Terminator Salvation

  Awepittance said:

  assegai said:

I thought the CG was well done, I do 3d and was quite impressed. A lot of the time you couldn't tell what was animatronics, CG or models. (without giving anything away) it's a summer action blockbuster, so...

For one, Arnold looks better than that screenshot posted.

 

 

well that's good to hear, in the preview when you watch that T800 skull fly towards the screen broken i see so much visible bump mapping and CGI artifacts it looks like a xbox360 cut scene . hopefully they've cleaned that stuff up in the final version.

 

so is that screenshot fake that was posted above?

no that screenshot of CGI arnie wasnt fake but all in all in the movie it wasnt that bad, all they would have had to do was make his face lighted a lot darker and it would have been convincing, but they lit it up like a christmas tree so ya fail.

That being said, the mediocre acting at points, a few dumb lines, some minor CGI imperfections didnt really stop this flick from being really entertaining. The action scenes were all pretty wicked, the sound design was a lot like transformers but fit pretty well and was quite intense, the story as a whole wasnt too bad.

THE WORST MAJOR FACTOR OF THE MOVIE IS SOME CHEESY FUCKING SCORES IN A FEW SCENES.... I cant remember his name but the soundtrack composer is quite established eh? I'd say he fucked quite a few scenes with the score orchestration alone.

  Blanket Fort Collapse said:

THE WORST MAJOR FACTOR OF THE MOVIE IS SOME CHEESY FUCKING SCORES IN A FEW SCENES.... I cant remember his name but the soundtrack composer is quite established eh? I'd say he fucked quite a few scenes with the score orchestration alone.

*cough* Elfman *cough*

  Blanket Fort Collapse said:

  Awepittance said:

  assegai said:

I thought the CG was well done, I do 3d and was quite impressed. A lot of the time you couldn't tell what was animatronics, CG or models. (without giving anything away) it's a summer action blockbuster, so...

For one, Arnold looks better than that screenshot posted.

 

 

well that's good to hear, in the preview when you watch that T800 skull fly towards the screen broken i see so much visible bump mapping and CGI artifacts it looks like a xbox360 cut scene . hopefully they've cleaned that stuff up in the final version.

 

so is that screenshot fake that was posted above?

 

no that screenshot of CGI arnie wasnt fake but all in all in the movie it wasnt that bad, all they would have had to do was make his face lighted a lot darker and it would have been convincing, but they lit it up like a christmas tree so ya fail.

i have to say i'm very surprised that wasn't a fake screenshot it is way way too bright for the lack of detail/realism in his face. the best thing they could have done was have some lumbering naked buff guy start attacking christian bale in a very dark room and as the fight progresses you go into some slivers of light that show that it's arnold's face. filmmakers need to take after hithcock more even in action movies, less is more.

i heard this hilarious (if true) spoiler about the ending

genuine apologies for shitting on this movie so much, i haven't seen it and i will stop shitting on it at least until i do

  Awepittance said:

i heard this hilarious (if true) spoiler about the ending

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

that skynet reveals itself in the form of a human face as helena bohnam carter

oh no, Shodan, anyone?

this was surprisingly good. i had extremely low expectations and i also tend to eat up anything remotely post apocalyptic, so that might color my opinion, but i was thoroughly entertained. bale definitely phoned it in, atleast for most of the movie, and that was the major weak spot in the film, but his character isn't really the backbone of the movie anyway. worthington did a good job and i enjoyed the introductory shots of los angeles. it looked remarkably like fallout 3 and got me really pumped for the potential mad max sequel that's currently in the works. it would have benefited from an r rating, but oh well. anyway, i give it an 8 out of 10.

also that spoiler posted makes sense in the context of the film (it's true, sort of).

  zaphod said:

this was surprisingly good. i had extremely low expectations and i also tend to eat up anything remotely post apocalyptic, so that might color my opinion, but i was thoroughly entertained. bale definitely phoned it in, atleast for most of the movie, and that was the major weak spot in the film, but his character isn't really the backbone of the movie anyway. worthington did a good job and i enjoyed the introductory shots of los angeles. it looked remarkably like fallout 3 and got me really pumped for the potential mad max sequel that's currently in the works. it would have benefited from an r rating, but oh well. anyway, i give it an 8 out of 10.

also that spoiler posted makes sense in the context of the film (it's true, sort of).

bale might have phoned it in a bit but he definitely wasn't delivering the cringe worthy lines, the part were worthington's character is all talkin bout alice chains "Something my brother listened to" was hella cringe cheesy but again IMO some of the cringe worthy scenes were brought on by the way the elfmans score cheesy mellowdramatisized everything. Im pretty sure in that scene right as he said that a cheesy ass score melody came in that hammed it up.

I agree with everything else you said

for sure, there was cringe worthy shit all over the place. but it's a summer blockbuster, it's made by mcg...i'm surprised it was as good as it was.

also, this took place long before the flashbacks in the first two films, and they at least keep things consistent (john connor gets his facial scar near the end). i'm sure some major stuff happens that "blocks out the sun" or whatever was going on in the first two, or maybe they really did drop that aesthetic. i never liked it to begin with so it was fine with me; the flashbacks(forwards?) were always the cheesiest parts of the terminator movies, to me.

anyway, i've taken a rather fatalistic stance to these kinds of films. i go in expecting nothing and i seem to walk out satisfied. it's amazing to me, with all of the shit that a studio and the hollywood system puts people through, that these movies end up watchable at all.

This movie was pretty lame. Plot holes everywhere, crappy dialogue, a shoddily edited third act, and a ton of missed opportunities in regards to where they could have taken the plot.

A few examples of what pissed me off so much. Most of them happen towards the end:

yeah anyone who enjoyed the first two or likes to nitpick is going to destroy this. i didn't actually like the first terminator (it's one of the most overrated action films ever, a b-movie that somehow gets a-movie status with sci fi fans). the second is a classic, it's iconic, sure, but it's a big dumb movie. i don't understand why this series is given so much respect, like it's 2001 or blade runner. there aren't any really deep themes that get explored in the first two, and then the third was garbage. i never cared about the characters in the first three, i'm not going to start caring now.

it sucked.

i was pretty baked at the show, so i can't decide if it was ridiculously fantastic, or fantastically ridiculous. many LOLs to be had, especially Ahnold. after that the cheese grew exponentially. i said to my date...

which is exactly what happened. i liked how McCheese brought a b-movie sensibility to the franchise, because they've always been over the top, but it definitely isn't the super serious save the world epic Cameron envisioned. a good popcorn flick.

  zaphod said:

yeah anyone who enjoyed the first two or likes to nitpick is going to destroy this. i didn't actually like the first terminator (it's one of the most overrated action films ever, a b-movie that somehow gets a-movie status with sci fi fans). the second is a classic, it's iconic, sure, but it's a big dumb movie. i don't understand why this series is given so much respect, like it's 2001 or blade runner. there aren't any really deep themes that get explored in the first two, and then the third was garbage. i never cared about the characters in the first three, i'm not going to start caring now.

T2 is probably one of the greatest films ever made. And I'm totally fucking serious saying that.

Terminator 1 was fucking great. When was the last time you saw it? Its suspenseful, its dark, and with the budget he had he did fucking incredible things.

  Mr Salads said:

  zaphod said:

yeah anyone who enjoyed the first two or likes to nitpick is going to destroy this. i didn't actually like the first terminator (it's one of the most overrated action films ever, a b-movie that somehow gets a-movie status with sci fi fans). the second is a classic, it's iconic, sure, but it's a big dumb movie. i don't understand why this series is given so much respect, like it's 2001 or blade runner. there aren't any really deep themes that get explored in the first two, and then the third was garbage. i never cared about the characters in the first three, i'm not going to start caring now.

 

T2 is probably one of the greatest films ever made. And I'm totally fucking serious saying that.

 

Terminator 1 was fucking great. When was the last time you saw it? Its suspenseful, its dark, and with the budget he had he did fucking incredible things.

Quoted for fucking truth

  Awepittance said:

  Blanket Fort Collapse said:

  Awepittance said:

  assegai said:

I thought the CG was well done, I do 3d and was quite impressed. A lot of the time you couldn't tell what was animatronics, CG or models. (without giving anything away) it's a summer action blockbuster, so...

For one, Arnold looks better than that screenshot posted.

 

 

well that's good to hear, in the preview when you watch that T800 skull fly towards the screen broken i see so much visible bump mapping and CGI artifacts it looks like a xbox360 cut scene . hopefully they've cleaned that stuff up in the final version.

 

so is that screenshot fake that was posted above?

 

no that screenshot of CGI arnie wasnt fake but all in all in the movie it wasnt that bad, all they would have had to do was make his face lighted a lot darker and it would have been convincing, but they lit it up like a christmas tree so ya fail.

 

i have to say i'm very surprised that wasn't a fake screenshot it is way way too bright for the lack of detail/realism in his face. the best thing they could have done was have some lumbering naked buff guy start attacking christian bale in a very dark room and as the fight progresses you go into some slivers of light that show that it's arnold's face. filmmakers need to take after hithcock more even in action movies, less is more.

 

i heard this hilarious (if true) spoiler about the ending

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

that skynet reveals itself in the form of a human face as helena bohnam carter

 

genuine apologies for shitting on this movie so much, i haven't seen it and i will stop shitting on it at least until i do

I agree - it's much more suspenseful with what you can't see versus what you can - had that fight happened in some dark, dimly lit room, where all you could see is a large muscular shape with spiked hair and red eyes...

*shudder*

That would have made it imply it was Arnold, and not go through the expense/fanservice of having to show a CGI face.

Here is what King of the Nerds Harry Knowles thinks of T4:

"This feels like ALIEN RESURRECTION to me. Something that kills something wonderful for me. I’m no longer interested in Terminator. McG terminated my enthusiasm. I love the first two films. At least I’ll always have that. Fuck this movie."

I am going to watch a camera copy.....

here is the rest of the review with lots of spoilers and Harry going into detail on why the film fails so tremendously...

sounds fucking terrible......

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41140

fuck that video whore/Charlie's Angels/Hack film maker one named idiot McG for fucking up something that could have been well made, written and interesting....

from the reviews i'm seeing, if you've never been that into Terminator you might really enjoy this film.

awesome...!

camera copy...

whenever....

  Atop said:

Here is what King of the Nerds Harry Knowles thinks of T4:

 

"This feels like ALIEN RESURRECTION to me. Something that kills something wonderful for me. I’m no longer interested in Terminator. McG terminated my enthusiasm. I love the first two films. At least I’ll always have that. Fuck this movie."

 

I am going to watch a camera copy.....

 

here is the rest of the review with lots of spoilers and Harry going into detail on why the film fails so tremendously...

 

sounds fucking terrible......

 

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41140

 

fuck that video whore/Charlie's Angels/Hack film maker one named idiot McG for fucking up something that could have been well made, written and interesting....

Goddamn, that was a PWN by Knowles...

yeah, he ripped it so hard that I now have no interest whatsoever...

  Atop said:

Here is what King of the Nerds Harry Knowles thinks of T4:

 

"This feels like ALIEN RESURRECTION to me. Something that kills something wonderful for me. I’m no longer interested in Terminator. McG terminated my enthusiasm. I love the first two films. At least I’ll always have that. Fuck this movie."

 

I am going to watch a camera copy.....

 

here is the rest of the review with lots of spoilers and Harry going into detail on why the film fails so tremendously...

 

sounds fucking terrible......

 

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41140

 

fuck that video whore/Charlie's Angels/Hack film maker one named idiot McG for fucking up something that could have been well made, written and interesting....

The whole "terminator mythology" was ruined in 3 anyway.

I stand by it being a good/fun summer blockbuster.

go see Star Trek again....

good popcorn movie. enjoyed on friday afternoon in a half full theatre.

bale wasnt great, why does he use that voice? arnie didnt look great. the english guy was alright.

the end didnt make any sense though.

not much else to say about it though.

i just started watching battlestar galatica so it was a strange time to watch something with similar ideas. although i suppose terminators have always looked like us. the whole human organs bit is new i guess.

  assegai said:

  Atop said:

Here is what King of the Nerds Harry Knowles thinks of T4:

 

"This feels like ALIEN RESURRECTION to me. Something that kills something wonderful for me. I’m no longer interested in Terminator. McG terminated my enthusiasm. I love the first two films. At least I’ll always have that. Fuck this movie."

 

I am going to watch a camera copy.....

 

here is the rest of the review with lots of spoilers and Harry going into detail on why the film fails so tremendously...

 

sounds fucking terrible......

 

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41140

 

fuck that video whore/Charlie's Angels/Hack film maker one named idiot McG for fucking up something that could have been well made, written and interesting....

 

The whole "terminator mythology" was ruined in 3 anyway.

i don't really see how 3 ruined the mythology, sure it was a very flawed overly silly movie but did it defy the cannon? Terminator Salvation just in the trailer alone breaks cannon like 5 times.

by the way the CGI arnold footage is leaked on youtube, and yes it is embarrassing, and looks worse than even those screenshots

fuck the daylight zero aesthetic connection to T1 and T2 salvation

  Awepittance said:

i don't really see how 3 ruined the mythology, sure it was a very flawed overly silly movie but did it defy the cannon?

Yes

well want to watch this

i read the thread title as Terminator Salvatorin

probably jazzband