nine inch nails - year zero

p.s. first single is going to be called "survivalism"

i think i'm done with it already, that sounds fuckin gay

not to be too quick to judge or anything though, lol

This is a decline of Front 242esque proportions, really.

for me, metallica comes to mind, but he was at metallica level with with teeth. all he needs now is a sequel song to show up on the new record. "closer too" or some shit. ooooh yeah i can see it. i want to fuck you like two animals!!

Hm, I can see the Metallica comparison, not being a metal fan at all I hadn't considered it. The parallels are shocking. I think its like, old white guy syndrome. How the fuck are you supposed to sing about being pissed off while you're smoking cigars, playing golf, and driving a Ferrari?

TDS, its remix albums, Broken and Fixed are pretty much the only good Nine Inch Nails releases. PHM was cheesy as hell and after the TDS era Reznor ran completely the fuck out of ideas. He tried to cover it up by making an "epic" album out of The Fragile (and failing miserably), but now he just says "fuck it, I'm lazy, here's 13 pop songs."

Scratch that first part, Still's instrumentals were pretty good.

  mushroom said:

TDS, its remix albums, Broken and Fixed are pretty much the only good Nine Inch Nails releases. PHM was cheesy as hell and after the TDS era Reznor ran completely the fuck out of ideas. He tried to cover it up by making an "epic" album out of The Fragile (and failing miserably), but now he just says "fuck it, I'm lazy, here's 13 pop songs."

 

Scratch that first part, Still's instrumentals were pretty good.

pretty much agreed except for PHM, i think you have to put it in the context of 1989. head like a hole was phenomenal. it still sounds really good to me, and current. plus it's his first album so it's pretty easy to buy into the sincerity of the whole thing.

still was like a rare moment of clarity i think, he totally shouldve gone with that. except for a few moments, like on the title track i think it is, it sounds really fucking good, fresh, and vulnerable, his vocals sound fresh and vulnerable and new and exciting and believably sad and mature, and then well shit, it turns into this really shitty whiny march, and he fucks the whole thing up.

Yah, Head Like a Hole was good. I think Sin was too. Jesus it's been a long time, I don't even have the CD anymore. Wasn't there an alright slow song at the end of PHM as well? I can't recall anymore.

oh yeaH!

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pretty much agreed except for PHM, i think you have to put it in the context of 1989.

It's not really worth much to me now. It just feels cheesy no matter what context I put it in, whereas TDS was released in 1994 and it still sounds awesome.

I liked the whole Trent-singing-into-a-tin-can feeling that the Still vocal tracks' production elicited, but it still sounded like shit, mainly because Trent can't sing.

The saddest part of all this is that I used to be a raving fucking fan, defending NIN at every turn. I was even a member of echoingthesound. I have every god damned Halo up until With Teeth.

  mushroom said:

mainly because Trent can't sing.

This is really the crux of the issue. Once the production value of the instrumentation declined, there's nothing left at all. Trent cannot sing at all, and never should have.

Just compare the Trent Reznor version of "Supernaut" with 10,000 Homo DJ's, to Al Jourgenson(sp) doing the same vocals.

I didn't even have a problem with his vocals until Still, because he had the benefit of multiple takes, production trickery and fifty thousand layers of obfuscation. Stripped down and raw like that, it just sounds like shit. The compositions themselves don't really even translate that well to traditional instrumentation in the first place.

i liked the naturalistic approach to his vox on still. i felt it. it was "real"

lol i remember back in the day when you had to say that supernaut was your favorite nin song to show how cool you were

true trent cant sing but he had certain qualities in his voice that sounded really really good with the right distortion. he could scream, and his voice had the proper richness of despairity in it, i guess is how i will describe it. but now his voice has changed too, he sounds like a fat old fuck. cant even scream anymore like a wiry 26 year old.

i wish he would just brood now. too old to rock. no more rockin for trent. i say this all the time. he needs to mature or get with a producer that's going to whip him into shape, but from what i read in interviews and shit ,he's impossible to work with.

fucking "survivalism" . . . .wtf. it just sounds terrible. is that even a fucking word??

  ten fingers ten toes said:

Yah, Head Like a Hole was good. I think Sin was too. Jesus it's been a long time, I don't even have the CD anymore. Wasn't there an alright slow song at the end of PHM as well? I can't recall anymore.

ehhh. ringfinger? i liked them all. only down in it is lame as fuck imo, but i still listen to that too. god i hope he doesnt decide to rap again on this new record :omg:

  Fred McGriff said:

  ten fingers ten toes said:

Yah, Head Like a Hole was good. I think Sin was too. Jesus it's been a long time, I don't even have the CD anymore. Wasn't there an alright slow song at the end of PHM as well? I can't recall anymore.

 

 

ehhh. ringfinger? i liked them all. only down in it is lame as fuck imo, but i still listen to that too. god i hope he doesnt decide to rap again on this new record :omg:

Oh yah, the rap was quite the lol wasn't it?

I didn't even know that there was a time when you had to say Supernaut was your favorite. I actualy knew the Al Jourgensen cut way before the Trent one and was shocked one day when I heard it. It was like somone took a white, milk piss in my cereal and made it look right, but taste like shit.

Survivalism. Jesus, are you actually serious? This isn't another Fred LOL like "The Deepestest Pain of Evers"?

"fuck in the fire and we'll spread all the ashes around"

"look at the animal in the cage that you built...are you sure what side you're on?"

"there is no fucking you, there is only me"

"why do you get all the love in the world?"

"I pick things up; I am the collector, and things, well things...they tend to accumulate"

With that, "Survivalism" doesn't seem all that farfetched to me.

Are those recent NIN lyrics?

all from With Teeth, so that doesn't even take into account the ridiculousness of The Fragile.

God, it's worse than I thought.

Trent needs to go the way of Barbaro.

It's not like his lyrics were ever that good, but he's not even trying anymore. I think a good way to describe the current state of NIN is "a slightly more x-treem version of Linkin Park."

*weeps*

survivalism is no joke dude

OH SHIZ THE NEW ALBUM COVER JUST GOT LEAKED!!!

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Teaser site for "Year Zero" here:

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Trent looking like Jack from Lost:

Trent/Jack, confused by his ridiculously large Doepfer modular:

"If only I could adjust the gain on my talent...."

i liked fragile quite alot..and would have hoped he would have went towards that direction more, still was more like it already. i think he should stop singing and just make an instrumental album. the dude has production skills and all the gear in his studio is just awesome...

Yah I think the coolness of his gear is inversly proportional to the coolness of his music. I didn't even bother with "With Teeth", I just heard that one bullshit radio cut a few times.