybe that's just my ego being unproductive again).

I try to be more compassionate and caring, not trying to listen to my mind all that often (since my "mad monkey brain" has always got something to say on any matter.. and it mostly is being very, very rude).

Baby steps.. baby steps. I am aware of my suffering. I am aware of the healing touch of my conscious breathe. I am not as bad a guy as I make myself out to be.

  On 10/25/2013 at 5:43 PM, Hoodie said:

at least he's speaking out.

That is true.

  On 10/25/2013 at 5:26 PM, keltoi said:

agreed. you can see the point where paxo gives in and realises there's no point even debating with him.

 

then moments after brand is finished being the voice for the impoverished and suppressed underclass, he hops into his chauffeur driven limo to the nearest triple michelin starred vegan restaurant for some sustenance before heading to some exclusive member's only club with his £10K/night whore. i can agree with a couple of his points but the guy's a total dick driven only by his ego... and his dick.

it's better to hear him say these things in public than not, imo. Don't care for his background - just listen to the information.

  On 10/25/2013 at 2:01 PM, Bread said:

This was just the other night (he takes full control of the conversation away from Paxman):

 

That was fucking brilliant!

  On 10/25/2013 at 5:47 PM, Phoenix said:

I try to live by the words "be the change that you want to see in the world", which isn't an easy feat (or maybe that's just my ego being unproductive again).

It was interesting that he used the example of how Paxman's grandmother got 'fucked over' by the establishment and tried to relate to Paxman emotionally.

I agree with others who are happy by the fact that at least he's attempting to identify problems. I've never understood the mentality that if there isn't a solution immediately offered along with criticism, that the criticism is somehow invalid or worthless. "Can't verbally express why your job makes you sad? Then suck it up and stop being sad." Awareness further spurs on the search for a solution, not hinder it. And considering the media giants are incredibly restrictive in shaping our supposedly normative conceptions of how society does and should function, it is a good start by remaining confrontational with them like Brand has done here.

PS im not even a fan of his, but my theory as to his current cultural resonance is his ability to broach normal barriers of conversation in these settings. Usually a guest with like minded opinions is more likely to increase the vitriol and strawmanning. Or those doing the interview try but fail to "box him in" to a position that would result in an unflattering verbal confrontation. If anything, legitimate cultural/political/whatever critics should take a hint from his type of media "friendly" approach while maintaining a calm and reasoned counterargument.

they talk him down cus he has a positive message, and americans dont like positivity and progression especially the media

edit: they just want to talk shit all day about unimportant matters

well, regardless of the negative criticisms of the video, it's gone viral, so he has succeeded in one sense.

  On 10/25/2013 at 5:43 PM, Hoodie said:

at least he's speaking out.

word

and lol @ paxman's "you don't believe in democracy, do you? how can you talk about politics, you don't even vote!"

(i'm working through a textbook on the mathematical dynamics of voting systems right now... plurality (our typical western political method) always leads to a stagnant two party system according to duvergers law, and by arrow's impossibility theorem it can never be 'fair'... it's irritating to hear this "democracy!!" chant repeated so uncritically after having started this dang book)

  On 10/25/2013 at 6:16 PM, chartnok said:

americans dont like positivity and progression especially the media

  On 10/25/2013 at 6:11 PM, SR4 said:

Awareness further spurs on the search for a solution, not hinder it. And considering the media giants are incredibly restrictive in shaping our supposedly normative conceptions of how society does and should function, it is a good start by remaining confrontational with them like Brand has done here.

It helps that the Editor of BBC Newsnight used to work for the Guardian.

I'm seriously considering not to vote any more: every politician is just full of the same shit. Also, politicians don't know much, though they are considered to be our leaders.

Seriously. Politics is bullshit.

@"Brand has a positive message": well, what is it? that a revolution is coming which would solve all your problems?

@"At least he's saying something/speaking out": yeah, that's really unique in this era. people speaking their opinion/minds. well done!

@"nothing wrong with giving critique without solutions": too easy. he gives critique without taking a real position on any subject. it's all bad and the solution is somewhere outside the current "system" (without specifying what that is). some unknown qualified individuals have all the answers. sure.

he also has a rather interesting reason why he doesn't vote. not out of apathy, but out of indifference. he might as well be honest and say: "what the hell am I doing here and why are you asking me these questions!? I don't have a clue". At least he would have been honest if he'd done so.

He talked like a Sarah Palin, but with more words.

again, you're not listening to the information and philosophies to discuss their validity e.g. that Britain is still stuck inside established traditions when it comes to politics, and that politics is not an effective way to operate a society so that people's basic needs are met.