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  On 7/28/2013 at 9:04 PM, eugene said:

as if "winning" in a fox news argument takes any actual intellectual or emotional effort.

 

I am just saying that I think he handled being interviewed by a Fox news anchor better than anyone I've ever seen.

 

I think he's a cool dude, that's all. i'm not gonna read his book. I don't really care about his studies.

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  On 7/28/2013 at 9:09 PM, LimpyLoo said:

i'm not gonna read his book. I don't really care about his studies.

 

lol, pretty much.

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he comes out guns blazing. i've actually read a couple of his books, but whatever, it's a sidenote. i like that he's on the defensive immediately, because the host is a twat. her question is bounded up in a fallacy, that a muslim should have to answer for writing an academic work on jesus. can't believe people in this thread are so internet that they're actually arguing in favor of fox news. jesus wept.

honk if your a lazy bum studying psychology

  On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said:

This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song!

  On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said:

I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns.

I can't help but feeling sorry for that anchor. For starters, I believe she was given some narrative by the people she works for. Those quotes she got on her interviewing cards and, what was it, the question from some caller which was brought into the show. Those were completely outside of her control. Given the info which was given to her, and the culture shoe chooses to work in, she did an excellent job oddly enough.

The phd guy was a bit obnoxious talking about himself in third person for a bit (he was pretty obnoxious as well on bill mahers show last friday), but made a good point about there being a distinction between a professional scholar and just some pundit spewing opinions.

Again, I can't help but feeling sorry for the anchor.

I don't feel in the least bit sorry for her.

 

If she didn't know what she was getting herself into by becoming a Fox news anchor then.......really don't know how to finish this sentence wthout coming across as a complete cunt but you know what I'm getting at surely.

He got some dumb questions alright but I think it's piss poor style to continuously bring up your four degrees and fluency in biblical Greek and whatnot. He could have been a lot more concise if he wanted to. Just because you're talking to Fox doesn't mean it's okay to be a dick all of a sudden.

  On 7/28/2013 at 9:50 PM, manmower said:

He got some dumb questions alright but I think it's piss poor style to continuously bring up your four degrees and fluency in biblical Greek and whatnot. He could have been a lot more concise if he wanted to. Just because you're talking to Fox doesn't mean it's okay to be a dick all of a sudden.

 

The thing is, he wasn't bragging. She was painting his as some random Muslim off the street who out of the blue wrote a book about Jesus. He was just trying to make it very clear that he is a professional scholar. If he didn't emphasize that fact, then many people would have gone away with the impression that he was just some randon Muslim dude out to ruin Christianity. That distinction was a crucial one, and deserved to be pointed out multiple times.

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  On 7/28/2013 at 9:43 PM, hello spiral said:

I don't feel in the least bit sorry for her.

 

If she didn't know what she was getting herself into by becoming a Fox news anchor then.......really don't know how to finish this sentence wthout coming across as a complete cunt but you know what I'm getting at surely.

 

Sure, you can think of her what you want. I'm merely pointing out that much of what happened there could have been outside of her control and that she was just doing her job. Or trying to.

 

I don't know her work, but she doesn't seem to be one of those pundits having to sell her own opinion on something. And I think it would be wise to look past that part of the facade of media. She's a paid talking head. Paid to read cards, teleprompters and have the occasional interview. Just put this in perspective for a bit. It's the producers putting this on the air who probably had some kind of narrative they were aiming for. If you want to criticise people, aim your arrows at those people.

 

edit.: I do hope that if she has options, she'll leave that job immediately.

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  On 7/28/2013 at 3:34 PM, OneToThirtySix said:

She is so pissed by the end of that interview.

 

i find her attractive

  On 7/28/2013 at 10:10 PM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 3:34 PM, OneToThirtySix said:

She is so pissed by the end of that interview.

 

i find her attractive

 

damn good point. she's kind of hot guys, end of discussion.

People like you (you know who you are :P) are the reason that I used to be very careful in displaying my intelligence (not showing off, but y'know, saying stuff). I stopped giving a shit, but the man does it for a good reason, and I still don't see what's wrong with it, even if it's a little over the top sometimes. Why do you even care if somebody wants to stress that they're well-educated and knowledgeable in the matter of concern?

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maybe if this dude was sitting at starbucks engaging someone in debate he wouldn't have needed to fall back on his education to make a point but he had set and setting going against him pretty hard being in a studio environment with people buzzing all around bright lights and people trying to poke his face with a makeup brush

 

most people who go into these fox news shows end up seeming on edge and not at their best by any stretch

The interview at the daily show at the 17th was pretty interesting though.

 

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/wed-july-17-2013-reza-aslan

 

Just when I was pretty certain that Christian dude was some entirely made up character by the iron age Tolkien, he made it sound like there was this person who must have meant something around that time.

  On 7/28/2013 at 9:57 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 9:50 PM, manmower said:

He got some dumb questions alright but I think it's piss poor style to continuously bring up your four degrees and fluency in biblical Greek and whatnot. He could have been a lot more concise if he wanted to. Just because you're talking to Fox doesn't mean it's okay to be a dick all of a sudden.

The thing is, he wasn't bragging. She was painting his as some random Muslim off the street who out of the blue wrote a book about Jesus. He was just trying to make it very clear that he is a professional scholar. If he didn't emphasize that fact, then many people would have gone away with the impression that he was just some randon Muslim dude out to ruin Christianity. That distinction was a crucial one, and deserved to be pointed out multiple times.

 

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 10:15 PM, th555 said:

People like you (you know who you are :P) are the reason that I used to be very careful in displaying my intelligence (not showing off, but y'know, saying stuff). I stopped giving a shit, but the man does it for a good reason, and I still don't see what's wrong with it, even if it's a little over the top sometimes. Why do you even care if somebody wants to stress that they're well-educated and knowledgeable in the matter of concern?

Because it borders on authoritative argumentation and adds nothing to the discussion (if we can call it that). There are better, more scholarly and more accepted ways to show that your work is founded than "I have a degree".

 

I take it this guy has heard similar questions or opinions too many times and is just fed up. He starts going over his CV as soon as he gets the chance to speak. I think he does a better job of getting to the point later on in the interview after he got his credentials out of the way [which I think was a waste of time, even if the reporter was unlikely to consider any answer satisfactory] and starts speaking in terms of the merits of his work rather than his own.

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If a lion had the ability to think like a human would it still kill zebras?

 

Humanity is not the issue, nature is what makes us the way we are.

 

But dont fear, we are very close to shaking off all primitive thinking.

 

 

maybe

 

 

probably not

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  On 7/28/2013 at 10:42 PM, manmower said:

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 9:57 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 9:50 PM, manmower said:

He got some dumb questions alright but I think it's piss poor style to continuously bring up your four degrees and fluency in biblical Greek and whatnot. He could have been a lot more concise if he wanted to. Just because you're talking to Fox doesn't mean it's okay to be a dick all of a sudden.

The thing is, he wasn't bragging. She was painting his as some random Muslim off the street who out of the blue wrote a book about Jesus. He was just trying to make it very clear that he is a professional scholar. If he didn't emphasize that fact, then many people would have gone away with the impression that he was just some randon Muslim dude out to ruin Christianity. That distinction was a crucial one, and deserved to be pointed out multiple times.

 

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 10:15 PM, th555 said:

People like you (you know who you are :P) are the reason that I used to be very careful in displaying my intelligence (not showing off, but y'know, saying stuff). I stopped giving a shit, but the man does it for a good reason, and I still don't see what's wrong with it, even if it's a little over the top sometimes. Why do you even care if somebody wants to stress that they're well-educated and knowledgeable in the matter of concern?

Because it borders on authoritative argumentation and adds nothing to the discussion (if we can call it that). There are better, more scholarly and more accepted ways to show that your work is founded than "I have a degree".

 

I take it this guy has heard similar questions or opinions too many times and is just fed up. He starts going over his CV as soon as he gets the chance to speak. I think he does a better job of getting to the point later on in the interview after he got his credentials out of the way [which I think was a waste of time, even if the reporter was unlikely to consider any answer satisfactory] and starts speaking in terms of the merits of his work rather than his own.

 

 

 

Re-watch the interview. Right out of the gate he was accused of essentially being just some random Muslim dude who decided to write a book about Jesus. He's like "no, actually this is what I do for a living. This is what I've devoted my life to studying in a professional capacity."

Re-watch the interview.

  On 7/28/2013 at 10:42 PM, manmower said:

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 9:57 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 9:50 PM, manmower said:

He got some dumb questions alright but I think it's piss poor style to continuously bring up your four degrees and fluency in biblical Greek and whatnot. He could have been a lot more concise if he wanted to. Just because you're talking to Fox doesn't mean it's okay to be a dick all of a sudden.

The thing is, he wasn't bragging. She was painting his as some random Muslim off the street who out of the blue wrote a book about Jesus. He was just trying to make it very clear that he is a professional scholar. If he didn't emphasize that fact, then many people would have gone away with the impression that he was just some randon Muslim dude out to ruin Christianity. That distinction was a crucial one, and deserved to be pointed out multiple times.

 

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 10:15 PM, th555 said:

People like you (you know who you are :P) are the reason that I used to be very careful in displaying my intelligence (not showing off, but y'know, saying stuff). I stopped giving a shit, but the man does it for a good reason, and I still don't see what's wrong with it, even if it's a little over the top sometimes. Why do you even care if somebody wants to stress that they're well-educated and knowledgeable in the matter of concern?

Because it borders on authoritative argumentation and adds nothing to the discussion (if we can call it that). There are better, more scholarly and more accepted ways to show that your work is founded than "I have a degree".

Nothing wrong with authoritative argumentation if all they do is question his authority. They're all saying the same shit, and he's basically saying "I know what I'm doing, and I've been over this several times, so just look it up yourself". I bet he's arguing much more thoroughly with his researcher peers.

 

I'm judging solely from the vid in the OP btw, haven't seen any other interview. Tnx for the daily show link, godel.

  On 7/28/2013 at 10:52 PM, th555 said:

 

 

I'm judging solely from the vid in the OP btw, haven't seen any other interview. Tnx for the daily show link, godel.

 

The web exclusive is the most interesting part, btw.

Yeah exactly. The interview wasn't about the content of the book. It was about Fox News questioning whether or not he was qualified to write the book in the first place.

 

And he was simply asserting that he was.

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