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When he purchased it is almost Irrelevant, you don’t need me linking up searches to find his inherited net worth. 

Current opposition needs an assassin. Corbyn def wasn’t that, he voted Leave & managed to make this entire shit show even worse than any of us could’ve envisaged a few years ago. Hapless cunt. I was even forced to vote Labour (1st time in my life) because the Tories were polling close to 40% in our home constituency.

Corbyn’s moment was 2017, a temporal threshold that couldn’t hold in the face of populist realpolitik. Labour needs to go on a retreat, mediate for lengthy periods in calm, quiet peace & get a fkn grip.

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So after this cunt had delivered the most disastrous election for Labour since the days the dinosaurs were roaming the Earth. I observed him in Parliament on BBC (when he should of done the decent and honourable thing and fucked off)

He gets up and starts ranting about Boris ploughing ahead with his policies and exclaiming that his Labour party will be scrutinizing all their promises.

This is the guy who promised a four day working week with a massive pay rise, free broadband for every house, free childcare, no student fees and probably a billion, squillion pounds into the NHS. Trust me I work with some of the biggest lefties on Earth (but they have a grain of common sense). They all think he's a right fucking wanker. Hahah.

What a cunt this man is. His biggest deluded day on Planet Earth must of been that day at Glastonbury. He must of thought I really am the king! 

Back in the real world everyone thinks you're a total cunt.

Now fetch my 12 bird roast and the golden jug of sauce you peasant. And if I find any cat hair in it I'll feed you to the pike in my moat.

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the world is withdrawing and pulling up drawbridges (well some of it is) as a method of dealing with the almost certain environmental, social and humanitarian disaster that is on the way in the next few decades. UK's gone the Children of Men route and it really wouldn't surprise me if we built a big wall around the island at some point. seriously... US is going the same route, expect Trump to win another term.

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  On 12/23/2019 at 4:26 PM, Soloman Tump said:

But it's ok! Ed Milliband has been called up to join the Labour rebuild taskforce!

 

this is the worrying thing. it's happened three times in a row - in 2015 you had old women in the street on the news who said they would never vote for ed milliband because "he's a wimp". labour have a serious problem with leadership and presentation. they've now had two, solid opportunities to clean themselves up and they have thoroughly fucked themselves each a piece.

fucking state of labour. three quid well spent my arse.

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  On 12/24/2019 at 8:05 PM, caze said:

lol @ thinking Corbyn is a social democrat

I have no clue. In my experience those who label themselves as democratic socialists are in fact social democrats. And those who label themselves as social democrats are in-the-closet conservatives/centrists. But I don't know Corbyn well enough

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Corbyn is an unreconstructed Marxist, he was forced to keep his worst ideas under wraps for fear of upsetting the electorate too much (though obviously not enough to prevent a rather embarrassing election), but even still they managed to come up with the most radical manifesto in recent times (in fact it was in many ways more radical than the Labour policies of the 70s, when the party was similarly infected with Marxist entryists). In the modern parlance he's definitely more democratic socialist than social democrat, unlike Bernie Sanders who says he's the former but is really the latter. His favoured candidate to take over the Labour leadership just appointed a literal Stalinist as her campaign manager, and Corbyn's main speechwriter/ideas man - Seumas Milne - was also a Stalinist, now just a Stalinist apologist.

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'Why the Working Class is Abandoning the Left' by umair haque

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Some interesting points in there, especially about the obsessions of parts of the left proving massively unpopular to the population as a whole.

He does generalise about the 'working class' a bit much though (admittedly when I'm out with the proles everyone's obsessed with the smash film 'Left Behind', he nailed it there.)

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  On 12/25/2019 at 4:40 PM, caze said:

lol. utterly delusional.

the left never learns anything.

Merry Christmas caze you silly arse x

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Whooooo-Hooooooo

Mummy and daddy all vote Tory, but I'm a total over privileged, upper middle class cunt and I fancy being a rebel. So I will suck this mans cock.

 

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i think you might be generalising quite a lot there beer badger. young people, especially first time voters always tend to favour the left. and i can understand why, often you're skint when you're young, and frustrated with the way the world works etc. it all seems (and generally is) very unfair.

 

socialist and far leftist policies just sound so good in principle - free stuff, cheaper everything, easier access to housing and wealth generally. of course younger people vote for that.

 

it's not until you get to your mid-thirties and forties that you realise a lot of the socialist ideals and policies are unlikely to work, or will in fact now make you poorer (now you've been working for a few decades, probably own a house, maybe have some savings or shares etc.) and you don't want to be much poorer coz you've spent the last 20 years getting un-poor and finally feel you're getting somewhere.

 

so you vote tory, or if you're a bit more pragmatic like me, try going somewhere down the middle and vote lib dem.

 

 

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  On 12/26/2019 at 12:21 AM, BCM said:

i think you might be generalising quite a lot there beer badger. young people, especially first time voters always tend to favour the left. and i can understand why, often you're skint when you're young, and frustrated with the way the world works etc. it all seems (and generally is) very unfair.

 

socialist and far leftist policies just sound so good in principle - free stuff, cheaper everything, easier access to housing and wealth generally. of course younger people vote for that.

 

it's not until you get to your mid-thirties and forties that you realise a lot of the socialist ideals and policies are unlikely to work, or will in fact now make you poorer (now you've been working for a few decades, probably own a house, maybe have some savings or shares etc.) and you don't want to be much poorer coz you've spent the last 20 years getting un-poor and finally feel you're getting somewhere.

 

so you vote tory, or if you're a bit more pragmatic like me, try going somewhere down the middle and vote lib dem.

 

 

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Ooof, I know so many old leftists, a lot of them are successful economically. They didn't sell their souls to the conservatives (who in reality don't cause the general public to become wealthier, a common misconception and a successful self-marketing of theirs). And if the British Lib Dems are anything like the German FDP (self titled liberals who are in fact neoliberals), then you make a bad choice. Because 90% of the people would be worse off if all those market liberal ideas the so-called liberals propose actually get implemented: No minimum wage, gradually replacing a tax-financed pension system with a private pension scheme based on private investments into stocks, cutback of employment protection, fewer worker's rights (to give companies more "freedom", they're liberals after all, lol), privatise everything that should be a common good and make it so pricey that not everyone can afford it and therefore split the society even further and create a fertile soil for right-wing populists, and so on. Great

Real (social) liberals are welcome, though. But those phoney assholes that only want to promote deregulation of markets can fuck off. Only very few profit from their policies, no matter if old or young. Unfortunately they often utilise some social liberal ideas to catch voters, but their agenda is a different one

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the lib dems over here are not as bad as the above FDP example (imo) and have always seemed to me like an acceptable middle ground between conservative and labour, who look at policy making pragmatically and can take ideas from both the left and right that might actually work. not so idealistic, more practical and sensible. just my view...

 

of course there will always be older lefties and socialists and young people who love the tories - lots of shades of grey here, but generally speaking i'd stand by my assertions.

 

 

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  On 12/26/2019 at 12:59 AM, BCM said:

the lib dems over here are not as bad as the above FDP example (imo) and have always seemed to me like an acceptable middle ground between conservative and labour, who look at policy making pragmatically and can take ideas from both the left and right that might actually work. not so idealistic, more practical and sensible. just my view...

 

of course there will always be older lefties and socialists and young people who love the tories - lots of shades of grey here, but generally speaking i'd stand by my assertions.

 

 

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I often hear this cheesy saying: if you aren't a socialist when you're young you have no heart and if you are still a socialist when you're old you have no mind. I still doubt if it's true but it's a common conception.

Well yes, maybe as a German I'm traumatised by our liberals who are complete fuck-ups. Here, the green party takes on the role of a social liberal party and that's partly why they have become so successful in the past months / years (apart from green policies becoming more popular these days). But this is a thread about Corbyn and I don't want to derail it, sorry

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Its worth noting that Labour were the most popular party with 18-49 year olds. 

Also, Corbyn's policies are generally very popular in the UK. I haven't got the numbers to hand but I think stuff like nationalisation, wealth tax etc are all in the mid 60s. that was why he did so well in 2017.

This time round, brexit, bad messaging, lacklustre campaign, personal failings and/or the longstanding and vociferously ruthless media smear campaign all created the worst case scenario for Corbyn.

But the right knows that their policies are unpopular and demography is against them, which is why they depend so much on lies, media bias and dominance, and outright electoral manipulation (coming soon to the UK). We see the exact same strategies and patterns with the GOP. Fundamentally - if they can't win fairly they will ensure that there is no fairness.

 

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So, what happened to merry Christmas? Perhaps your vegan xmas meal wasn't pushing your nostalgic buttons like the old rabbit your grandpa shot?

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  On 12/26/2019 at 10:26 AM, darreichungsform said:

When the family is asleep my fingers go rat-tat-ta-tat

That sounds a little morbid, coming from a German.

 

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