How does the World view America these days?

^ but muh RAHTS

Dongald about to speak on it

  On 10/2/2017 at 4:32 PM, Gocab said:

Can we at least agree that a ban on automatic and semi-automatic rifles would be a good idea?

Yes.

It'll never happen in most of America, of course. But it should happen.

  On 10/2/2017 at 4:09 PM, Amen Warrior said:

 

  On 10/2/2017 at 3:41 PM, auxien said:

 

  On 10/2/2017 at 2:30 PM, messiaen said:

i literally cant believe that there are people stupid enough to think that legal guns is a good idea.

Legal guns are a good idea. Highly (HIGHLY) regulated hunting weapons are fine. There'd still be problems, but that's because of the culture around guns, which is really the problem. But that sort of shit will take a very long time to get away from, if it's ever possible. Banning things (drugs, guns, abortions, etc.) doesn't fix the issue. It can often cause even more problems. It's the culture that needs fixing more than anything, and that's not going to be easy, if it happens.

You are mental. Legal guns are obviously not a good idea. Banning them is a great idea. "Hunters" should just get a new hobby, why not try just hiking and camping without bringing along a cannon to murder small furry things with?

 

You vegan bro? Also you know hunting weapons are legal in pretty much any country in the world, right?

  On 10/2/2017 at 4:13 PM, zaphod said:

lol thank god you aren't in charge of any lawmaking in the us

Yes lol, 50+ innocent people murdered and 100s more injured in under 2 minutes for absolutely no reason lol lol

Enjoy your expert lawmakers

  On 10/2/2017 at 3:53 PM, Lada Laika said:

 

  On 10/2/2017 at 2:37 PM, eugene said:

if the concert attendees had shoulder-fired, laser guided, missile launchers none of that would happen and they could swiftly deal with the attacker shooting at them from above.

fucking lol

 

also the "warmest condolences" tweet made me vomit

 

finally called it an act of evil...you know he like said something even W would of immediately stated as a reptilian reflex like any other human being with basic empathy

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/opinion/mass-shooting-vegas.html

We don’t need to simply acquiesce to this kind of slaughter. 

As soon he started spouting bible verses I shut it off. 

Make all of them illegal

Ffs

I agree, but there's no way that's going to happen in the US

you could never round up all the guns in America. Ever. 

It's weird when think about going to Europe my first thoughts are, will I get run over by a truck. will acid get thrown in my face, will I get stabbed. 

I guess guns ae the devil I know. 

  On 10/2/2017 at 5:59 PM, olo said:

 

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For several years, he appeared to live in Mesquite, Tex. 

 

 

This makes me wonder if he flirted with militias. Not that everyone in Texas is into them, but there's a fair amount of them (and groups like them) out there. Retired, aging white male with an interest in guns. 

I have to admit I find it hard not to want to reason out the whys in situations like this. The media does need to stop plastering the name and face of the perpetrators constantly, I'm a firm believer that the fame of it is a contributor to the mass shootings, but my (and everyone else's) interest in knowing who this person is and why they did what they did is not helping. 

I can't even watch Trump speak for 30 seconds without getting queasy. He's that unbearable.

Needless to say, very fucked up and tragic situation all around.

  On 10/2/2017 at 6:28 PM, marf said:

you could never round up all the guns in America. Ever. 

100% truth. Literally impossible. Even a buyback program like in Australia would never work here. 

it's not even comparable to australia because their population is less than 10 percent of the united states. there might be a solution in banning semi auto weapons but even then, the rate of gun ownership is so high in the us that it's literally going to be impossible to do. not to mention the gun culture here is not going away. 

  On 10/2/2017 at 6:28 PM, marf said:

It's weird when think about going to Europe my first thoughts are, will I get run over by a truck. will acid get thrown in my face, will I get stabbed.

That's your first thought about going to Europe? wtf

to be fair, Im scared of everything

  On 10/2/2017 at 6:34 PM, auxien said:

 

  On 10/2/2017 at 5:59 PM, olo said:

 

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For several years, he appeared to live in Mesquite, Tex. 

 

 

This makes me wonder if he flirted with militias. Not that everyone in Texas is into them, but there's a fair amount of them (and groups like them) out there. Retired, aging white male with an interest in guns. 

 

I have to admit I find it hard not to want to reason out the whys in situations like this. The media does need to stop plastering the name and face of the perpetrators constantly, I'm a firm believer that the fame of it is a contributor to the mass shootings, but my (and everyone else's) interest in knowing who this person is and why they did what they did is not helping. 

 

They are becoming a lot more normalized too. Even very right-wing gun nuts were hesitant to associate themselves with such groups back in the mid-90s and most "militia" were backwood weirdos. Now you have them essentially lobbying publicly and plastering stickers on their cars as they drive to their suburban homes.

  On 10/2/2017 at 6:37 PM, auxien said:

 

  On 10/2/2017 at 6:28 PM, marf said:

you could never round up all the guns in America. Ever. 

100% truth. Literally impossible. Even a buyback program like in Australia would never work here. 

 

we're a unique case in history for sure. still, something can and should be done: keep in mind the GOP is literally doing all it can to deregulate gun ownership to the point where anyone could buy any gun and carry it in public without any backlash, including questioning from police

hell I know people who own AR-15s and other crazy military grade rifles, shot them for fun in rural Texas, and are reasonable people who would not dare flaunt that shit in public. do they deserve to be affected? probably not in principle but at this point we all need to pay a price to cut down on deaths. I don't want friends, family, and loved ones living in fear of sociopaths mowing down people in public in the name of defending some vague, bullshit "interpretation" of a antiquated line of the Bill of Rights

apparently the shooter had a thing like this.. turns your semi auto into a little gatling gun... gun nerds were talking about it on reddit last night.. because it's not a fully automatic rifle.. not a machine gun.. i didn't notice but they said because you can hear the fire speeding up and slowing down.. it's not consistent.. so he had some kind of mod to the trigger to make it fire faster.. 

wtf mericuh.. who needs this?  for hunting??? 

keep in mind that last year the republicans voted to make it easier for people w/mental illnesses to get firearms. 

  On 10/2/2017 at 10:27 PM, ignatius said:

 

keep in mind that last year the republicans voted to make it easier for people w/mental illnesses to get firearms. 

 

US, just build that f-ing wall around your beloved country and stop bothering the rest of the world. and keep your sugary/fat/salty fastfood there as well. kthxbye

it's not personal

b-b-b-b-but......biscuits n sausage gravy

meanwhile in various hotspots around the world, larger numbers of folks are continually slaughtered, day in day out, b-b-b-b-b-but....

biscuits n gravy

  On 10/2/2017 at 10:41 PM, goDel said:

 

  On 10/2/2017 at 10:27 PM, ignatius said:

 

keep in mind that last year the republicans voted to make it easier for people w/mental illnesses to get firearms. 

 

 

US, just build that f-ing wall around your beloved country and stop bothering the rest of the world. and keep your sugary/fat/salty fastfood there as well. kthxbye

 

it's not personal

 

we could just divide the country.. put a wall between the two halves. i'd be ok w/that.  but good luck stopping mcdonald's and walmart etc.. :(

  On 10/2/2017 at 10:52 PM, cwmbrancity said:

b-b-b-b-but......biscuits n sausage gravy

 

meanwhile in various hotspots around the world, larger numbers of folks are continually slaughtered, day in day out, b-b-b-b-b-but....

 

biscuits n gravy

now now no need to get nasty, our media is the widest covering so naturally everyone just hears about it more, doesnt mean we as people think our deaths are more important than anyone elses. just like your infrastructure/govt/administration/history didnt define you as citizens and your culture is the same way our backwards as shit shouldnt either. yes, we're fat greasy americans, but there are fat greasy british ppl too :D  hating on america cuz its fashionable is like a thirteen year old girl hating on her favorite emo band cuz they appeared in a hot topic ad. get over it. lives are lives. and why talk like that when innocents have died and the nation is mourning. i hate trump and mcdonalds and walmart and backwards ass hillbillys too, doesnt mean we cant have a day of mourning for the largest shooting spree in modern us history. i have friends who are still waiting to hear from loved ones and friends of friends who were shot, so fuck off.

ps this was for you and godel btw, i know everyone likes to jump in on the pissing contest on who can be more howard zinn / noam chomsky when the time calls for it. 

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amazing that mods that use recoil to create automatic weapons are legal. holy shit, Ingenious too