Hooper Bay!?

:omg:

If this is Mùm, I'm killing the uploader.

this is probably the twelfth thread concerning that same fake

please just fuck off.

why oh why

can we just put soup, a_s_t and archrival in teh same forum lock it and let them fight it out.

I don't believe any of those early releases actually existed. I think it was just the Board's being a bit geeeky & making up EP covers & track lists for music they hadn't even made yet! That's why we've never seen the tracks from them appear anywhere. They simply don't exist! Either that or there's some sort of 'Da Vinci code' style cover up that's keeping these tracks from becomming public domain! It's also why the Board's removed them from the discography on their website.

The pre-Twoism stuff does exist; I've spoken to owners of said releases and I happen to own a BoC Maxima cassette. You have to understand, until Twoism, BoC did all their releases DIY and for friends and family; the only reason they were ever made known to the public was the fact the Cosmic Crofter (who ran the old BoC EHX site) posted them as they were part of his personal collection and wasn't even a complete discography.

Granted, I am a bit amazed that after all these years, not one of these releases has leaked, whereas the Old Tunes stuff slipped out quite easily.

Hopefully soon we'll see these releases in some form and be able to appreciate them as much as the rest of Boards' body of work.

the biggest reason i think we don't see them released (officially, that is) is because I'm guessing the songs pose too difficult a task in terms of sample clearance. it would be too expensive.

as for why they haven't leaked, lord only knows. they must given them to some very trustworthy people.

  LOL Alzado said:

the biggest reason i think we don't see them released (officially, that is) is because I'm guessing the songs pose too difficult a task in terms of sample clearance. it would be too expensive.

 

 

as for why they haven't leaked, lord only knows. they must given them to some very trustworthy people.

Maybe they have already leaked.. as old tunes vol1.. the tracks without names

OTV1 may contain tracks from some or all of the pre-Twoism stuff, but I doubt it, although it's incredible out of all the OT material, not one known track from the pre-Twoism releases is in there (that we know of). Fans would have matched up times by now anyways and found ones that fit and proclaimed them to be those tracks anyways, so there's further indication that these tracks are not part of the pre-Twoism discography of known recordings.

RE: sample clearance - there's not too many OT tracks that use overt samples (Trapped and We've Started Up are two that come to mind), so I don't think that's entirely the issue.

[tootsie roll pop]The world may never know...[/tootsie roll pop]

i cant think of another musical act in history which has caused this much speculation about their obscure back-catalogue. i still dont know why they dont release them. or maybe warp doesnt want to fund the the pressing/marketing/releasing of this material?

  Joyrex said:

Fans would have matched up times by now anyways and found ones that fit and proclaimed them to be those tracks anyways, so there's further indication that these tracks are not part of the pre-Twoism discography of known recordings.

she is P 2:12 OTV1 1:42 AFOT

M9 3:32 AFOT 3:40 Maxima

Roygbiv 2:31 MHTRTC 2:23 Maxima

Nova Scotia Robots 1:21 Maxima 1:47 AFOT

Sixtyniner 5:07 Maxima 5:40 Twoism

Skimming stones 2:06 Maxima 2:12 AFOT

Rodox video 0:33 Maxima 1:19 AFOT

I will get it tatooed 1:37 AFOT 1:05 OTV1

House of abin'adab 1:04 OTV1 1:55 AFOT

Chinook 7:16 7" 4:39 Maxima

If these tracks had no names how would fans match them up...?

supalol.

  audiotrack said:

  Joyrex said:

Fans would have matched up times by now anyways and found ones that fit and proclaimed them to be those tracks anyways, so there's further indication that these tracks are not part of the pre-Twoism discography of known recordings.

she is P 2:12 OTV1 1:42 AFOT

M9 3:32 AFOT 3:40 Maxima

Roygbiv 2:31 MHTRTC 2:23 Maxima

Nova Scotia Robots 1:21 Maxima 1:47 AFOT

Sixtyniner 5:07 Maxima 5:40 Twoism

Skimming stones 2:06 Maxima 2:12 AFOT

Rodox video 0:33 Maxima 1:19 AFOT

I will get it tatooed 1:37 AFOT 1:05 OTV1

House of abin'adab 1:04 OTV1 1:55 AFOT

Chinook 7:16 7" 4:39 Maxima

 

If these tracks had no names how would fans match them up...?

I honestly have no idea what this means.

FUCKING. lol.

This subforum makes me hate BoC.

BoC is the only thing that exists, the rest of the universe is a collection of lies at various track lengths.

  skytree said:

  mcbpete said:

I honestly have no idea what this means.

Hmm...what he means is that track times can vary so widely (depending on how they were mixed, etc), it would be impossible to pin down a track by length alone.

Yep.

All i am saying is that of the 35 unknown tracks on OTV1 some of them might actually

be from the early rare material.

Some of the times can be matched up and a lot of them dont match at all but

then BoC already have several tracks on different albums which also dont match up.

So to say they cant be from the early material if they dont match up is bollocks..

I think they have a huge back catalogue.

If you look at the unreleased tracks from Live sessions and interviews in which they state they had to choose songs for Geogaddi, I believe them. I also believe the Old tunes series is real, it just sounds so BoC. Why wouldn't they be busy with music before twoism?

  Joyrex said:

The pre-Twoism stuff does exist; I've spoken to owners of said releases and I happen to own a BoC Maxima cassette.

Most of the BoC maxima stuff has been heard. Nothing from the early 'releases' has (Hooper Bay, Acid Memories etc..) What your saying about speaking to owners that claim to own that stuff doesn't mean jack s**t does it! It's still never actually been heard. We've just heard about people that reckon they have heard it!!

With the demand for BoC stuff it would have found it's way onto the net even if they had just given a bunch of tapes to close friends who then each flushed them down the bog! If it exists it would be out there. It's not so it doesn't & I won't believe oterwise until we hear something official from BoC or WARP. Nothing less than a proper release will rebut this view. It's just riduculous after all these years.

chill winston.

  Dogboy73 said:

  Joyrex said:

The pre-Twoism stuff does exist; I've spoken to owners of said releases and I happen to own a BoC Maxima cassette.

Most of the BoC maxima stuff has been heard. Nothing from the early 'releases' has (Hooper Bay, Acid Memories etc..) What your saying about speaking to owners that claim to own that stuff doesn't mean jack s**t does it! It's still never actually been heard. We've just heard about people that reckon they have heard it!!

 

With the demand for BoC stuff it would have found it's way onto the net even if they had just given a bunch of tapes to close friends who then each flushed them down the bog! If it exists it would be out there. It's not so it doesn't & I won't believe oterwise until we hear something official from BoC or WARP. Nothing less than a proper release will rebut this view. It's just riduculous after all these years.

hes right..!

Lol.

My $.02: They exist because Mike and Marcus have confirmed as much, and M&M are not RDJ.

It'd be interesting to see how some early BOC manages to last for 10+ minutes (eg. Line Two, Visual Drone 12). It must be pretty different in style...

  Dogboy73 said:

  Joyrex said:

The pre-Twoism stuff does exist; I've spoken to owners of said releases and I happen to own a BoC Maxima cassette.

Most of the BoC maxima stuff has been heard. Nothing from the early 'releases' has (Hooper Bay, Acid Memories etc..) What your saying about speaking to owners that claim to own that stuff doesn't mean jack s**t does it! It's still never actually been heard. We've just heard about people that reckon they have heard it!!

 

With the demand for BoC stuff it would have found it's way onto the net even if they had just given a bunch of tapes to close friends who then each flushed them down the bog! If it exists it would be out there. It's not so it doesn't & I won't believe oterwise until we hear something official from BoC or WARP. Nothing less than a proper release will rebut this view. It's just riduculous after all these years.

Never heard the early stuff? There were audio clips of "Duffy" from Acid Memories, "Wouldn't You Like To Be Free?" From Play by Numbers, "Circle" from Hooper Bay - what fucking more do you want?

Do you realize that RDJ has tracks that you have no fucking clue about, that lots of people "in the know" know about, and that you will never hear? How is that any different than BoC having a back catalogue owned by certain individuals, photos of said releases exist, and bloody audio samples from their own site to boot? So you're saying since you've never heard any RDJ track that might be in the hands of a few trusted individuals, that surely it must not exist?

You sir, are a jackass.