Flying Lotus tried to get new Aphex tracks for GTA V

Ma truck left me, ma dog broke down, and ma lady died. Ima write me a gosh darn IDM song.

i do kind of hate great songs i love used in commercials. for instance, right now, im listening to a wonderful song called pink moon and all i can think about is a volkswagon

  On 9/30/2013 at 1:57 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 9/27/2013 at 5:19 AM, joshuatx said:

ding an interpolation that's 90+% identical without paying you at all.

 

Hicks is great but his music ramblings in general are a bit weak. It's like Henry Rollins and his infamous rant on "electronic" and "rave" music without a shred of fucking context or understanding. I do think selling out is still very much a real thing, but examples of that would be blatant corporate cooperation while "touting" indie cred (as I mentioned above)

what is your opinion on corporate entities understanding that 'indie' is cool and trying to plugin and co-opt that culture ie: Red bull Music academy. I know you've said that RBA is kind of a grey area for you, but I personally find it really creepy corporations are so successfully becoming 'buddies' with people that actually comprise of an 'underground' scene.

 

RBMA is seems to be more of an academic thing - like when a motor vehicle corporation gives a grant out to some scientists who then have free range to work on a project - a self-driving car or a experimental engine or some other not immediately marketable or profitable R&D effort, so much as they throw on a sticker on the car. When I watch the RBMA lectures I see some logos in the back, some cans on the table, and that's about it. There's not even ads sprinkled in the videos.

So that's why they are grey area to me. It's not far from the edge though. The Scion concerts and the Adult Swim albums are bit closer to that...free original content is tied to those endorsements, not just well, interview time or a DJ set.

The videos I posted earlier are what make me quite uncomfortable: those slick quasi-documentaries where people seem to read scripted lines, deliberately drink a fucking beer or liquor drink for the camera. That seems regrettable and questionable to me as a listener. My "selling out" definition is when artists flat-out contradict their own ethos, i.e. become hypocrites. That's why I feel like Green Day actually did sell out a few years ago. They still sell records off a faux punk image. That's shameless and lame.

Some of the corporate entity examples I do find cringeworthy:

- The current Levi's #MakeOurMark campaign: makeourmark.levi.com

- ABSOLUT Vodka's music video tie-ins

Whatever the fuck this is that Fiona Apple did:

http://youtu.be/lUtnas5ScSE

I found this to be a bit questionable too. They said it was because they needed money to tour, but personally I think they regretted it and couldn't flat-out own up to it being a bad decision:

For me, if you want to cash in on having a song used in a commercial, as M83 has done for GM and Victoria Secret, or play a corporate gig as a neutral musician, fine. But making money from a corporation and then entering into a delusional circle-jerk where both parties claim artistic and moral credibility? Yeah that's a compromise of integrity. I'll turn the other way most of time, but that said there's no apologizing for it.

  On 9/27/2013 at 4:14 PM, Amen Lare said:

Yeah, old rock'n'roll mythology isn't that far from corporate's. Henry Rollins is also like that, it's funny that both are fucking comedians, like this is a noble field of artistry.

??

Comedy is one of the greatest forms of art. Definitely equal to film, music, dance, television, poetry, etc. Making people laugh with surprise and insight is a gift.

To complain about possibly selling out based on the Grand Theft Auto series? That's insane. I would love to be asked to have a track of mine put into GTA. One of the best things about GTA are the radio stations! And on top of that, they make bloody brilliant games. They're success should have nothing to do choosing to accept or refuse their offer. If you're against the violent aspect of the game, sure.

I'm going to have to assume, right or wrong, that most of the people turning their lips and pulling the 'sellout' card don't make music or are still in their early 20s. You can have your own personal ideologies as an artist and refuse to let your music be bought or licensed by certain companies if you'd like (oil, banks, Nike, etc.), but the idea that you should stay 'pure' to keep indie cred is just ridiculous since the people in the indie cred business rarely have much money to give. An artist makes art for themselves first and if some people want to buy it, you jump on that opportunity with no qualms in how you're going to be seen by the 'scene'. Street cred fans are not their personal friends and, if they feel betrayed by their decision to make good money off their art, then so be it. The reach in having your track in a video game like GTA is enormous. It's practically winning the lottery.

  On 9/30/2013 at 2:05 AM, Zeffolia said:

Holy fuck this guy is retarded

 

I agree with basically everything he's saying, at least as it pertains to the current rave scene, as well as what he says about modern rock, it's spot on. What exactly are you guys taking issue with here?

  On 10/2/2013 at 10:31 PM, thehauntingsoul said:

 

  On 9/30/2013 at 2:05 AM, Zeffolia said:

Holy fuck this guy is retarded

 

 

I agree with basically everything he's saying, at least as it pertains to the current rave scene, as well as what he says about modern rock, it's spot on. What exactly are you guys taking issue with here?

 

henry rollins talks a lot of shit but i agree asswel here

1.44 he talks about autechre

  On 10/2/2013 at 9:59 PM, paranerd said:

 

  On 9/27/2013 at 4:14 PM, Amen Lare said:

Yeah, old rock'n'roll mythology isn't that far from corporate's. Henry Rollins is also like that, it's funny that both are fucking comedians, like this is a noble field of artistry.

??

 

Comedy is one of the greatest forms of art. Definitely equal to film, music, dance, television, poetry, etc. Making people laugh with surprise and insight is a gift.

 

This is an empty slogan made of words with almost no meaning.

I can go as far as to Aristotle in defining comedy genre as lowest genre, but I'm actually not an opponent to the genre (and by equaling it to larger art forms you only create confusion). I'm only talking about entertainment industry in which it operates here. Key word is entertainment, art can't be functional by definition. It's a work made of compromises with a very basic level of understanding in audience. Everything they do when on that stage is heavily depends on formula (often written by others) and relies not on surprise or insight like you put it, but certain artistic presence of a low sort of acting. It doesn't mean that anyone doing this is bad artist or has no talent, it's just more primitive and therefore limited level.

  On 10/2/2013 at 10:41 PM, Ivan Ooze said:

 

  On 10/2/2013 at 10:31 PM, thehauntingsoul said:

 

  On 9/30/2013 at 2:05 AM, Zeffolia said:

Holy fuck this guy is retarded

 

 

I agree with basically everything he's saying, at least as it pertains to the current rave scene, as well as what he says about modern rock, it's spot on. What exactly are you guys taking issue with here?

 

henry rollins talks a lot of shit but i agree asswel here

 

1.44 he talks about autechre

 

It's him talking about EDM and in particular when he talks about shitty music + rave I can't help but think of godawful late 90s/early 00s prog house and trance DJs and the people who took an array of drugs while listening to them.

He has no concept of the greater context and diversity of electronic music and rave, but if he did this wouldn't be a spoken word comedy bit, it'd be a discussion. So he didn't bother. It comes off as arrogant but I get what he's saying. It reminds me of the ironic fact that wikipedia has over a dozen articles for various Hardcore Techno genres and yet the one for IDM, a far more diverse genre musically, is on one page.

Oh well, it's been sampled in a tongue-in-cheek way so I suppose it's come full circle.

  On 10/2/2013 at 10:43 PM, Amen Lare said:

 

  On 10/2/2013 at 9:59 PM, paranerd said:

 

  On 9/27/2013 at 4:14 PM, Amen Lare said:

Yeah, old rock'n'roll mythology isn't that far from corporate's. Henry Rollins is also like that, it's funny that both are fucking comedians, like this is a noble field of artistry.

??

 

Comedy is one of the greatest forms of art. Definitely equal to film, music, dance, television, poetry, etc. Making people laugh with surprise and insight is a gift.

 

 

This is an empty slogan made of words with almost no meaning.

 

I can go as far as to Aristotle in defining comedy genre as lowest genre, but I'm actually not an opponent to the genre (and by equaling it to larger art forms you only create confusion). I'm only talking about entertainment industry in which it operates here. Key word is entertainment, art can't be functional by definition. It's a work made of compromises with a very basic level of understanding in audience. Everything they do when on that stage is heavily depends on formula (often written by others) and relies not on surprise or insight like you put it, but certain artistic presence of a low sort of acting. It doesn't mean that anyone doing this is bad artist or has no talent, it's just more primitive and therefore limited level.

 

wot

  On 9/26/2013 at 6:40 PM, cult fiction said:

 

  On 9/26/2013 at 6:13 PM, joshuatx said:

 

  On 9/26/2013 at 10:10 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

i just remembered Rephlex did the whole soundtrack for that lackluster Rockstar game Manhunt.

What the fuck. I was completely unaware of this! Huh.

 

http://www.discogs.com/Craig-Connor-Manhunt-Remixes/release/220198

 

Some of these are pretty good! All songs are on youtube:

 

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL548C4E0F77EE99E8

 

Some mysterious figures on there... Grandfather Rabbit Ears, Tony Simos?

 

 

[youtubehd]JjqJa8GSul0[/youtubehd]

the flying lotus channel is the best thing on gtaV radio and more then half of it is his own productions

to all yall suckers talking shit about him on watmm

  On 10/2/2013 at 10:43 PM, Amen Lare said:

 

  On 10/2/2013 at 9:59 PM, paranerd said:

 

  On 9/27/2013 at 4:14 PM, Amen Lare said:

Yeah, old rock'n'roll mythology isn't that far from corporate's. Henry Rollins is also like that, it's funny that both are fucking comedians, like this is a noble field of artistry.

??

 

Comedy is one of the greatest forms of art. Definitely equal to film, music, dance, television, poetry, etc. Making people laugh with surprise and insight is a gift.

 

 

This is an empty slogan made of words with almost no meaning.

 

I can go as far as to Aristotle in defining comedy genre as lowest genre, but I'm actually not an opponent to the genre (and by equaling it to larger art forms you only create confusion). I'm only talking about entertainment industry in which it operates here. Key word is entertainment, art can't be functional by definition. It's a work made of compromises with a very basic level of understanding in audience. Everything they do when on that stage is heavily depends on formula (often written by others) and relies not on surprise or insight like you put it, but certain artistic presence of a low sort of acting. It doesn't mean that anyone doing this is bad artist or has no talent, it's just more primitive and therefore limited level.

 

Say this every time someone tries to make you laugh. Then stare back at them with a psycho gleam in your eye and snarl and grab your junk.

  On 10/3/2013 at 3:12 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

the flying lotus channel is the best thing on gtaV radio and more then half of it is his own productions

to all yall suckers talking shit about him on watmm

I sense a bit of jelly in here from certain people.

  On 9/27/2013 at 12:17 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

 

  On 9/26/2013 at 11:33 PM, popiax said:

 

  On 9/26/2013 at 6:13 PM, joshuatx said:

 

  On 9/26/2013 at 10:10 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

i just remembered Rephlex did the whole soundtrack for that lackluster Rockstar game Manhunt.

 

What the fuck. I was completely unaware of this! Huh.

 

http://www.discogs.com/Craig-Connor-Manhunt-Remixes/release/220198

 

AHH WHAT no way!!

I remember I used to want this game so bad but I was too lil to buy it and it had extreme high security against underage kids buying it :'( (I think that is why it appealed to me hah)

Gonna try to buy this and redo my childhood...thanx!

 

tip of the month

 

if you own a ps3 and some internet you can but it in the playstation store!!!

 

This remix CD is not very good

you didnt buy it did you mate .. ?!

lol that manhunt release was a bit odd.

The game was amazing but the soundtrack was mix-mash of random tracks tbh

Sunrise on GTA5 and N Joi - Anthem comes on. What a fucking euphoric moment. The sound track is lush

  On 10/3/2013 at 1:01 PM, B1000 said:

lol that manhunt release was a bit odd.

 

The game was amazing but the soundtrack was mix-mash of random tracks tbh

boggy's tracks are good tho