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  On 7/19/2024 at 1:37 AM, auxien said:

 

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i don't think newsome would do any better than biden. a lot of other people would have the same reaction to him as they have to biden.. 

obviously, governator, arnold schwarzenneger is the answer but he can't run because foreigner. i think he'd win. no problem. 

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  On 7/18/2024 at 11:34 PM, Alcofribas said:

Undecided votes and apathy are long-existing issues but what I’m referring to is the rather popular narrative that kicked off after the debate that Biden should step down. This is entirely spurred on his debate performance and was explicitly a reaction to it. It’s all over the mainstream liberal press. You can even see it ITT after the debate. 
 

As for switching candidates to a more electable person, yeah man I think they should’ve have thought of that sooner not 4 months before election lol

yeah the debate was the turning point. they couldn’t hide biden anymore

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  On 7/19/2024 at 1:59 AM, ignatius said:

i don't think newsome would do any better than biden. a lot of other people would have the same reaction to him as they have to biden.. 

i'm not actually suggesting him, idk anything about the guy really except he looks really slimy. he's got that 'i really want to be president eventually' vibe going the little i've heard/seen of him tho.

the masses would love him far, far more than Biden, almost certainly. a pretty face goes a long way.

  On 7/19/2024 at 1:59 AM, ignatius said:

obviously, governator, arnold schwarzenneger is the answer but he can't run because foreigner. i think he'd win. no problem. 

meh, maybe. he's got a number of skeletons in his closet that might become more important in the full light of a national spotlight, if that were possible for him. he'd have a great shot at it tho

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  On 7/19/2024 at 2:09 AM, auxien said:

i'm not actually suggesting him, idk anything about the guy really except he looks really slimy. he's got that 'i really want to be president eventually' vibe going the little i've heard/seen of him tho.

the masses would love him far, far more than Biden, almost certainly. a pretty face goes a long way.

meh, maybe. he's got a number of skeletons in his closet that might become more important in the full light of a national spotlight, if that were possible for him. he'd have a great shot at it tho

yeah.. he seems like a pretty face focus group kind of candidate. 

and i was kidding about ahhhhhnuld.  he'd be the lighter side of entertainment vs trump's dark stupid side. 

i don't think people are going to jump for joy at biden stepping aside if that's what he does.. just because it means they'll have to pick someone else and usually they get it wrong when forced to decide... kamala ain't gonna be the one i think..  i'll lol and shit myself if they pick hillary.. 

but i'm still not clear on how it would all legally work. since there was a primary and people voted etc.. but i guess there's some fine print about how this kind of thing would go down... 

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  On 7/19/2024 at 2:14 AM, ignatius said:

 don't think people are going to jump for joy at biden stepping aside if that's what he does.. just because it means they'll have to pick someone else and usually they get it wrong when forced to decide... kamala ain't gonna be the one i think..  i'll lol and shit myself if they pick hillary.. 

but i'm still not clear on how it would all legally work. since there was a primary and people voted etc.. but i guess there's some fine print about how this kind of thing would go down... 

Kamala's got it already, she's really the only one they could easily/quickly swap the money/DNC ticket nomination over for without ruffling too many feathers.

i think i'd seen some writeups on how that would work, but i guarantee there'll be plenty more published over the next few days.

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  On 7/18/2024 at 9:17 PM, Alcofribas said:

republicans are way better at this bc they just follow the most powerful guy and treat him like he's perfect. "sleepy joe biden" is an epithet that's several years old, biden's current performance is same old biden imo. he's always been stuttering, spacing out, looking old and shit. we've been exposed to countless memes of biden wandering around like a confused elder for years now. and he won against trump (the same guy he's running against atm!) so why are dems pretending all this is now a game changer? just put everything you've got behind the candidate imo, do not make trump appear even stronger by literally saying your guy cannot win against him lmao. it's crazy. they don't even have some secret weapon candidate to unleash, they're just like "idk, kamala or whatever." if they want to win for whatever reason at all this is the dumbest strategy i've ever seen:

vote for us, trump is literally hitler, but right now we don't have a guy but we promise we'll have a really good one soon please be patient while we look to replace our current guy who absolutely cannot win. 

on the other side trump is embroiled in an endless barrage of lawsuits and crimes and stuff and his support from the party is unchallenged. republicans are like so what if he rapes? oh trump said some batshit thing in a debate? so what who cares? they're not like, um excuse me did trump look quite old just now we're fucked

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Total generalization of most vocal supporters in America:

Conservative:  selfish assholes who will do whatever it takes to make their side win; logic has little place here, will support basically anyone who rips the other side regardless of what this person has done / may do.

Liberals:  pedantic assholes who love to tell people how they should be thinking and acting; logic has too much of a place here, if they have issues with the candidate they'll hem and haw and cause all sorts of problems because they're not "perfect".

When shit gets down and dirty, who do you think can gather & organize a big enough voting bloc to make a difference?

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uh. looks like... it's happening?

i had been wondering what obama thinks. saw this striking wapo article yesterday:

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one could speculate that the third paragraph is about obama. would be a weird paragraph, otherwise. seems like obama very well may be a source for the article, and there's a paragraph further down about obama offering to help biden by being a sounding board and a counselor... which reads as "obama thinks he should step down." also of course this article is striking because it's about the dem heads of the house and senate, schumer and jefferies, telling biden to step down (privately but it made it to the press)

now today i see these:

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so now schiff, raskin, nadler, himes have come out publicly saying he should step down from the race. some prominent dems, including ranking members of house committees. only 10% of house dems (around 20 out of over 200). only about 5 out of over 20 of the dem ranking members in house committees. only a couple dem senators

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so pelosi in private told him she's pessimistic about his chances, and it sounds like biden's entertaining the possibility.

 

i'm still not certain it's happening. many prominent dems stand behind biden. most on the left think he's fine to do the job, the concern is more that he could lose and lose the house along with the senate. there's been a lot of weird activity on the left about persuading biden to step down in the last 3 weeks. 

 

noteworthy that himes on tv said he's optimistic about plan b. hopefully they pick a vice who helps in swing states. i'm betting kamala heads the ticket. 

 

tester, a dem in montana with a tough race, saying biden should step down. dems need a very, very strong performance in this election to keep the senate. i think i read if they win every contested race they break even at 50/50 control in the senate. 

 

i could still see it going either way but this is the first time i saw a reason to think biden might step down. will suck if he steps down and dems lose, let's hope they've got this right. or maybe they are strategizing to at least keep the house if they lose the white house

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Just switched on the tv and Trump is doing his speech live from Milwaukee. Scary motherfucker. He genuinely gives me the chills and makes my skin crawl.

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is this real life?

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Such a disconnect 

 

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  On 7/18/2024 at 6:19 PM, ignatius said:

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I actually think this ear bandage thing is ok, its obviously meant in a kind of humorous/sympathetic way. Like its a badge to say they like trump but also it has a goofy air to it. And also it has the air of 'all the other kids wear fake bandages so the kid at school with bandages feels less awkward'.

edit: I guess I think its an ok thing to do at a convention but if people start doing it in real life for the next few months, that would be a different matter.

You can bet that in the Obama era if he'd been shot in the arm or something and ended up wearing an arm bandage loads of people would suddenly have started wearing arm bandages.

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  On 7/19/2024 at 11:16 AM, zazen said:

This was a stunt, apparently?

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He's using X to vent on Musk and ask for donations!? How ironic. Biden is trying to buy the election by asking for donations on Musks X (aka Twitter). 

 

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  On 7/19/2024 at 8:09 AM, ignatius said:

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Camacho was an ex-wrestler.  We'll get to Idiocracy way before 2505.

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  On 7/16/2024 at 8:44 AM, Nebraska said:

"Elon Musk has said he plans to commit around $45 million a month to a new super political-action committee backing former President Donald Trump’s presidential run, according to people familiar with the matter.

Other backers of the group, called America PAC, include Palantir Technologies PLTR 2.14%increase; green up pointing triangle co-founder Joe Lonsdale, the Winklevoss twins, former U.S. ambassador to Canada Kelly Craft and her husband, Joe Craft, who is chief executive of coal producer Alliance Resource Partners ARLP -0.04%decrease; red down pointing triangle."

https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/elon-musk-has-said-he-is-committing-around-45-million-a-month-to-a-new-pro-trump-super-pac-dda53823

at this point, I think trump is just selling off the office of the president like a company's stock, and whoever holds the most shares gets to run things, for real



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"I will end the electric vehicle mandate on Day 1" donald j trump

In his speech at the Republican National Convention, former President Trump outlined his plan to revive the U.S. automotive industry. Trump said he would end the Biden administration's electric vehicle mandate and increase car manufacturing in the U.S.

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/trump-vows-to-end-electric-vehicle-mandate-and-revive-u-s-auto-industry-215215173790

p.s. there is no such thing as an electric vehicle mandate

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