Autechre Autechre - Quaristice

I would laugh heartily if Autechre busted out the Juno 106 and Roland R8 and did a totally irrelevant Artificial Intelligence 1993 type album just to fuck with the fans.

  hayhook said:

something not as shite as their last 5? fucking releases please

I amso fed up with their irritating noise.

 

music please.

guys, not all of your equipment making sounds at once on random and recording it and calling it an album

 

there is a difference.

 

it's called your first nine or so years of releases (genius, unparalleled brilliance)

and anything from 2001 on (utter wanking tripe)

 

learn it and do your fans a solid for once already! fuck!

:omg:

If you hate their last 5 albums so much... maybe you're not one of their 'fans'.

  hayhook said:

something not as shite as their last 5? fucking releases please

I amso fed up with their irritating noise.

 

music please.

guys, not all of your equipment making sounds at once on random and recording it and calling it an album

 

there is a difference.

 

it's called your first nine or so years of releases (genius, unparalleled brilliance)

and anything from 2001 on (utter wanking tripe)

 

learn it and do your fans a solid for once already! fuck!

By the way, you should come up with real arguments.

If you hate their last 5 albums so much... maybe you're not one of their 'fans'.

you're probably right.

when they stopped caring about their listeners, it got harder and harder to care back as a "fan".

plenty of other artists manage to innovate without disappearing up their own assholes with their "experiments"

and make listenable/enjoyable music

i've tried, lord knows I've tried with ae, but just can't get excited about their new material anymore.

because it isn't exciting.

it's just louder/piercinger/heartlesser/melodylesser and ultimately boringer.

  hayhook said:

when they stopped caring about their listeners, it got harder and harder to care back as a "fan".

 

plenty of other artists manage to innovate without disappearing up their own assholes with their "experiments"

and make listenable/enjoyable music

 

i've tried, lord knows I've tried with ae, but just can't get excited about their new material anymore.

because it isn't exciting.

it's just louder/piercinger/heartlesser/melodylesser and ultimately boringer.

lol.

And lol at "caring about their listeners"

lol yr still a retard lol,

you sound like one of those jazz fags who called post '65 Miles "unlistenable trash"

Autechre make good music. If you don't like it, don't whine about them not caring about you. Just get over it and keep listening to Green Day.

autechre fans seems like they are split in 2... you got the pre tri repetae fans who can't get over the fact that ae has moved on... then you got the post tri repetae fans who have expanded their musical tastes... i fall into the latter... and to any of you creeps that say post tri rep stuff isn't musical and shit... yall be trippin... i guess the complex beats and shit confuse yall too much... go listen to electric skychurch or skylab 2000 or some shit!

can I like both? please?

  asymmetrical head said:

autechre fans seems like they are split in 2... you got the pre tri repetae fans who can't get over the fact that ae has moved on... then you got the post tri repetae fans who have expanded their musical tastes... i fall into the latter... and to any of you creeps that say post tri rep stuff isn't musical and shit... yall be trippin... i guess the complex beats and shit confuse yall too much... go listen to electric skychurch or skylab 2000 or some shit!

w0rd a-head!

For me, Ae became totally awesome with Chiastic Slide, and they've only been raising the bar since. Untilted's not a favorite, but I still listen to it a hell of a lot. I always cringe slightly when I hear people go on about how brilliant their first releases were and then whine about how their new music is random or too cold. Don't blame Ae for you not being able to keep up.

I just think they are getting better and better. Looking forward to this A LOT!

Listen to Sublimit! Is that epic or what!

Any suggestions on the pronunciation (just to save a later thread)? I like 'Quorri-styce' at the minute. Whatever, it's a much better title than 'Draft' and 'Untilted'.

  Zephyr_Nova said:

For me, Ae became totally awesome with Chiastic Slide, and they've only been raising the bar since. Untilted's not a favorite, but I still listen to it a hell of a lot. I always cringe slightly when I hear people go on about how brilliant their first releases were and then whine about how their new music is random or too cold. Don't blame Ae for you not being able to keep up.

This man knows his shit.

rumours on That Other Site™ say its a double album

!

dont know if i should believe that

  Kcinsu said:

can I like both? please?

me tewe

  Archrival said:

Listen to Sublimit! Is that epic or what!

Muthafucking agreed African American

I just assumed it was pronounced kwa-RIS-tis.

More underrated their albums are, better they are!

  Root5 said:

I just assumed it was pronounced kwa-RIS-tis.

yeah

  hayhook said:

something not as shite as their last 5? fucking releases please

I amso fed up with their irritating noise.

 

music please.

guys, not all of your equipment making sounds at once on random and recording it and calling it an album

 

there is a difference.

 

it's called your first nine or so years of releases (genius, unparalleled brilliance)

and anything from 2001 on (utter wanking tripe)

 

learn it and do your fans a solid for once already! fuck!

wow, fuck off.

(Sitting in the dormitory room just after class on Thursday, Achilles changes into his gym clothes as his roommate Tortoise bursts through their door in a fit of happiness.)

Tortoise: Achilles, have you seen this?

Achilles: What?

Tortoise: Do you see? Yes? I'm referring to the object, though small in size, quite interesting in stature, I am holding in front of you now.

Achilles: It's a CD.

Tortoise: Brilliant! I can see I have come to the right man.

Achilles: ...

Tortoise: Never one for suspense, I'll begin the next phase of our conversation: It is a new album from one of my country's most respected groups of musicians, Autechre.

Achilles: Okay.

Tortoise: And I am holding it in my hands.

Achilles: Okay. Yeah, I heard a new one was coming out or something.

Tortoise: Or something indeed, for I think it may be their best. Better even than the fine Confield. Do you remember the one?

Achilles: Yeah, to be honest, I kinda stopped listening to them a few years back. I liked the first one, I think I liked EP7. I don't really remember much about it.

Tortoise: I would happily grant you a very big favor in return for a moment of your time as I explain to you my thoughts on this record. Might you humor me?

Achilles: Hey, hand that to me. Over here. Thanks. Yeah, whatever.

Tortoise: Thank you. For starters, it's called Untilted. Isn't that funny? "Un-til-ted." They really do have a good sense of humor, don't you think?

Achilles: Um, not really. It's kind of stupid.

Tortoise: Well, I think it's a decent title all the same. But funnier still, I will admit, is that it's comprised of eight letters.

Achilles: Oh shit, yeah, that's hilarious.

Tortoise: Which is to say, funny when I recall that their previous album's title was also comprised of exactly eight alphanumeric characters (not counting the colon, of course). As was the full length before that-- Confield. Don't you think that's strange?

Achilles: No.

Tortoise: And even stranger still, Autechre-- A-U-T-E-C-H-R-E-- has the identical number of characters. Why, when I happened upon this, I was struck by the similarity in form.

Achilles: Okay, way to go off the deep end. Are you going to tell me now that they're geniuses and I can learn trig faster by listening to them? I mean, what's funny is I might actually study to them more if I could hear a beat somewhere.

Tortoise: As it happens, I do believe they are masters of form. But then I also believe they are as instinctively driven as any other musician, if that's not a contradiction (and I don't necessarily believe it is). Take "Pro-Radii", the third track: It begins with pounding, industrial-machinery sounds, as if stomping through a foggy alley using meter-thick blocks of iron as shoe souls. Yet, it slowly mutates into something lighter, with stuttering snare and what sounds like a digital sitar drone in the background.

Achilles: You sound like a critic.

Tortoise: And I haven't even gotten to the punchline! As it changes into something even further removed from the weighty opening, as eerie overtones ring above the pinging, metallic percussion, I realize the piece has arrived at this point in segments, lengthy and subtle, but obviously delineated to be sure. This, or course, is exactly the same scheme much of the dance music-- that with a "beat"-- follows. Measure by measure, units of 8, 16, 32, 64-- it proceeds formally, yet changes its "colors" quite unpredictably.

Achilles: Hey, hand me my bag.

Tortoise: And the first piece, "Lcc"--

Achilles: haha

Tortoise: --"Lcc", with its rapid-fire artillery precision, tight snare, and clear, metered rhythm, could easily be mistaken for dance music. In fact, I'd move some limbs for you, but would hate to influence your judgment negatively.

Achilles: Next.

Tortoise: Achilles, if you'd listen, you'd hear that the beat you are looking for is here, and an especially well-put-together one at that. Autechre are rightfully accused of being influenced by hip-hop, even as I imagine a rapper laying behind the beat might find himself on the wrong side of "1" from time to time.

Achilles: So, you're saying it's got an interesting beat as long as you don't expect any kind of groove. And you know what? It's not even like I'm turning to Autechre for "grooves." Where the fuck did all the cool electronic music even go? Like three years ago, you couldn't stop finding cool shit, shit that nobody'd ever heard before.

Tortoise: I'm saying that interest is found where you are sufficiently motivated to look. "Fermium" would fit perfectly in the Berlin mix you made for your nephew. A little busier, perhaps, but...

Achilles: Oh man, I forgot I was supposed to copy that for that board chick. Fuck, hey, can I use your computer? The library's closed today.

Tortoise: The point is, despite their abstraction over the last few years, Autechre aren't an altogether different beast than when they started. In fact, they're smarter, more refined.

Achilles: Look, I'll grant you they sound more complicated, but so the fuck what? I mean, I heard Draft 7:30. I liked it at first, until I realized all this form and content or whatever you're talking about is totally transparent. Dance music? Come on man, you need a more than "beat" to make dance music. If anything, I think they're out of ideas; throwing in a bunch of random shit to hide the fact that they peaked about seven years ago.

Tortoise: My point is, I am still moved by this music. Not just the form, not just the hidden beats and seemingly chaotic shifts in meter. I believe artists are those who instinctively recognize the ways of things, and translate them in ways ultimately true to their spirit. Ours is a "seemingly chaotic" world, but underneath the maze of people and opinions, there is order, truth, and beauty. And maybe, just maybe, Autechre have the rare gift of showing us just where we stand, turbulence and all.

Achilles: And my point is, if it's driven by form, it's a pretty messy, lazy form-- certainly no more structurally sound than any other software wank music. On top of that, if I'm supposed to "feel" this, to pick up on some obscure metaphysical in-joke, I'm not-- isn't it the job of a good artist to make that shit clear? Either way, it fails for me. Autechre decided to go their own way, fine, you know, just don't expect me to call them "geniuses."

Tortoise: [sigh] Alright, Achilles, I can see we're going to have to agree to disagree. I'm sorry to have wasted your time.

Achilles: Oh don't worry, dude, just wear headphones when you play that stuff.

(With all apologies to Douglas Hofstadter and G�del, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid, which I'd send you if I had an extra copy.)

-Dominique Leone, April 21, 2005

  The CIA said:

I would laugh heartily if Autechre busted out the Juno 106 and Roland R8 and did a totally irrelevant Artificial Intelligence 1993 type album just to fuck with the fans.

I wouldn't be too suprised... it'd kinda tie in with the whole acid revolution thing....

I still haven't got Untilted... and I hate Draft7.30... and I'm still excited.... jeez I'm completely hopeless

Also... what's the meaning of Quaristice? As in, what's it's link to the number 9? We may have to wait till the album comes out (Confield's '6' was a bit hidden after all). Hehe... it'd be pretty funny if the album art was just a big huge number 9

  Archrival said:

Listen to Sublimit! Is that epic or what!

yes!! totally "prog electronic music", hehe. hopefully there will be equal epicness on the new one!

  Springymajig said:

(Confield's '6' was a bit hidden after all)

woah what? i never heard of this confield six thing!

but yes i am looking forward to new autechre like a motherfucker!

  hayhook said:

(Sitting in the dormitory room just after class on Thursday, Achilles changes into his gym clothes as his roommate Tortoise bursts through their door in a fit of happiness.)

 

Tortoise: Achilles, have you seen this?

 

Achilles: What?

 

Tortoise: Do you see? Yes? I'm referring to the object, though small in size, quite interesting in stature, I am holding in front of you now.

 

Achilles: It's a CD.

 

Tortoise: Brilliant! I can see I have come to the right man.

 

Achilles: ...

 

Tortoise: Never one for suspense, I'll begin the next phase of our conversation: It is a new album from one of my country's most respected groups of musicians, Autechre.

 

Achilles: Okay.

 

Tortoise: And I am holding it in my hands.

 

Achilles: Okay. Yeah, I heard a new one was coming out or something.

 

Tortoise: Or something indeed, for I think it may be their best. Better even than the fine Confield. Do you remember the one?

 

Achilles: Yeah, to be honest, I kinda stopped listening to them a few years back. I liked the first one, I think I liked EP7. I don't really remember much about it.

 

Tortoise: I would happily grant you a very big favor in return for a moment of your time as I explain to you my thoughts on this record. Might you humor me?

 

Achilles: Hey, hand that to me. Over here. Thanks. Yeah, whatever.

 

Tortoise: Thank you. For starters, it's called Untilted. Isn't that funny? "Un-til-ted." They really do have a good sense of humor, don't you think?

 

Achilles: Um, not really. It's kind of stupid.

 

Tortoise: Well, I think it's a decent title all the same. But funnier still, I will admit, is that it's comprised of eight letters.

 

Achilles: Oh shit, yeah, that's hilarious.

 

Tortoise: Which is to say, funny when I recall that their previous album's title was also comprised of exactly eight alphanumeric characters (not counting the colon, of course). As was the full length before that-- Confield. Don't you think that's strange?

 

Achilles: No.

 

Tortoise: And even stranger still, Autechre-- A-U-T-E-C-H-R-E-- has the identical number of characters. Why, when I happened upon this, I was struck by the similarity in form.

 

Achilles: Okay, way to go off the deep end. Are you going to tell me now that they're geniuses and I can learn trig faster by listening to them? I mean, what's funny is I might actually study to them more if I could hear a beat somewhere.

 

Tortoise: As it happens, I do believe they are masters of form. But then I also believe they are as instinctively driven as any other musician, if that's not a contradiction (and I don't necessarily believe it is). Take "Pro-Radii", the third track: It begins with pounding, industrial-machinery sounds, as if stomping through a foggy alley using meter-thick blocks of iron as shoe souls. Yet, it slowly mutates into something lighter, with stuttering snare and what sounds like a digital sitar drone in the background.

 

Achilles: You sound like a critic.

 

Tortoise: And I haven't even gotten to the punchline! As it changes into something even further removed from the weighty opening, as eerie overtones ring above the pinging, metallic percussion, I realize the piece has arrived at this point in segments, lengthy and subtle, but obviously delineated to be sure. This, or course, is exactly the same scheme much of the dance music-- that with a "beat"-- follows. Measure by measure, units of 8, 16, 32, 64-- it proceeds formally, yet changes its "colors" quite unpredictably.

 

Achilles: Hey, hand me my bag.

 

Tortoise: And the first piece, "Lcc"--

 

Achilles: haha

 

Tortoise: --"Lcc", with its rapid-fire artillery precision, tight snare, and clear, metered rhythm, could easily be mistaken for dance music. In fact, I'd move some limbs for you, but would hate to influence your judgment negatively.

 

Achilles: Next.

 

Tortoise: Achilles, if you'd listen, you'd hear that the beat you are looking for is here, and an especially well-put-together one at that. Autechre are rightfully accused of being influenced by hip-hop, even as I imagine a rapper laying behind the beat might find himself on the wrong side of "1" from time to time.

 

Achilles: So, you're saying it's got an interesting beat as long as you don't expect any kind of groove. And you know what? It's not even like I'm turning to Autechre for "grooves." Where the fuck did all the cool electronic music even go? Like three years ago, you couldn't stop finding cool shit, shit that nobody'd ever heard before.

 

Tortoise: I'm saying that interest is found where you are sufficiently motivated to look. "Fermium" would fit perfectly in the Berlin mix you made for your nephew. A little busier, perhaps, but...

 

Achilles: Oh man, I forgot I was supposed to copy that for that board chick. Fuck, hey, can I use your computer? The library's closed today.

 

Tortoise: The point is, despite their abstraction over the last few years, Autechre aren't an altogether different beast than when they started. In fact, they're smarter, more refined.

 

Achilles: Look, I'll grant you they sound more complicated, but so the fuck what? I mean, I heard Draft 7:30. I liked it at first, until I realized all this form and content or whatever you're talking about is totally transparent. Dance music? Come on man, you need a more than "beat" to make dance music. If anything, I think they're out of ideas; throwing in a bunch of random shit to hide the fact that they peaked about seven years ago.

 

Tortoise: My point is, I am still moved by this music. Not just the form, not just the hidden beats and seemingly chaotic shifts in meter. I believe artists are those who instinctively recognize the ways of things, and translate them in ways ultimately true to their spirit. Ours is a "seemingly chaotic" world, but underneath the maze of people and opinions, there is order, truth, and beauty. And maybe, just maybe, Autechre have the rare gift of showing us just where we stand, turbulence and all.

 

Achilles: And my point is, if it's driven by form, it's a pretty messy, lazy form-- certainly no more structurally sound than any other software wank music. On top of that, if I'm supposed to "feel" this, to pick up on some obscure metaphysical in-joke, I'm not-- isn't it the job of a good artist to make that shit clear? Either way, it fails for me. Autechre decided to go their own way, fine, you know, just don't expect me to call them "geniuses."

 

Tortoise: [sigh] Alright, Achilles, I can see we're going to have to agree to disagree. I'm sorry to have wasted your time.

 

Achilles: Oh don't worry, dude, just wear headphones when you play that stuff.

 

(With all apologies to Douglas Hofstadter and G�del, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid, which I'd send you if I had an extra copy.)

 

-Dominique Leone, April 21, 2005

Well Pitchfork's right about everything, so I guess you win!

http://www.subba-cultcha.com/article_news.php?id=737

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There will be a strictly limited number of advance copies of the album available for review.

 

If you would like a copy please reply to this e mail or call Hermana on 0207 - 733 8009.

 

 

 

Autechre will also be doing a few, select interviews for the album - again,

 

if you would like to speak with Rob and Sean please reply to this e mail or call Hermana. Thanks.

Seriously, I can respect, "I don't like it." But you have to be a pretty big freaking retard to whine like a fag "wahhh they don't care about my ears, they hate me because they make music outside my comfort zone wahhhhh." I mean come on. You don't have to like it, but if you freaking can't recognize that the originality of pretty much every Autechre album and ep, you fail at music more than anyone I have ever met. While containing much that people don't like, Autechre are the most legit and consistently original group there is.

PS. It is required that I mention how much I hate Pitchfork whenever it is mentioned. I hate Pitchfork media.