Flying Lotus tried to get new Aphex tracks for GTA V

Yeah, old rock'n'roll mythology isn't that far from corporate's. Henry Rollins is also like that, it's funny that both are fucking comedians, like this is a noble field of artistry.

If Rockstar offered me my own radio station in one of the biggest pieces of entertainment of the year, I'd totally turn down the offer in the name of artistic integrity. It's the only logical thing to do.

  On 9/27/2013 at 12:17 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

 

  On 9/26/2013 at 11:33 PM, popiax said:

 

  On 9/26/2013 at 6:13 PM, joshuatx said:

 

  On 9/26/2013 at 10:10 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

i just remembered Rephlex did the whole soundtrack for that lackluster Rockstar game Manhunt.

What the fuck. I was completely unaware of this! Huh.

http://www.discogs.com/Craig-Connor-Manhunt-Remixes/release/220198

 

AHH WHAT no way!!

I remember I used to want this game so bad but I was too lil to buy it and it had extreme high security against underage kids buying it :'( (I think that is why it appealed to me hah)

Gonna try to buy this and redo my childhood...thanx!

 

tip of the month

 

if you own a ps3 and some internet you can but it in the playstation store!!!

 

IT's actually not too bad - quite an interesting atmosphere, it's a little clunky (especially now it's about 10 years old now). The second one was absolute shite and correctly ripped to shreds but the first was quite a unique little game.

 

I'm sure I picked up that soundtrack at HMV back in the day - some great little remixes on there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEkKQ37FGTk

 

RDJ definitely had the right attitude about releasing his music in the 90's. Nothing can ruin the artistic integrity of your own track to you unless you let it. He gave very few fucks what anyone else thought about or did with his music. He also did remixes for just about anybody. Who cares? Many real artists don't need to be precious with their own work, because they made it for themselves and it has already served its purpose. He made a boatload of money doing it that way and lost the respect of no one.

 

It seems in interviews he has since retreated from that forward thinking vision. That said, I don't think he didn't contribute due to artistic integrity, it was probably more that reemerging as "The Aphex Twin" carries with it a lot of baggage - more press interviews, Warp office hounding for a new record, etc.

To go a bit further, I think turning down large sums of money to put your art in a commercial setting for 'artistic reasons' shows that you have no faith in yourself as an artist and believe that your art can be sullied simply by being associated with a commercial/game/TV show/etc.

 

Money is what gives you independence, the ability to buy new tools for future art, the ability to devote more of your time to your art, and the ability to do what RDJ has done and simply fuck off into your analog synth cave for the rest of time if that's what you want to do.

  On 9/27/2013 at 4:51 PM, cult fiction said:

He gave very few fucks what anyone else thought about or did with his music.

Aye, for example his proposed soundtrack for (I think) Virgin Airlines -

 

I don't see any problem with artists making bank loots

 

If RDJ wanted to make some dumbed down Dubstep remix for Skrillex and was being paid $50k for it, and he was going to use that money to buy a brand new actual robot to play a real drum set to create a new album like none other, would you support it? Why not

  On 9/27/2013 at 8:03 PM, Zeffolia said:

I don't see any problem with artists making bank loots

 

If RDJ wanted to make some dumbed down Dubstep remix for Skrillex and was being paid $50k for it, and he was going to use that money to buy a brand new actual robot to play a real drum set to create a new album like none other, would you support it? Why not

 

Because that blurs the line about being passionate about the artistry of music and being a sellout. I don't think many real artists are comfortable blurring that line. Also most of the artists we listen to are saleable based on this music being a niche (you must admit it is marketed to a select crowd, no?). By venturing into popular territory they may alienate fans and end up cutting losses, not sure.

Edited September 27, 2013 by StephenG

  On 9/27/2013 at 4:59 PM, cult fiction said:

To go a bit further, I think turning down large sums of money to put your art in a commercial setting for 'artistic reasons' shows that you have no faith in yourself as an artist and believe that your art can be sullied simply by being associated with a commercial/game/TV show/etc.

 

Money is what gives you independence, the ability to buy new tools for future art, the ability to devote more of your time to your art, and the ability to do what RDJ has done and simply fuck off into your analog synth cave for the rest of time if that's what you want to do.

I don't think it's quite so absolute. Imo, it really depends on how commercial use fits into the overall aesthetic. I don't think it's at all common to have a situation like aphex, where you can be a legend, not out out music for a decade and still get bank by leasing your tunes to commercial use. I think it's a lot more common for artists to have a far less defined identity or aesthetic and commercial use can really diminish their integrity. Tbh, a lot of artists would be better off continuing to innovate within their limitations than cash in on a Volkswagen commercial and buy a Rhodes and vintage guitars or whatever.

 

I think in the end it has more to do with the "thrust" of an artist's career: is it full of blood and power that may easily erupt into some insignificant or even conceptual commercial work? or does such a commercial presence further water-down their development? It can be a fine line.

since when does rdj take music seriously anyway

he gets mad when people talk to him about it irl or online

he doesnt even release it and when he does its an album of remixes with a pun name

 

hes like that one guy with blonde hair and glasses who made the soup can paintings - his goodfulness is from not giving a fuck, even about whether people think hes a sellout

Edited September 27, 2013 by Zeffolia

RDJ is the epitome of not giving a fuck about anything. And he never has, either. Even in his early interviews he said he hated the music industry and the whole record-releasing process. The only difference between then and now is the need for $$$

I think it is sad to not give a fuck. To hear a new Aphex Twin album would give me so much joy...

 

'insert tears.jpg'

its just a radio station in a game its not like shilling for monsanto .. wtf guys .. if kids get their ears rebalanced, is nice ..

 

you can understand why unreleased aphex monikor din get used ... man typing on a ph is a bitch ..

A little off topic but man, flylo radio is awesome. Banging a hooker to Windowlicker was an experience I never expected to have. Yeah it's the most cliche aphex track but think about how many people are just discovering this track because of GTA 5. I'm stoked that IDM (however vague that term can be) gets its own radio station in the biggest piece of entertainment to ever be released.

 

Ae.fm for GTA 6!

Edited September 30, 2013 by thehauntingsoul

Please no

 

Everyone's new favorite dubstep track would be Bike

  On 9/27/2013 at 4:59 PM, cult fiction said:

To go a bit further, I think turning down large sums of money to put your art in a commercial setting for 'artistic reasons' shows that you have no faith in yourself as an artist and believe that your art can be sullied simply by being associated with a commercial/game/TV show/etc.

thats a very one sided way of looking it. I don't think i ever suggested that one wouldn't want their 'art' to be 'sullied' with the association. It's more like if you actually hate that world, the corporate driven world that buys other peoples art to sell products, it's perfectly logical to turn down something that you actually passionately despise as a culture. It's your prerogative if you don't hate it or even defend corporate marketing culture by statements like 'need to put food on table' but not everybody shares that opinion, especially not me. Aphex twin took the money to have his music on bank commercials, definitely not something I would want my name associated with. But to suggest that for someone to turn this down it would reflect a non confidence in their own art is ludicrous.

Edited September 30, 2013 by John Ehrlichman

  On 9/27/2013 at 4:21 PM, Friendly Foil said:

If Rockstar offered me my own radio station in one of the biggest pieces of entertainment of the year, I'd totally turn down the offer in the name of artistic integrity. It's the only logical thing to do.

have they offered one to a sustainable artist yet and not a flash in the pan? i was't aware they did

  On 9/27/2013 at 5:19 AM, joshuatx said:

ding an interpolation that's 90+% identical without paying you at all.

 

Hicks is great but his music ramblings in general are a bit weak. It's like Henry Rollins and his infamous rant on "electronic" and "rave" music without a shred of fucking context or understanding. I do think selling out is still very much a real thing, but examples of that would be blatant corporate cooperation while "touting" indie cred (as I mentioned above)

what is your opinion on corporate entities understanding that 'indie' is cool and trying to plugin and co-opt that culture ie: Red bull Music academy. I know you've said that RBA is kind of a grey area for you, but I personally find it really creepy corporations are so successfully becoming 'buddies' with people that actually comprise of an 'underground' scene.

Holy fuck this guy is retarded

 

how did Bill Hicks, someone who actually has a pretty solid and informed set of principals get compared to a douche bag like Henry Rollins? Honestly a little disgraceful, Hicks doesn't deserve that. If you want to compare Hicks with another, choose Carlin for even a remote semblance of accuracy.

Edited September 30, 2013 by John Ehrlichman

Flying Lotus has excellent taste.

  On 9/30/2013 at 1:45 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 9/27/2013 at 4:21 PM, Friendly Foil said:

If Rockstar offered me my own radio station in one of the biggest pieces of entertainment of the year, I'd totally turn down the offer in the name of artistic integrity. It's the only logical thing to do.

have they offered one to a sustainable artist yet and not a flash in the pan? i was't aware they did

 

The whole "sustainable artist" thing you keep rambling on about is completely subjective.

  On 9/30/2013 at 2:05 AM, Zeffolia said:

Holy fuck this guy is retarded

 

 

 

Yup. though not a massive Black Flag fan, I always respected Rollins (as thats just the done thing in rock circles). When I watched that clip? I realised how wrong I was about him and what a fucking moron he really was. Having that attitude about music just makes you look a fool. I don't think I've ever had such an abrupt about-turn on somebody more than Rollins.

sustainable artist ? .. do they have band names like 'solar panels' or 'the photovoltaics' or 'recycle centre' must be something like that ..

  On 9/30/2013 at 11:22 AM, Friendly Foil said:

 

  On 9/30/2013 at 1:45 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 9/27/2013 at 4:21 PM, Friendly Foil said:

If Rockstar offered me my own radio station in one of the biggest pieces of entertainment of the year, I'd totally turn down the offer in the name of artistic integrity. It's the only logical thing to do.

have they offered one to a sustainable artist yet and not a flash in the pan? i was't aware they did

 

The whole "sustainable artist" thing you keep rambling on about is completely subjective.

 

it's subjective only if time itself does not exist, which arguably it might not.