The new Aphex's, squarepushers etc

  On 9/20/2016 at 3:33 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Think he's Mark Fell's son?

He is, ye

Holly Herndon, Ben Frost, Arca, OPN...

Aphex, SP and Autechre introduced me to electronic music, so I know no other artists today are going to have the same impact for me, but there are reasons for that which are no reflection on the talent or ingenuity of newer artists.  

eod

Maybe its not just the talent but the mindset from that era that creates that extraordinary, electronic music? I'm sure the young whippersnappers are just as talented as the Old Guard but perhaps they don't seem to have a certain way of looking at the world like Aphex, BOC, Spusher and Ae?

More freedom and mystery back in the day, nowadays everything is instantly being viewed and scrutinized on the net. Burial had the best thing going, keeping himself and his music as obscure as possible.

CN

  On 9/20/2016 at 11:37 AM, keanu reeves said:

i think most people here will agree that tim hecker is equal to or superior to aphex.

you are a really funny guy man wow top notch meme

  On 9/20/2016 at 7:18 PM, Brisbot said:

I honestly think WHY Aphex is better than other artists is because of the reinvention. There's aphex for any mood. I have to be in a certain mood to listen to SP.. or Tim Hecker.. or Clark.. or Wisp, etc. Even though each of these artists are on the same level skillwise in their respective styles, imho.

Nah you're just too far up his arse, like everyone in the aphex sub. You've lost perspective.

Hiele is pretty good :

From a rephlexy torch-carrying IDM elitist perspective:

gen 00 (88-92): B12, LFO, Stakker, Balil, etc.

1st gen (early and mid 90s): Aphex, Squarepusher, Goon, Jega, Mu-ziq, Vibert, Cylob...

2nd gen (late 90s, early 2000s): Bogdan Raczynski, Ceephax, Venetian Snares, Aleksi Perala, Bochum Welt, DMX Krew, Leila, D'Arcangelo...

3rd gen (mid and late 2000s): EOD, Wisp, Space Dimension Controller, Automatic Tasty, Jodey Kendrick, Kettel...

Current gen (2010s): Monolith, Trackermatte, 4rd, Heorge Garrison, Beatwife, pilotredsun, Owen Gilbride, Skytree, Beathaven, Zephyr Nova...

And I know I am missing lots of good WATMM 3rd and 4th gen folks but whatever (th'idiot, fah, impakt, braintree, fluorescent grey, bendish, modey, face culler, fxbip, kristopher j bernard, splitradix, antape, perezvon, etc.)

BUT broadening out from that, I generally agree with others, OPN is a good equivalent, Actress definitely has their own thing...

And when you are bored with IDM, there are other idiosyncratic and genre defining geniuses elsewhere on the ever-expanding music tree: DJ Premier for jazzy hip hop beats, John Tejada for deep techno, Arthur Russel for being weird and singing like a muppet, V/VM for silly noise and nostalgic ambient, Mark McGuire for beautiful guitar ambient, Burial for dusty dubstep, DJ Rashad & DJ Spinn for lush footwork, Terry Riley for microtonal improvisations, Larry Heard for exploratory house, etc. etc.

  On 9/20/2016 at 3:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Really impressed with Rian Treanor so far. He even looks Aphexy.

 

wow this is great !

agreed with whoever said : Actress, Arca and oPn. 

I'd add M.E.S.H., Lee Gamble, Huerco S.

I think until the current 'top' artists are long gone/retired/dead, you're not going to really be able to say who the next [insert 'top' artist name here] is.

Or, like music in the past, there may never be another Aphex/Squarepusher/BOC/Autechre.

Who was the next Beethoven? Brahms? Mozart? Wagner?

I really can't think of any who jump out, and honestly, some have compared Aphex to those notables.

Will there ever be another Michael Jackson? Prince? David Bowie?

Will there ever be another band like the Beatles?

I looked at this thread now I have cancer. Cool thanks.

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I think until the current 'top' artists are long gone/retired/dead, you're not going to really be able to say who the next [insert 'top' artist name here] is.

Yeah, I think it also takes perspective and time. I've heard that aphex wasn't as revered back in the 90s.

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Will there ever be another band like the Beatles?

So many bands have been named the 'new' beatles. I've seen an interview with radiohead from the 90s where the interviewer called them The Beatles # 2. Also seen an interview from a few years back where Grizzly Bear was called The New Radiohead.. while radiohead are still a thing O.o. 

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Or, like music in the past, there may never be another Aphex/Squarepusher/BOC/Autechre.

Another issue would be that it's harder to make an impact in the music scene these days. You can have people on the same or even higher skill level as aphex, SP, BOC, AE, but these 4 originally mapped the territory.  It would be well harder to be the 'next' one of these.

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Nah you're just too far up his arse, like everyone in the aphex sub. You've lost perspective.

you're treating this way too seriously. 

(^:

 /posts in thread cause it's hot, not cause he wants to add anything to the discussion. Well there is this, maybe the kids aren't interested in nor were brought sonically up by the musical environment that spawned the artists that this thread is about so you will be vainly waiting a long time for the 'next' so and so. When complex beats makes a comeback, there will be a concerted and competitive effort by the kiddies and we will get some superlative submissions to the canon. The second part is harder though, you can't recreate the historical conditions that incubated the minds of those people you are hoping will now, 20 years later, have protégées. All that marination in funk and jazz and hip hop and new wave and wanting to push the equipment and the sounds somewhere unheard before, it's not there. So there's a couple of things to consider. Personally there isn't much that intrests me going on, well besides my own thing, heh, i do discover a nice track here or there from many eras including the current one, the ones that stick with me tend to be back from the source material from some genre that i'm mining for nuggets. But my way of viewing music is different from some kid's, i have heard a vast amount of it, and may poo poo a genre in it's infancy that could in time give birth to something beautiful. hrmm, feeling like if i keep going, we're going on a merry tangential rap to nowhere.

 peace'ee peace.

dj paul

  On 9/21/2016 at 12:08 AM, DorkingtonPugsly said:

dj paul

DJ Paul Vol 3 really is pretty great though

  On 9/20/2016 at 9:35 PM, ganus said:

From a rephlexy torch-carrying IDM elitist perspective:

 

gen 00 (88-92): B12, LFO, Stakker, Balil, etc.

 

1st gen (early and mid 90s): Aphex, Squarepusher, Goon, Jega, Mu-ziq, Vibert, Cylob...

 

2nd gen (late 90s, early 2000s): Bogdan Raczynski, Ceephax, Venetian Snares, Aleksi Perala, Bochum Welt, DMX Krew, Leila, D'Arcangelo...

 

3rd gen (mid and late 2000s): EOD, Wisp, Space Dimension Controller, Automatic Tasty, Jodey Kendrick, Kettel...

 

Current gen (2010s): Monolith, Trackermatte, 4rd, Heorge Garrison, Beatwife, pilotredsun, Owen Gilbride, Skytree, Beathaven, Zephyr Nova...

 

And I know I am missing lots of good WATMM 3rd and 4th gen folks but whatever (th'idiot, fah, impakt, braintree, fluorescent grey, bendish, modey, face culler, fxbip, kristopher j bernard, splitradix, antape, perezvon, etc.)

 

BUT broadening out from that, I generally agree with others, OPN is a good equivalent, Actress definitely has their own thing...

 

And when you are bored with IDM, there are other idiosyncratic and genre defining geniuses elsewhere on the ever-expanding music tree: DJ Premier for jazzy hip hop beats, John Tejada for deep techno, Arthur Russel for being weird and singing like a muppet, V/VM for silly noise and nostalgic ambient, Mark McGuire for beautiful guitar ambient, Burial for dusty dubstep, DJ Rashad & DJ Spinn for lush footwork, Terry Riley for microtonal improvisations, Larry Heard for exploratory house, etc. etc.

lush post

  On 9/20/2016 at 9:55 PM, lamourfou said:

agreed with whoever said : Actress, Arca and oPn. 

I'd add M.E.S.H., Lee Gamble, Huerco S.

I'd second Machinedrum and Burial as well

I'd also add:

Flying Lotus

VHS Head

Tobacco / Black Moth Super Rainbow

Kuedo / Vex'd

Ramona Andra Xavier (Vekroid + shitload of early good vaporwave aliases)

Ultrademon and 1991 but both those projects seem kaput

Pop music bonus: M83, Washed Out, Grimes 

  On 9/20/2016 at 11:35 AM, phudoshin said:

As I gear up for the aul faves in Texas's Dayfornight festival

Like many other Aphex Twin / Squarepusher fans I am going as well. Here's who I am also excited for:

Oneohtrix Point Never 

S U R V I V E - I think they have some touring members from various bands that are on the label Holodeck Records, including a member who plays for Thousand Foot Whale Claw which is fucking badass live - they play epic drone synth jams. I would expect the SURVIVE show to be pretty damn good.

Tobacco

Bjork (she's worked with some great producers recently along with the late Mark Bell)

Butthole Surfers

Jesus and Mary Chain

Washed Out

Arca

John Carpenter

Lightning Bolt

Matmos

Chelsea Wolfe

Nothing

Sophie

Unknown Mortal Orchestra

Run The Jewels

Blonde Redhead

RZA

Blood Orange

Lower Dens

Kamasi Washington

On the fence even though I like the artist:

Thundercat - walked by his set at FYF years ago and it was stoned ass jazz noodling ala spinal tap mark II.

Ariel Pink - he's done a lot of great and wildly varied music over the years (a bit like Frank Zappa back in the day), like hauntology-esque rock/pop music, very much in the vein of James Ferraro, Hype Williams, Memoryhouse/Toro Y Moi, Broadcast and other Hypnagogic pop. But I think the live show could very well be iffy or poor, there's footage of him at Coachella that's hilariously underwhelming.

Artists I'm likely skipping:

Travis Scott - not bad but from what I've heard pretty much average trap beat hip-hop

ODEZSA - not terrible but sounds like every stereotypical pristen chillout beat artist who license songs for smartphone adverts

Kaskade - deadmau5-esque EDM...if this was 10 years ago he'd be the DJ Tiesto equivalent

Threw together a little playlist in the meantime as I check out some of the ones on the bottom. There's still a fair amount of artists on that line up I don't know so well myself, I think a few are literally just coming up.

For what it's worth, I think Siriusmo has one of the most original sounds of the last ten years. It's like cartoon dance music, and though he goes through a few different styles, it always sounds like him. The production is on point and it's always entertaining.

Hey thx ganus :)

I'm liking how this thread is 90% warp records artists

Anyone BUT OPN

  On 9/22/2016 at 6:42 AM, bitroast said:

I'm liking how this thread is 90% warp records artists