Star Wars Episode VII *MAJOR SPOILERS*

It seemed like he took off his mask whe he needed a good cry

  On 12/22/2015 at 7:05 PM, BCM said:

just seen this today. really good movie. best star wars film imo.

you must be the one who thinks the beatles stole everything from oasis

no that's not me mate sorry

  On 12/22/2015 at 10:18 AM, Rubin Farr said:

Jeez, this movie was bad.

i wanted to quote all of his posts in this thread, ending with that one, but screw that

  On 12/22/2015 at 9:36 PM, triachus said:

 

  On 12/22/2015 at 10:18 AM, Rubin Farr said:

Jeez, this movie was bad.

 

i wanted to quote all of his posts in this thread, ending with that one, but screw that

 

it's all about the journey not the destination m8

the laughs we had, the tears we shed

etc

  On 12/22/2015 at 9:36 PM, triachus said:

 

  On 12/22/2015 at 10:18 AM, Rubin Farr said:

Jeez, this movie was bad.

i wanted to quote all of his posts in this thread, ending with that one, but screw that

I've been looking forward to this movie since it was announced, so it was a big disappointment to me. I still love Star Wars though, Rebels is great. This was just a speed bump along the way.

cant resists to post this.

just starting trouble where there is none, today i saw a woman dressed as laila and i nor anyone thought it was weird (as far as i can tell)

Not to harp on this movie as I said I have a soft spot for SW, but this nails it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/40-unforgivable-plot-holes-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens_b_8850324.html

the whole captain phasma thing is the dumbest complaint ever.

it's obvious now she was doing the press circuits because she's in game of thrones and is super popular, but within the context of the film itself ... there is no reason to be excited or disappointed at lack of phasma. she's a minor character that gets more screen time than boba fett yet everyone is up in arms because they had expectations of some kick ass super prominent character.

the rest of those points ... fall largely to sloppy writing and happy conveniences. agreed.

so many of those complaints are pretty silly and are about on-level with the conveniences and lazy writing of the original trilogy. seriously, watch all 3 back to back and they don't exactly add up to make some big super logical story. the description of the force jumps around from movie to movie. they even seem to make a joke of it every now and then. obi wan ghost - " so ... from a certain perspective, what i said was true." luke - ' pffft... from a certain perspective".

if the jedis were a super prominent religion in the prequel trilogy complete with massive temple in capital planet of the system (coruscant) where they train and walk around and engage in battles (( ... THE CLONE WARS ... anyone? )) , and have some massive skyscraper called the jedi council, etc. why do the imperials in A New Hope have 0 recollection of the jedi and refer to vaders jedi hobby as some dumb hobbledigook made up fad ??.

the main thing i don't understand about the new film is the resistance. after the fall of the empire in VI, the republic seem to take over full time and rule the universe or something? but then in VII they're back to square one and don't have a proper military and instead and are in hiding on remote locations and using a " resistance " force that is identical to the super underground rebel forces in the original trilogy.

ultimately it doesn't matter and the film is clearly the way it is in an attempt to " reboot " star wars and use A New Hope as a backbone for the story.

Another good article, on the novelization, which are usually much more detailed, especially here where some scenes had no dialogue so you have to describe that with actual werds, and some stuff cut out we'll probly see on the home video release:

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-11-biggest-differences-between-the-book-and-movie-v-1749329046

This film was excellent. The flaws are so minor in the midst of how much I enjoyed watching it.

  On 12/23/2015 at 7:30 AM, Rubin Farr said:

Not to harp on this movie as I said I have a soft spot for SW, but this nails it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/40-unforgivable-plot-holes-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens_b_8850324.html

Nails it? A lot of these are moot points/nitpicks.

  On 12/23/2015 at 8:00 AM, Rubin Farr said:

Another good article, on the novelization, which are usually much more detailed, especially here where some scenes had no dialogue so you have to describe that with actual werds, and some stuff cut out we'll probly see on the home video release:

 

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-11-biggest-differences-between-the-book-and-movie-v-1749329046

oo man. this actually clears up exactly what i was confused about earlier re: the resistance

as well as ... more or less confirms the snoke theory i posted (???) :)

I'm gonna call it right now incase no one has yet.

In episode 8:

Having said all that, it's not a big deal, it was a pretty enjoyable movie, looked great, humour worked well, music was good, and served as a pretty loving homage to the original movies, and helped somewhat in clearing off the stink of the last three movies. Hopefully it'll develop a bit more of it's own personality and some more original plotting in the next two though.

I thought it was really good, but pandered toward the superfans a bit. A lot of parallels to ep4, maybe too many. It gave me 'the feels' though, as children say these days.

the best bit is when BB-8 gives a thumbs up

like after like 5 seconds in the movie i realised i had fallen into a trap of some sorts where a little bb8 had swalloed some super secret data slot

tnx a lot disney

i had some enjoyable moments..., but i had no superfun or something

it was just ok i guess. i dont feel the need to put it into more words than that

Saw it yesterday and enjoyed it, felt a bit rushed though. After reading about what was cut and changed, I'll be curious to see a future extended/director's cut.

But the thing to me about SW and similar films isn't much in how you feel the first time you watch it, but how it holds up to repeat viewings. That's something that'll really define this and the upcoming films.

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saw it yesterday. someone at work blurted out that han got killed, which was a huge bummer. i'm not super sensitive to spoilers but this one was tough for me because I watched the whole movie anticipating that emotional blow. but the visuals, the acting, the spaceships!!!!, the story, all that was good enough that by the time i knew it was coming i was ready and not super bummed. i think i need to see it a second time to just enjoy it because i got the sense that it was a super enjoyable movie but yeah, had that shit hanging over my head.

anyway, i thought the two kids were superb, better actors than the old regular cast and it was especially striking when they were in scenes together. that makes me super hopeful for what comes next. i was a little bummed this one had the EXACT same beats as episode 4, but that's forgivable. and for the love of god don't let rae be a skywalker/solo. just let her have her own mystery. jeez. we already re-did the patricide thing. do we have to redo the weird brother sister chemistry thing? no!

  On 12/24/2015 at 3:46 AM, coolandfrank said:

and for the love of god don't let rae be a skywalker/solo. just let her have her own mystery. jeez. we already re-did the patricide thing. do we have to redo the weird brother sister chemistry thing? no!

maybe Obi Wan had a brother or a sister (might explain her british accent)? whoever it turns out to be I think it'll be a key element in the trilogy, can't see them introducing it as part of the story and including it in her lightsabre-flashback/premonition trip if it wasn't going to be important later on.

I saw it for the second time this evening, it certainly held up to the second viewing, and I realised a few things that could've been clearer the first time. I didn't cop on that the republic homeworld and it's moons had been blown up, I thought all that would be still on coruscant for some reason, I thought they were just speaking figuratively at their little fascist rally, they could've maybe done with a bit more exposition in parts to make some of the political backdrop a bit more obvious - though not to the same boring level as with the prequels of course (am still a little unsure as to what the deal is with the republic, resistance, empire/first order and how they all relate to one another now - I'm guessing they'll spend more time on this in the next one, they were focusing on naive kids in this one, entering into a world they knew little about, so maybe it was a deliberate choice to keep it all focused on their immediate reactions to events rather than trying to create a big-picture view of what's going on). I also got the feeling that maybe it was a bit rushed in parts, which I hadn't really felt the first time round, apparently they cut quite a lot so will definitely be good if they can release an extended cut (Disney will want to wring as much money from this as possible, so there's a good chance I think).

  On 12/24/2015 at 3:46 AM, coolandfrank said:

saw it yesterday. someone at work blurted out that han got killed, which was a huge bummer. i'm not super sensitive to spoilers but this one was tough for me because I watched the whole movie anticipating that emotional blow. but the visuals, the acting, the spaceships!!!!, the story, all that was good enough that by the time i knew it was coming i was ready and not super bummed. i think i need to see it a second time to just enjoy it because i got the sense that it was a super enjoyable movie but yeah, had that shit hanging over my head.

 

anyway, i thought the two kids were superb, better actors than the old regular cast and it was especially striking when they were in scenes together. that makes me super hopeful for what comes next. i was a little bummed this one had the EXACT same beats as episode 4, but that's forgivable. and for the love of god don't let rae be a skywalker/solo. just let her have her own mystery. jeez. we already re-did the patricide thing. do we have to redo the weird brother sister chemistry thing? no!

*blubbed out in george lucas accent*

it's like poetry .. it rhymes