AI - The artificial intelligence thread

  On 1/10/2025 at 12:58 PM, dr b0rk said:

even this, is it really true?

basically all the fucking stuff we surround ourselves with can be seen as some stunted attempt to fix some problems caused by some other, earlier iterations of stuff that was also used to solve problems but failed.

every solution creates more challenges, but the complexity seems to increase. Issues become ever more abstract.

like, you can tap on a piece of glass a few times, some “numbers” will go up and down, and you find yourself in a aluminium tube in the air on the way to the other side of the planet if you like, and it’s ridiculously easy. Amazing! But this clearly comes with costs that aren’t immediate and tangible. We still are the same emotionally stupid primates as we were 50000 years ago and everybody dies.

30 years ago, clearly, we did not have enough “online”. Now everyone has a frigging supercomputer in their pocket, we are all networked, you have access to all the information you can imagine and connect to most people on the planet instantly (using chatroulette) - and what did it solve *really*? Seems like all of this backfired massively, as right now the world looks like it could tip over into some barbaric dystopia. It’s almost like we can’t handle our own “progress”.

The complexity that has been created, especially through tech, is just even more of a clusterfuck than before. Tricky to untangle.

 

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A lot of these sound like solutions in search of a problem.

  On 1/10/2025 at 12:58 PM, dr b0rk said:

even this, is it really true?

basically all the fucking stuff we surround ourselves with can be seen as some stunted attempt to fix some problems caused by some other, earlier iterations of stuff that was also used to solve problems but failed.

every solution creates more challenges, but the complexity seems to increase. Issues become ever more abstract.

like, you can tap on a piece of glass a few times, some “numbers” will go up and down, and you find yourself in a aluminium tube in the air on the way to the other side of the planet if you like, and it’s ridiculously easy. Amazing! But this clearly comes with costs that aren’t immediate and tangible. We still are the same emotionally stupid primates as we were 50000 years ago and everybody dies.

30 years ago, clearly, we did not have enough “online”. Now everyone has a frigging supercomputer in their pocket, we are all networked, you have access to all the information you can imagine and connect to most people on the planet instantly (using chatroulette) - and what did it solve *really*? Seems like all of this backfired massively, as right now the world looks like it could tip over into some barbaric dystopia. It’s almost like we can’t handle our own “progress”.

The complexity that has been created, especially through tech, is just even more of a clusterfuck than before. Tricky to untangle.

 

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the internet was really just fine until social media happened right? I mean.. seemed like it was useful and fun before it became an engagement farm that runs on outrage. 

now, Ai even trying to finish words as I type them is getting things wrong and sometimes spits out a word or phrase from its ass and i have to take time to delete it and correct it like i just did when typing this sentence. 

if we could do all the useful things the internet offers w/o the brain melting outrage farms known as social media platforms then we might be ok.. if only there was a way... no no.. there's no way to unring the bell at this point and we just have to figure out how to plow through w/o killing each other over absolute bullshit posted by trolls. 

but yeah.. internet broke a lot of brains and 'content' seems to be the dominant media consumption preference of the masses who, at least here in america, are too stupid to know what's happening. 

  On 1/10/2025 at 12:58 PM, dr b0rk said:

even this, is it really true?

Yes I think so and as much as I dislike many aspects of capitalism, the market would take care of most tech that wasn't useful or short-term life improving for users.

I get your meta argument, and it's good to be mindful, but continuing down that road I feel leads to more inaction than action which is worse IMHO.

  On 1/10/2025 at 6:43 PM, EdamAnchorman said:

the market would take care of most tech that wasn't useful or short-term life improving for users.

maybe.. eventually.. but it would have to do this repeatedly forever. it's too slow for this. so much waste is created making things that are useless but consumed then thrown out. a company making electric knives or whatever new must have thing has been going on since the surplus era started selling housewives on the "modern home" and all the gadgets they need. 

so, while i agree that the market does sometimes work as it should it often enforces the consumption of all the absolute crap that people think they need they got by w/o just fine for their entire lives.. but someone they know bought a towel warmer for their bathroom so now they are sold on it and can't wait to order one from amazon for $59 or whatever. 

a lot of consumption across all sectors is basically working the same way fast fashion works. just look at temu. absolute crap that doesn't work half the time that people buy because it's cheap because they think they need to have it, are somehow satisfied by getting a 'good deal' and have no other way to spend their time but shopping on line then talking about those things on line w/o other people who also have no hobbies or interestes and blah blah blah... dopamine hits

Since there is a loneliness epidemic, and lonely people watch a lot of TV, I was expecting manufacturers to incorporate Ai friends into new TVs, since some people talk to their TV anyways. Not sure what these features really bring to the table, another smart remote, I’m guessing Ai wallpaper, upscaling and refresh rates? 

  On 1/11/2025 at 2:51 PM, Rubin Farr said:

Since there is a loneliness epidemic, and lonely people watch a lot of TV, I was expecting manufacturers to incorporate Ai friends into new TVs, since some people talk to their TV anyways. Not sure what these features really bring to the table, another smart remote, I’m guessing Ai wallpaper, upscaling and refresh rates? 

 

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i think i'm gonna go retro and start smoking crack. just cook up the mix in my kitchen like they used to do in the old days. 

they need to make the new TVs bullet proof because a lot of old american curmudgeons are gonna unload their 9mm into these fucking things. 

A French woman who was conned out of €830,000 (£700,000; $850,000) by scammers posing as actor Brad Pitt has faced a huge wave of mockery, leading French broadcaster TF1 to withdraw a programme about her.

She has since told a popular French YouTube show that she was not "crazy or a moron": "I just got played, I admit it, and that's why I came forward, because I am not the only one."

A representative for Pitt told US outlet Entertainment Weekly that it was "awful that scammers take advantage of fans' strong connection with celebrities" and that people shouldn't respond to unsolicited online outreach "especially from actors who have no social media presence."

Hundreds of social media users mocked Anne, who the programme said had lost her life's savings and tried to take her own life three times since the scam came to light.

Netflix France put out a post on X advertising "four films with Brad Pitt (for real)", while, in a now-deleted post, Toulouse FC said: "Hi Anne, Brad told us he would be at the stadium on Wednesday... and you?"

The club has since apologised (sic) for the post.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgnz8rw1xgo

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President-elect Trump launched his own cryptocurrency overnight and swiftly appeared to make more than $25 billion on paper for himself and his companies.

The meme website says 80% of the supply is held by Trump Organization affiliate CIC Digital, and a CIC co-owned entity called Fight Fight Fight LLC. ("Fight fight fight" is what Trump said after being shot at a rally in July.)

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https://www.axios.com/2025/01/18/trump-meme-coin-25-billion

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https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113846888132979151

https://gettrumpmemes.com/

^^^^ UPDATE:

The market reacted instantaneously. In the hours after launching, $TRUMP coin reached a market cap of $13.6 billion, with its fully diluted valuation soaring to roughly $67.6 billion. Then, at 3:05 PM ET on January 19, 2025, less than 48 hours after launch, the coin began a steep decline.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/beccabratcher/2025/01/19/trump-coin-sparks-fury-as-industry-grapples-with-pump-and-dump-dread/

  On 1/21/2025 at 8:36 AM, o00o said:

 

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i've had it turned off because it's still beta and i don't want that shit.. but it's tried to get me to install it.. gets the little red 1 popping up in the system settings saying "ready for apple intelligence!"  like no.. fuck off. 

Well, these AI tools are wonderful. They turn my broken English to something that looks like corporate communication, no matter what's the subject. It's funny that it's relatively easy to spot AI generated text because it looks exactly like a non-human wrote it.

Let's put that through the AI grinder:

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These AI tools are remarkable. They transform my broken English into polished corporate communication, regardless of the subject. Ironically, it's often quite easy to identify AI-generated text because it unmistakably bears the hallmarks of non-human authorship.

Its adding pretty much nothing to the user experience besides a smiley creator that can be coded in 2 days

the only thing I cared for was a smarter Siri which still feels so half baked even tho they gave you the option to use ChatGPT but every conversation evaporates into thin air as there is no history or memory stored on the device so its a much better experience to use the actual ChatGPT app 

I guess they just had a checklist by the investors what features should have ai and rushed these out pretty quickly to not look so foolish in comparison to microsoft. its quite embarrassing for them to see them running after the ball microsoft played 

  On 1/21/2025 at 9:55 AM, o00o said:

Its adding pretty much nothing to the user experience besides a smiley creator that can be coded in 2 days

the only thing I cared for was a smarter Siri which still feels so half baked even tho they gave you the option to use ChatGPT but every conversation evaporates into thin air as there is no history or memory stored on the device so its a much better experience to use the actual ChatGPT app 

I guess they just had a checklist by the investors what features should have ai and rushed these out pretty quickly to not look so foolish in comparison to microsoft. its quite embarrassing for them to see them running after the ball microsoft played 

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yea this is some lame shit. Tbh their privacy cloud compute angle is commendable, but will they be able to implement anything good with it, before the AI buzz fizzle out completely? Them better hurry, because their current models really suck.

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Over the past two years, the Central Intelligence Agency has developed a tool that allows analysts to talk to virtual versions of foreign presidents and prime ministers, who answer back.

https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2025/01/20/cias-chatbot-stands-in-for-world-leaders
 

Via Reddit 

  On 1/21/2025 at 12:31 PM, o00o said:

 

Via Reddit 

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Sounds pretty intelligent to me. Would do exactly the same. 
 

*sets alarm at 7pm

disclaimer: please don’t try this at home

  On 1/20/2025 at 1:07 AM, Nebraska said:

^^^^ UPDATE:

The market reacted instantaneously. In the hours after launching, $TRUMP coin reached a market cap of $13.6 billion, with its fully diluted valuation soaring to roughly $67.6 billion. Then, at 3:05 PM ET on January 19, 2025, less than 48 hours after launch, the coin began a steep decline.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/beccabratcher/2025/01/19/trump-coin-sparks-fury-as-industry-grapples-with-pump-and-dump-dread/

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new update:

Just hours after he delivered an impassioned benediction at President Donald Trump’s inauguration, Reverend Lorenzo Sewell announced the launch of his own crypto token dubbed $Lorenzo.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-inauguration-pastor-immediately-launches-crypto-token/

“I need you to do me a favor right now, I want you to be able to see politics become manifest, not just in the way where we’re praying over political gatherings, but we’re seeing us become the hands and the feet of the Lord Jesus Christ. I need you to do me a favor and go and get that coin in order for us to accomplish the vision that God has called us to do in our Earth, I give God glory for what he has done, but we know that King’s dream can only be fulfilled if we acknowledge that people are living in a nightmare.”

Jan 21 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump is due to announce private sector investment of up to $500 billion to fund artificial intelligence infrastructure on Tuesday, two sources told Reuters.

OpenAI, SoftBank (9984.T), opens new tab and Oracle (ORCL.N), opens new tab plan a Texas-based joint venture called Stargate, and have committed $100 billion initially and then up to $500 billion into Stargate over the next four years, the sources said.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/trump-announce-private-sector-ai-infrastructure-investment-cbs-reports-2025-01-21/

i really do not understand what they can even do with all this money. ridiculous sums. absolutely silly, just keep churning but like for what, what do you do when you’re already rich and powerful and a douche? just keep at that? ramping it up eternally? idgi

  On 1/21/2025 at 11:42 PM, auxien said:

i really do not understand what they can even do with all this money. ridiculous sums. absolutely silly, just keep churning but like for what, what do you do when you’re already rich and powerful and a douche? just keep at that? ramping it up eternally? idgi

to pay people off. trump also had a bunch of legal cases which amounted to exorbitant legal fees. the main need for "all this money" though is to secure, in the minds of the masses, that they have that much money. and thus, that much power.

  On 1/21/2025 at 11:47 PM, Nebraska said:

to pay people off. trump also had a bunch of legal cases which amounted to exorbitant legal fees. the main need for "all this money" though is to secure, in the minds of the masses, that they have that much money. and thus, that much power.

yeah you're right of course, but it's just....the sheer amounts of wealth are just, they're staggering. that picture of Zuck/Musk/etc. all at the inauguration with a 'nearly 1 trillion dollar valuation here' text stuck with me hard. the sheer wealth is just, unimaginable. it means nothing. it's true, pure insnaity. the millions poured into the memecoins, all of it....i just don't understand it. i do, but like, i don't understand that incomprehensible greed for more more more more more. have they no concept of enough, of the world and people around them that they're taking away from for....for what? is this what it's about? i don't get it man, i don't fucking get it. 

  On 1/22/2025 at 2:13 AM, auxien said:

 that picture of Zuck/Musk/etc. all at the inauguration with a 'nearly 1 trillion dollar valuation here' text stuck with me hard. 

zuck got hit hard too by laren sanchez's heaving breasts (a sight, allegedly, worth "nearly 1 trillion dollars")

  On 1/22/2025 at 2:13 AM, auxien said:

i don't fucking get it. 

it's been reported that in Bezos' regular memorandum around the company that he routinely reminds managers etc that he wants all of his employees to wake up in the morning "terrified they will lose their jobs".  this is public thing in the company that is well known. he's a horrible person. 

just the behind the bastards episodes alone and the various interviews he's done for the last like 15 or 20 years.. you can see what's in there.. in his head/personality and how he is what he is now. he's ruthless to his employees and always has been. he doesn't understand why a thing might be bad unless someone explains it to him in the framework of "it will look bad which will effect how the company is seen which will lead to lower profits".. that's his only metric. that's it. productivity, efficiency and maximum profit regardless of how cruel and unfair it might be to the people doing the work.  the old interviews and stories about what it was like working directly with/under him when amazon was getting going are full of all the classic silicon valley type bullshit and horrible treatment of people daily. 

psychos. legit.