Star Wars Episode VII *MAJOR SPOILERS*

  On 12/29/2015 at 4:38 PM, Joyrex said:

I don't mind ticket prices so much (paid 9.50USD for adult tickets for Star Wars), it's the concessions (funny word, that) that are so overpriced - I paid a total of 9.50x3 for tickets = 28.50, but for two large drinks, a bottled water, and a large popcorn, the total was 26.00!

 

We normally don't buy that stuff, but it was a matinee and we hadn't eaten since breakfast and didn't want to wait until almost 4:00 without eating.

 

Are concessions similarly overpriced in overseas theatres?

Yep. captive market pricing model. Just imagine if the barons of cinema spread the borders of their domain out into the wider community, you'd go to the supermarket for some $8 dollar spaghetti, and it would cost 10'000 dollars to service your car.

LOL, he calls Disney "white slavers", you can see he regrets selling Lucasfilm now. IMO, Lucas should have directed Episode VII, then sold to Disney. It would be more in tone with the previous Six Films, the three major actors were already on board, the new characters would have been established, and the visual language of the new trilogy as well. He could have even just produced it, and gotten a director for hire like Abrams to come in and take liberties, to a point. To me, this movie feels soulless, like a fan film with a $200 million budget. Feel free to disagree, I'm sure some will.

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 7:47 PM, Rubin Farr said:

It would be more in tone with the previous Six Films

>implying the prequels are in tone with the originals

I don't see how a sub wrapping wouldnt be any quieter than crisp packets that crinkle away maddeningly, so as long as you had the common sense to eat it during the loud bits p, which are reasonably frequent during an action/adventure film. No one has this common sense though do they, hence my never going to a cinema. Another problem with bringing in your own food of this sort, is that it's probably harder for the theatre to clean when it inevitably gets everywhere (you're surreptitiously eating in the dark, salad will spill, sticky filling will escape the wrapping) than say just brushing some popcorn off the seating before the next session. And given the cost cutting and skeleton crew already mentioned, these foods only contribute to the overall dankness of the movie theatre.

  On 12/29/2015 at 7:28 PM, Joyrex said:

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 6:19 PM, unteleportedman said:

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 6:06 PM, Joyrex said:

I personally have not been to one as I think all the sounds of eating, clinking glasses and plates, and silverware would drive me bonkers. I can't stand hearing people rummage around in their popcorn as it is.

 

Lol I've actually smuggled in full subs into movie theaters before. It can be a bit uncomfortable because unwrapping the sub from the paper it's enclosed in can be pretty loud sometimes. That being said, having a sub while watching a movie in a theater is amazing and the ultimate sub experience IMO.

 

If you did this while I was in the same theatre I'd throw my phone at you, unless you did it BEFORE the trailers/movie.

 

Ok I think we are good.

 

When there is a sub involved, that usually means that the movie trip was heavily planned. A typical part of these types of movie plans is getting to the movie theater early, anywhere from 30 mins to an hour prior to the trailers starting. So I am pretty sure I have always opened the sub paper prior to the trailers even starting.

 

Also, regarding food noises in movie theaters in general: I feel like they are inevitable sometimes even if you are trying to avoid making them. Like if you have a really loud plastic candy bag etc., you can try to time it so you start opening it right at a big explosion/loud part in the movie, but the timing is not always perfect. It is definitely a very awkward/uncomfortable experience when you are trying to be quiet with your food in that setting. I think there's been times where I purposely try not to care, and go ahead and open the bag during quiet moments, because seriously, why go through the pain of not being able to eat candy in normal intervals?

 

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 7:47 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Lucas should have directed Episode VII

flol

  On 12/29/2015 at 7:36 AM, delet... said:

Omnimax was where it was at, but it was developed by an australian who owned the patents, and you couldn't retrofit existing cinemas with that screen. Shame though, it was actually immersive.

 

Omnimax was developed by IMAX, which is a Canadian company.

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 6:06 PM, Joyrex said:

It used to be you went to the theatre for the experience - big screen, amazing sound system, etc. - now you can get an as good experience at home, and 3D and LieMax aren't cutting it (especially since the former you can get at home now too) anymore.

 

If you have a screen 2.5 stories high and 5 stories wide in your home theater, can I come and visit? I promise I won't eat during the movie. lol.

 

 

On topic - I really enjoyed the movie. The only real critique I have of it is why use X-wings for a bombing run?

Omnimax rolling loop tech was invented by Ron jones of Brisbane and then developed here, the first screens were here. When looking for him on google and Bing it seems that the broader story has been scrubbed from history apart from the wiki entry as a part of imax. See below for the most non imax biased info I could find on this, on the plaque in the first photo.

 

Cavx.blogspot.com.au/2007/01/omnimax.html

 

I remember in the pre internet days watching interviews with this guy, and seeing documentaries about him developing it and using it in the field and so forth.

Ah it seems we are both correct - Ron Jones (the Australian you mentioned) invented something called the "rolling loop" projector, then IMAX (who bought the patent from Jones) adapted it for the larger size. So it would seem one couldn't exist without the other.

 

http://www.ieee.ca/millennium/imax/imax_birth.html

 

Apologies for snippy tone. On the other hand, yes it is clearly an international comspiracy to deny Australia its rightful claim as the birthplace of Omnimax.

Having been to the cinema to see this twice now I have come up with a business idea, if others would like to join me please send me a PM.

 

Basically it's a cinema that is run like a prison camp. You hand over all your possessions on the way in. When the lights go out keep your trap shut or you will be punished. The only sustenance will be bread and water, which you will be charged for. Loud kids will be exterminated (might need to keep this bit hush hush).

 

One day cinemas will be dead and I will watch a DVD on their grave.

Edited December 29, 2015 by tec

  On 12/29/2015 at 11:06 PM, tec said:

Having been to the cinema to see this twice now I have come up with a business idea, if others would like to join me please send me a PM.

 

Basically it's a cinema that is run like a prison camp. You hand over all your possessions on the way in. When the lights go out keep your trap shut or you will be punished. The only sustenance will be bread and water, which you will be charged for. Loud kids will be exterminated (might need to keep this bit hush hush).

 

One day cinemas will be dead and I will watch a DVD on their grave.

 

PMed.

  On 12/29/2015 at 10:52 PM, chenGOD said:

Ah it seems we are both correct - Ron Jones (the Australian you mentioned) invented something called the "rolling loop" projector, then IMAX (who bought the patent from Jones) adapted it for the larger size. So it would seem one couldn't exist without the other.

 

http://www.ieee.ca/millennium/imax/imax_birth.html

 

Apologies for snippy tone. On the other hand, yes it is clearly an international comspiracy to deny Australia its rightful claim as the birthplace of Omnimax.

Business is not a pretty venture, to crush your enemies, to see then driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. Also, I'm not surprised that Canadians would seek desperately to hang on to anything that they can claim for their own, when so vastly dwarfed, culturally and intellectually by a neighbour, where we just get on, reasonably unmolested on the other side of the world.

Speaking to that being dominated thing, I was disappointed watching some talks being given in Canada that many in the audience when the QandAs came up, had accents indistinguishable from a middle American one. Bit of a shame I thought. Some kids here are getting a slight US twang as well I've noticed, it's frightening.

Just watched it again - it was ace. Don't know what everyone's moaning about, it entertained the pants off me, especially that bit when Poe Dameron took out several tie fighters and stormtroopers and Fin went "THATS ONE HELL OF A PILOT" pewpewpewYEAH! As good as a child's film as it gets basically.

  On 12/29/2015 at 7:47 PM, Rubin Farr said:

LOL, he calls Disney "white slavers", you can see he regrets selling Lucasfilm now. IMO, Lucas should have directed Episode VII, then sold to Disney. It would be more in tone with the previous Six Films, the three major actors were already on board, the new characters would have been established, and the visual language of the new trilogy as well. He could have even just produced it, and gotten a director for hire like Abrams to come in and take liberties, to a point. To me, this movie feels soulless, like a fan film with a $200 million budget. Feel free to disagree, I'm sure some will.

 

 

This motherfucker Lucas....

 

The Star Wars films, his 'children' or alternately his 'ex' as he so passionately refers to them, were whores for him for decades; he literally designed and modified them to be cash cows. The passion he speaks of, speaks with, is highly subject to distrust imo. He's been more a pimp than a father or a loving husband.

 

Not that his cashing in on them negates the possibility that he could also be emotionally attached, but to at every turn do so much to try and eke out every penny from them just makes me not believe his 'pain' or whatever. He's just pissed he's not making the cash from the newest films.

  On 12/29/2015 at 11:29 PM, delet... said:

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 10:52 PM, chenGOD said:

Ah it seems we are both correct - Ron Jones (the Australian you mentioned) invented something called the "rolling loop" projector, then IMAX (who bought the patent from Jones) adapted it for the larger size. So it would seem one couldn't exist without the other.

 

http://www.ieee.ca/millennium/imax/imax_birth.html

 

Apologies for snippy tone. On the other hand, yes it is clearly an international comspiracy to deny Australia its rightful claim as the birthplace of Omnimax.

Business is not a pretty venture, to crush your enemies, to see then driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. Also, I'm not surprised that Canadians would seek desperately to hang on to anything that they can claim for their own, when so vastly dwarfed, culturally and intellectually by a neighbour, where we just get on, reasonably unmolested on the other side of the world.

Speaking to that being dominated thing, I was disappointed watching some talks being given in Canada that many in the audience when the QandAs came up, had accents indistinguishable from a middle American one. Bit of a shame I thought. Some kids here are getting a slight US twang as well I've noticed, it's frightening.

Lol the passive aggressiveness is strong in this one.

  On 12/30/2015 at 12:13 AM, auxien said:

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 7:47 PM, Rubin Farr said:

LOL, he calls Disney "white slavers", you can see he regrets selling Lucasfilm now. IMO, Lucas should have directed Episode VII, then sold to Disney. It would be more in tone with the previous Six Films, the three major actors were already on board, the new characters would have been established, and the visual language of the new trilogy as well. He could have even just produced it, and gotten a director for hire like Abrams to come in and take liberties, to a point. To me, this movie feels soulless, like a fan film with a $200 million budget. Feel free to disagree, I'm sure some will.

 

 

This motherfucker Lucas....

 

The Star Wars films, his 'children' or alternately his 'ex' as he so passionately refers to them, were whores for him for decades; he literally designed and modified them to be cash cows. The passion he speaks of, speaks with, is highly subject to distrust imo. He's been more a pimp than a father or a loving husband.

 

Not that his cashing in on them negates the possibility that he could also be emotionally attached, but to at every turn do so much to try and eke out every penny from them just makes me not believe his 'pain' or whatever. He's just pissed he's not making the cash from the newest films.

 

I for one am pretty pleased his jimmies are rustled

  On 12/30/2015 at 12:26 AM, chenGOD said:

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 11:29 PM, delet... said:

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 10:52 PM, chenGOD said:

Ah it seems we are both correct - Ron Jones (the Australian you mentioned) invented something called the "rolling loop" projector, then IMAX (who bought the patent from Jones) adapted it for the larger size. So it would seem one couldn't exist without the other.

http://www.ieee.ca/millennium/imax/imax_birth.html

 

Apologies for snippy tone. On the other hand, yes it is clearly an international comspiracy to deny Australia its rightful claim as the birthplace of Omnimax.

Business is not a pretty venture, to crush your enemies, to see then driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. Also, I'm not surprised that Canadians would seek desperately to hang on to anything that they can claim for their own, when so vastly dwarfed, culturally and intellectually by a neighbour, where we just get on, reasonably unmolested on the other side of the world.

Speaking to that being dominated thing, I was disappointed watching some talks being given in Canada that many in the audience when the QandAs came up, had accents indistinguishable from a middle American one. Bit of a shame I thought. Some kids here are getting a slight US twang as well I've noticed, it's frightening.

Lol the passive aggressiveness is strong in this one.

Lol, really, sorry braseki if it came out that way, I mean you already apologised over he potential that I may have been slighted, so why would I wank that chain.

Cuz ur a wankstain?

 

Lol it rhymes.

I.e. Only joking.

  On 12/30/2015 at 12:13 AM, auxien said:

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 7:47 PM, Rubin Farr said:

LOL, he calls Disney "white slavers", you can see he regrets selling Lucasfilm now. IMO, Lucas should have directed Episode VII, then sold to Disney. It would be more in tone with the previous Six Films, the three major actors were already on board, the new characters would have been established, and the visual language of the new trilogy as well. He could have even just produced it, and gotten a director for hire like Abrams to come in and take liberties, to a point. To me, this movie feels soulless, like a fan film with a $200 million budget. Feel free to disagree, I'm sure some will.

 

This motherfucker Lucas....

 

The Star Wars films, his 'children' or alternately his 'ex' as he so passionately refers to them, were whores for him for decades; he literally designed and modified them to be cash cows. The passion he speaks of, speaks with, is highly subject to distrust imo. He's been more a pimp than a father or a loving husband.

 

Not that his cashing in on them negates the possibility that he could also be emotionally attached, but to at every turn do so much to try and eke out every penny from them just makes me not believe his 'pain' or whatever. He's just pissed he's not making the cash from the newest films.

omg that interview. looks like he's on the brink of breaking into tears.

and i sort of get it. the prequels were daring new films that were brimming with collaborative efforts and whole new stories. 7 is more/less a remake of a movie he made 40 something years ago. and just about everyone hates the prequels and just about everyone loves the new film.

 

but man. theres just no denying that the prequels are 6 hours of boring, soulless drivel.

Edited December 30, 2015 by bitroast

  On 12/29/2015 at 11:29 PM, westhead said:

Just watched it again - it was ace. Don't know what everyone's moaning about, it entertained the pants off me, especially that bit when Poe Dameron took out several tie fighters and stormtroopers and Fin went "THATS ONE HELL OF A PILOT" pewpewpewYEAH! As good as a child's film as it gets basically.

in that shot that wasn't Poe Dameron tho - I've got it on good authority that this super tight combat ballet was the work of Mary Fucking Poppins herself,

  On 12/29/2015 at 7:47 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Lucas should have directed Episode VII

 

 

That's disrespectful.

  On 12/30/2015 at 2:39 AM, Hail Sagan said:

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 7:47 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Lucas should have directed Episode VII

 

 

That's disrespectful.

 

 

 

i'm flabbergusted that harrison ford managed to NAIL his performance in episode 7.

can you actually imagine if george lucas directed episode 7 ?

 

  On 12/30/2015 at 3:12 AM, bitroast said:

 

  On 12/30/2015 at 2:39 AM, Hail Sagan said:

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 7:47 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Lucas should have directed Episode VII

 

 

That's disrespectful.

 

 

 

can you actually imagine if george lucas directed episode 7 ?

 

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 6:06 PM, Joyrex said:

I rarely go to the movies - too expensive, plus I prefer to watch movies at home and have a setup good enough to not make me miss the theatre experience that much.

 

There seems to be a growing trend here in the States for "dining theatres" where you can watch a movie and get a meal (think pub grub) at the same time, with comfortable seats, etc.

 

I personally have not been to one as I think all the sounds of eating, clinking glasses and plates, and silverware would drive me bonkers. I can't stand hearing people rummage around in their popcorn as it is.

 

 

Alamo Drafthouse specifically has a no-tolerance policy of talking, texting, etc. as well as a policy of not letting people late...it sort of compensates for the noises that occur from them serving food.

 

I can tune out most of that stuff - crisp packets, loud popcorn eating, sipping, but my wife is irked by even the slightest noises from strangers, she can't ignore it whatsoever. That said overall I don't mind at all.

  On 12/30/2015 at 1:47 AM, bitroast said:

 

  On 12/30/2015 at 12:13 AM, auxien said:

 

  On 12/29/2015 at 7:47 PM, Rubin Farr said:

LOL, he calls Disney "white slavers", you can see he regrets selling Lucasfilm now. IMO, Lucas should have directed Episode VII, then sold to Disney. It would be more in tone with the previous Six Films, the three major actors were already on board, the new characters would have been established, and the visual language of the new trilogy as well. He could have even just produced it, and gotten a director for hire like Abrams to come in and take liberties, to a point. To me, this movie feels soulless, like a fan film with a $200 million budget. Feel free to disagree, I'm sure some will.

 

This motherfucker Lucas....

 

The Star Wars films, his 'children' or alternately his 'ex' as he so passionately refers to them, were whores for him for decades; he literally designed and modified them to be cash cows. The passion he speaks of, speaks with, is highly subject to distrust imo. He's been more a pimp than a father or a loving husband.

 

Not that his cashing in on them negates the possibility that he could also be emotionally attached, but to at every turn do so much to try and eke out every penny from them just makes me not believe his 'pain' or whatever. He's just pissed he's not making the cash from the newest films.

omg that interview. looks like he's on the brink of breaking into tears.

and i sort of get it. the prequels were daring new films that were brimming with collaborative efforts and whole new stories. 7 is more/less a remake of a movie he made 40 something years ago. and just about everyone hates the prequels and just about everyone loves the new film.

 

but man. theres just no denying that the prequels are 6 hours of boring, soulless drivel.

 

 

This.

 

Everyone also redirects any defense of Lucas to how much money he's made but that's a bullshit charge imo. Disney is making money off it now, JJ is set and man, didn't Harrison Ford get the biggest cut from Force Awakens? Of course it's steered him for much of his career but I seriously doubt he's torn about selling it for that reason. He's no longer officially part of the franchise as it enters into it's biggest resurgence yet.

 

I loved episode VII but the more and more I reflect on it, it really was quite derivative, embarrassingly so in some parts, and when you compare that to the undertaking of the Prequels 20 years ago I can appreciate his effort, even if those films have aged terribly and are a mess. It was still a massive stab at an entirely different storyline with new characters. TBH I doubt there's never going to be a film that can match the original trilogy with a very detached and/or original storyline. The best EU plots would never appeal to a massive audience. I have hopes 8 and 9 might get close to achieving truly worthwhile developments in the overall storyline (I hope) but I'm skeptical...and they will still likely hinge on Luke for at least one more movie.