Terminator Salvation

  Awepittance said:

  Rubin Farr said:

leaked shot from entertainment tonight of supposed CG model of Arnie's face and torso.

 

 

looks like a Tekken screenshot

haha yah for realz, that cant be from the movie

EDIT:I double double click ah too quick

if that screenshot is for real Mcg has officially embarrassed himself

edit: compare the tekken screenshot above with the below arnold render, there is less detail in the sculpting of the original arnold model. i'm doubting this is real

  Rubin Farr said:

leaked shot from entertainment tonight of supposed CG model of Arnie's face and torso.

 

lol

  blackdust said:

  Awepittance said:

makes some sense, but why does john seem confused/bewildered at the prospect of a human/machine hybrid in this trailer? did his memories of a T800 coming to save him get erased?

Because Marcus is something "different" than what the T-800 is he is not from 2018, it will be explained in the film I could tell you but then you would be like me spoilt :(

yeah, this trailer pretty much demonstrates that

I just realised that Danny Elfman did the score for T4 Salvation.

  zazen said:

  blackdust said:

  Awepittance said:

makes some sense, but why does john seem confused/bewildered at the prospect of a human/machine hybrid in this trailer? did his memories of a T800 coming to save him get erased?

Because Marcus is something "different" than what the T-800 is he is not from 2018, it will be explained in the film I could tell you but then you would be like me spoilt :(

 

yeah, this trailer pretty much demonstrates that

 

 

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Near the start this Marcus character clearly doesn't know what year is he in, probably beamed into 2018 from the future or an alternate future. He probably is the 'Salvation' referred to. Connor is expecting the T800s to 'come on line soon' and at first thinks Marcus is a T800, but he is something different. From the other clips I've seen he has some human organs (Conor refers to his beating heart in one clip, here), so he might be more like a hybrid that a T800.

My quote was made before those trailers giving you more of Marcus came out.

It all has to do with Project Angel and helena bonham carter.

Its out next week anyway it will all make sense then :)

  Squee said:

I just realised that Danny Elfman did the score for T4 Salvation.

yeah pretty much the only positive aspect of the film as far as i can tell

When was the last time Elfman scored anything memorable?

edward scissorhands, pee wees big adventure.

That was the last time

What about Planet of the Apes remake

jk

I think the most memorable peice Elfman has done and will ever do, will be The Simpsons theme, that will live on FOREVER!

  thanks robert moses said:

edward scissorhands, pee wees big adventure.

Agreed, but the piano solo from Corpse Bride is beautiful. As a matter of fact, I could just watch that for 90 minutes and then skip the rest of the movie.

  Squee said:

  thanks robert moses said:

edward scissorhands, pee wees big adventure.

 

Agreed, but the piano solo from Corpse Bride is beautiful. As a matter of fact, I could just watch that for 90 minutes and then skip the rest of the movie.

never bothered seeing this movie, that scene is cool though. but if thats the best part in the movie i probably will never see it

  Awepittance said:

  Squee said:

  thanks robert moses said:

edward scissorhands, pee wees big adventure.

 

Agreed, but the piano solo from Corpse Bride is beautiful. As a matter of fact, I could just watch that for 90 minutes and then skip the rest of the movie.

 

never bothered seeing this movie, that scene is cool though. but if thats the best part in the movie i probably will never see it

The movie is just so unimaginative which is a shame because you know that it could have been so much more. I don't know if it's because Burton was held back or was running low on coffee or whatever. It's just not interesting. It has a couple of memorable scenes, like the piano solo and then there's a piano duo which is kinda cool, but that's just about it.

EDIT: I'm watching the piano solo scene again and I'm thinking just how cool Corpse Bride would have been if it had only been more melancholy or just more like that very scene. It jumps back and forth between being craaaazy and dark. But then again, I guess he was being careful since he was also working on a $150 mio Chocolate Factory project...

  Squee said:

  Awepittance said:

  Squee said:

  thanks robert moses said:

edward scissorhands, pee wees big adventure.

 

Agreed, but the piano solo from Corpse Bride is beautiful. As a matter of fact, I could just watch that for 90 minutes and then skip the rest of the movie.

 

never bothered seeing this movie, that scene is cool though. but if thats the best part in the movie i probably will never see it

 

The movie is just so unimaginative which is a shame because you know that it could have been so much more. I don't know if it's because Burton was held back or was running low on coffee or whatever. It's just not interesting. It has a couple of memorable scenes, like the piano solo and then there's a piano duo which is kinda cool, but that's just about it.

Quite a shame too, I was hoping it would be a "return to form" for burton but I guess he still needs more coffee...

Here are some early review quotes:

Variety:

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Darker, grimmer and more stylistically single-minded than its two relatively giddy predecessors. "Terminator Salvation" boasts the kind of singular vision that distinguished the James Cameron original, the full-throttle kinetics of "Speed" and an old-fashioned regard for human (and humanoid) heroics.

The Hollywood Reporter:

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Although director McG manages to keep the machinery humming 18 years after James Cameron's "Judgment Day" and its liquid metal raised the F/X stakes considerably, anchoring it in any sort of satisfying dramatic context is another story.

The College Times:

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Terminator: Salvation is still a good entry and a marked improvement over its third predecessor that may not exactly set the sci-fi genre ablaze with its effects or plot line but progresses the saga in an interesting direction with good action to boot.

these reviews are either cherry picked or the early ones happened to be disproportionately positive

rottentomatoes.com

Terminator Salvation : 55 reviews counted : 36% fresh

Terminator 3 : 188 reviews counted : 70% fresh

from the SF chronicle

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"McG is a director with an above-average eye and an original instinct for camera placement. To his credit, he's not one of those lazy types who think they can generate excitement in an action sequence by shaking the camera or kicking it. But he has a major weakness as a filmmaker, and that weakness is all over "Terminator Salvation": His grand, elaborate visual sense is completely detached from his brain"..."Whoever thought in 2003 that we'd look back on "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines" as the good old days?"

Not sure why anyone would give a project like that to someone like McG. Does it matter anyway? We're all seeing it.

  Mr Salads said:

Not sure why anyone would give a project like that to someone like McG. Does it matter anyway? We're all seeing it.

jaha exacly i know i'm seeing it just to see how the hell they think they could get away with a CGI young arnold

Just saw the movie. Nothing thought provoking but definitely got my $10 worth. Literally nonstop action, you feel like you're in a video game/on a rollercoaster. I don't see how it can get negative reviews because I thought it continued the story pretty well.

  assegai said:

Just saw the movie. Nothing thought provoking but definitely got my $10 worth. Literally nonstop action, you feel like you're in a video game/on a rollercoaster. I don't see how it can get negative reviews because I thought it continued the story pretty well.

how was the cgi arnold?

i'm still debating whether this is worth my $10

  Awepittance said:

  assegai said:

Just saw the movie. Nothing thought provoking but definitely got my $10 worth. Literally nonstop action, you feel like you're in a video game/on a rollercoaster. I don't see how it can get negative reviews because I thought it continued the story pretty well.

 

how was the cgi arnold?

 

i'm still debating whether this is worth my $10

Short and sweet. Extremely convincing to non the wiser.

I saw it in a digital theater with impeccable sound/picture quality.

If your into action movies that make you go "wow" at the sfx, christian bale and/or semi-interested in the terminator franchise I'd say make sure you check it out in the movies.

  assegai said:

If your into action movies that make you go "wow" at the sfx, christian bale and/or semi-interested in the terminator franchise I'd say make sure you check it out in the movies.

are the special effects in the trailer unfinished then? they didn't do much for wowing me, i'd rather see the harvester minatures from T1 and T2 from what i've seen of Salvation, at least those weren't made out of fake shiny metal textures on cgi models

I thought the CG was well done, I do 3d and was quite impressed. A lot of the time you couldn't tell what was animatronics, CG or models. (without giving anything away) it's a summer action blockbuster, so...

For one, Arnold looks better than that screenshot posted.

  assegai said:

I thought the CG was well done, I do 3d and was quite impressed. A lot of the time you couldn't tell what was animatronics, CG or models. (without giving anything away) it's a summer action blockbuster, so...

For one, Arnold looks better than that screenshot posted.

well that's good to hear, in the preview when you watch that T800 skull fly towards the screen broken i see so much visible bump mapping and CGI artifacts it looks like a xbox360 cut scene . hopefully they've cleaned that stuff up in the final version.

so is that screenshot fake that was posted above?