Fox News host crashes live on air

i really fucking hate this forum sometimes

;D

  On 7/28/2013 at 11:01 PM, goDel said:

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 10:52 PM, th555 said:

 

 

I'm judging solely from the vid in the OP btw, haven't seen any other interview. Tnx for the daily show link, godel.

 

The web exclusive is the most interesting part, btw.

 

linkie?

 

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 11:02 PM, LimpyLoo said:

Yeah exactly. The interview wasn't about the content of the book. It was about Fox News questioning whether or not he was qualified to write the book in the first place.

 

And he was simply asserting that he was.

Do I understand it correctly (not only from your post btw - edit) that people in America are actually, really, in all seriousness discussing wether or not it should be legal to write books like this one?

Edited July 28, 2013 by th555

Funny how commenting on the fact that the dude is being arrogant for a minute or two of his ten minute interview is construed as "arguing for Fox News". But it does make me wonder how I would react to that kind of accusation if I didn't have the time to think before I type, so I guess it serves its purpose.

  On 7/28/2013 at 11:01 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 10:44 PM, baph said:

lol @ everything

 

Humanity is a twat

 

yeah I give up on this thread

  On 7/28/2013 at 11:36 PM, th555 said:

 

 

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 11:02 PM, LimpyLoo said:

Yeah exactly. The interview wasn't about the content of the book. It was about Fox News questioning whether or not he was qualified to write the book in the first place.

 

And he was simply asserting that he was.

Do I understand it correctly (not only from your post btw - edit) that people in America are actually, really, in all seriousness discussing wether or not it should be legal to write books like this one?

 

 

No, at least nobody that matters, is discussing that - including Fox News

  On 7/28/2013 at 11:44 PM, cult fiction said:

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 11:36 PM, th555 said:

 

 

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 11:02 PM, LimpyLoo said:

Yeah exactly. The interview wasn't about the content of the book. It was about Fox News questioning whether or not he was qualified to write the book in the first place.

 

And he was simply asserting that he was.

Do I understand it correctly (not only from your post btw - edit) that people in America are actually, really, in all seriousness discussing wether or not it should be legal to write books like this one?

 

 

No, at least nobody that matters, is discussing that - including Fox News

 

I'm glad.

 

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 11:40 PM, manmower said:

Funny how commenting on the fact that the dude is being arrogant for a minute or two of his ten minute interview is construed as "arguing for Fox News". But it does make me wonder how I would react to that kind of accusation if I didn't have the time to think before I type, so I guess it serves its purpose.

Welcome to the internet

it probably said on the script to "maintain incredulity" i shit you not ladies and gentlemen.

lol

It's kind of interesting how he says "you can be a follower of jesus, but not a christian". Of course it's the same old "aside from god religion has it's good points"- argument, but I never thought about jesus this way.

Very interesting thread and video.

 

Edit: By the way, both people in the video appears to be total idiots, so I'd say I'm pretty neutral in this. I'd love to see this thread go on though.

Edited July 29, 2013 by Friendly Foil

  On 7/28/2013 at 11:36 PM, th555 said:

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 11:01 PM, goDel said:

 

  On 7/28/2013 at 10:52 PM, th555 said:

 

 

I'm judging solely from the vid in the OP btw, haven't seen any other interview. Tnx for the daily show link, godel.

 

The web exclusive is the most interesting part, btw.

 

linkie?

 

 

Was included in the posted link. (4th part i believe - starting with the awkward silence...)

 

As you've prolly noticed, considering your next post.

  On 7/29/2013 at 12:01 AM, th555 said:

lol

It's kind of interesting how he says "you can be a follower of jesus, but not a christian". Of course it's the same old "aside from god religion has it's good points"- argument, but I never thought about jesus this way.

 

 

Also note the "and you can be a christian, but not believe in jesus" or something of that nature. ...*winks* ...well, my god, did he really just say that a lot of christians do not follow the beliefs of this jesus.... on national television?

 

lol

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/wed-july-17-2013-reza-aslan

You gotta watch that from 21:00 on in, I think you'll find him less of an idiot. And he says some things I never realized, especially his last point about jesus being a jew and how the concept of a god-man would be totally ridiculous to him.

 

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Also note the "and you can be a christian, but not believe in jesus" or something of that nature. ...*winks* ...well, my god, did he really just say that a lot of christians do not follow the beliefs of this jesus.... on national television?

 

lol

lol yeah. It's kinda sad how this old jewish stuff together with the story of jesus was abused by the catholics and all. Edited July 29, 2013 by th555

I like how he linked fundamentalism to science as some sort of counter movement of conservative religious people trying to fit their beliefs into 'science'. Interesting way of putting fundamentalism in a socio-historical context .

Especially literalism, fundamentalism's been around since forever I'd say.

If you're a muslim who wrote a book about christianity, you should know what you're getting at when accepting an interview for FOX. You've got to accept that you're gonna have to deal with total dipshits that completely ignore logical reasoning. That being said, I don't think he's being arrogant; what I'm saying is that he had already made his point of not being a random bloke like 4 times and it didn't work. You can't expect to make the same point a dozen times when clearly the anchor is not getting it / ignoring it; try something else

he could have taken this approach i suppose

or the long con tactic

^ lol at both those clips

  On 7/28/2013 at 9:57 PM, LimpyLoo said:

 

 

The thing is, he wasn't bragging. She was painting his as some random Muslim off the street who out of the blue wrote a book about Jesus. He was just trying to make it very clear that he is a professional scholar. If he didn't emphasize that fact, then many people would have gone away with the impression that he was just some randon Muslim dude out to ruin Christianity. That distinction was a crucial one, and deserved to be pointed out multiple times.

 

 

Completely agree with LimpyLoo, the bias was painfully obvious and childish, and she was totally unprepared and incompetent.

 

HOWEVER

 

that said I'm sure this guy, being intelligent, knew 100% what he was getting into by going on Fox news, and was counting on it, for the same reason he named his book "Zealot". How in the fuck do you possibly get attention as an historian nowadays? By taking some beloved or at least well-known figure, or event, and taking a controversial stance on it (eg., Lincoln was gay, etc). He has to sell controversy to move units, I'm sure he's aware being a Muslim writing about Jesus gives him more sexy-scandal-factor, hence why it's on pg. 2 of his book. He's no dummy, he's using the known traits of the media and celebrity to his best advantage.

  On 7/29/2013 at 4:00 AM, lumpenprol said:

[T]he bias was painfully obvious and childish, and she was totally unprepared and incompetent.

No-one here has claimed otherwise.

i really fucking hate Cenk Uygur or whatever his name is. Just show the goddamn clip already and stfu.

so i just watched that daily show interview and i gotta say i really like this guy. never heard of him before but what he says agrees with the other accounts & books i've read. was raised/schooled lutheran for 9 years ( ) so jesus became a pretty big part of my life, lol. fox news anchor can suck the hose.

Edited July 29, 2013 by luke viia

why do you hate him Smetty? I'd like to think he's one of the good guys who has a TV show right now. I don't really keep up with his show though

i would try to land an interview on fox news just to say some really insane shit that would go over their head enough so they wouldn't be able to use the time delay to bleep it out.

like '5 terabytes of snuff porn says that jesus was crucified' by the time they would realize what you just said it would be too late. Or say "i have 2 PHds in coprophilia, i am more than qualified on discussing this issue"

Edited July 29, 2013 by John Ehrlichman

  On 7/29/2013 at 4:43 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

why do you hate him Smetty? I'd like to think he's one of the good guys who has a TV show right now. I don't really keep up with his show though

 

 

i don't feel that he adds anything of substance in the majority of Young Turk clips Ive watched in my time. He comes off as a Bill Maher type color commentator. I know a lot of people here like Maher, many times I sort of agree with him, but find the dialogue to be way too forced or hammy "Let's make fun of George Bush nonstop". But at the very least Maher is a comedian, this guy Cenk just seems to start every YT clip with "hey check this out isnt this crazy?" then inserts some really forced and flat attempt at "oh-aren't-they-stupid" humor. I'm just saying let the clip speak for itself; I don't want some guy commenting over top of it.

  On 7/29/2013 at 4:48 AM, SR4 said:

 

  On 7/29/2013 at 4:43 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

why do you hate him Smetty? I'd like to think he's one of the good guys who has a TV show right now. I don't really keep up with his show though

 

 

i don't feel that he adds anything of substance in the majority of Young Turk clips Ive watched in my time. He comes off as a Bill Maher type color commentator. I know a lot of people here like Maher, many times I sort of agree with him, but find the dialogue to be way too forced or hammy "Let's make fun of George Bush nonstop". But at the very least Maher is a comedian, this guy Cenk just seems to start every YT clip with "hey check this out isnt this crazy?" then inserts some really forced and flat attempt at "oh-aren't-they-stupid" humor. I'm just saying let the clip speak for itself; I don't want some guy commenting over top of it.

 

 

Shit yeah, I kinda agree.