Autechre Autechre.. . Untilted updates.. .

audiophile makes some excellent points. whilst ae are my favourites i wnat to avoid becoming someone who would consider anything they make great especially if they were just farting down a microphone but somehow id ont think they are.

i admittedly haven't listened to untilted a great deal, but i'm really having a hard time with this one. i love confield and draft 7.30, but untilted seems a bit hard work. might be because i've only got the vinyl and haven't ripped it, so i only listen to it in my room while usually doing other things, i should try the car thing with a cd.

I didn't like the new Nickelback album at first but then I listened to it really loud (and I mean really) in my car A LOT and now I like it. I suggest you guys do the same if you don't like it. Just keep listening until you like it, cause it'll click eventually. If you already like it, then that's cool.

  vodor said:

I didn't like the new Nickelback album at first but then I listened to it really loud (and I mean really) in my car A LOT and now I like it. I suggest you guys do the same if you don't like it. Just keep listening until you like it, cause it'll click eventually. If you already like it, then that's cool.

id rather not force myself to like something. if i like it i'll come back to it. i havent found myself crawling back to untilted very often but usually i'll throw it on for a good twaCK session. even though draft is one of my least fave ae releases i always come back just for surripere & 6ie.cr

  Audiophile said:

  vodor said:

I didn't like the new Nickelback album at first but then I listened to it really loud (and I mean really) in my car A LOT and now I like it. I suggest you guys do the same if you don't like it. Just keep listening until you like it, cause it'll click eventually. If you already like it, then that's cool.

id rather not force myself to like something. if i like it i'll come back to it. i havent found myself crawling back to untilted very often but usually i'll throw it on for a good twaCK session. even though draft is one of my least fave ae releases i always come back just for surripere & 6ie.cr

please joyrex get rid of the subforums, the boc virus is spreading

  Glitchy said:

  six said:

and let's not forget the live tour, which proves they've still got it.

yeah I wouldnt know about that.. . also I think that the start of pro radii is the worst thing autechre has ever done.. . it sounds like some kids first electronic track. ..

i thought that the beginning is cool. sounds evil

  cosmonaut said:

  Audiophile said:

  vodor said:

I didn't like the new Nickelback album at first but then I listened to it really loud (and I mean really) in my car A LOT and now I like it. I suggest you guys do the same if you don't like it. Just keep listening until you like it, cause it'll click eventually. If you already like it, then that's cool.

id rather not force myself to like something. if i like it i'll come back to it. i havent found myself crawling back to untilted very often but usually i'll throw it on for a good twaCK session. even though draft is one of my least fave ae releases i always come back just for surripere & 6ie.cr

please joyrex get rid of the subforums, the boc virus is spreading

if it bothers you so much that noobs discuss useless crap in these forums then why keep coming back. if you 733ts think there is no reason to have these subforums, then hurry up and shut them down.

I think Untilted is possibly the best Autechre release, but Draft comes extremely close. For some reason it doesn't sound like it was churned out really quick. The beats are timed immaculately and there are some fucking incredible moments on this release. Although it was my second Autechre purchase (after Tri Repetae) it still remains as probably the best in my eyes. And Pro Radii is the best track I've ever heard by anyone ever. Augmatic Disport and The Trees are also favourites.

no matter what you or i think about individual tracks, you still have to give autechre credit for always moving on. their progress never seems to stop. they don't seem to develop habits, either and i hope they'll never really loose their curiosity in sounds. i'd always prefer a new album with fresh and new ideas/techniques than to see autechre going down with a 4th or 5th version of lp5. wouldn't that be much more hideous?

keep in mind: autechre are in no "niche", they are the beginning and the end of their own category.

Well said, I definitely agree with that. Sometimes I don't like their new direction, but I gotta admit it's always something new!

  eatanter said:

no matter what you or i think about individual tracks, you still have to give autechre credit for always moving on. their progress never seems to stop. they don't seem to develop habits, either and i hope they'll never really loose their curiosity in sounds. i'd always prefer a new album with fresh and new ideas/techniques than to see autechre going down with a 4th or 5th version of lp5. wouldn't that be much more hideous?

keep in mind: autechre are in no "niche", they are the beginning and the end of their own category.

i think their live show tour shows progress, but the actual album Untilted is more of the same of confield and draft but more stripped down, dryer, and less emotional. If one could call this progress then i cant really argue.

the album doesnt fit in any niche really..The fact that untilted has been presented as a conceptual album, being made entirely on hardware is interesting and must have been challenging, but it sounds like they are trying to imitate their pre vious software sequencing techniques rather than making something stand on it's own. The live show/tour music of untilted, at least in my opinion seems far more progressive in style and composition than the actual album that was released. I sense that autechre was somewhat cautious with this release, the untilted live show has a much more uninhibited quality. All the glitchyness and experimental sequencing on Untilted (album) sounds very rushed and a repeat of what we've already heard them do on previous albums.

it was made entirely with hardware?! some of the sequencing tricks they used just using hardware must have been tough to put together. almost sounds like they wanted a album that resembled ep7, in the sounds they chose to manipulate. either way its a good addition but nothing i keep coming back to day after day.

  Audiophile said:

it was made entirely with hardware?! some of the sequencing tricks they used just using hardware must have been tough to put together.

that is the claim they make, although i'm not quite sure i believe it entirely. I definitely hear some post production DSP and edits being used, its possible they consider pro tools hardware(?). The live direct board Glasgow show definitely sounds like it could have used only hardware though

  Audiophile said:

almost sounds like they wanted a album that resembled ep7, in the sounds they chose to manipulate.

thats how i feel, they use a lot of straight up FM synth sounds kits on about half of the tracks.

i think the problem with new ae releases are the sky-high expectations that the announcement of a new album of theirs

always stirs up. do you expect a major, earthshattering breakthrough with every note? i think they've really pushed audio experiments to a remarkably far point, the most experimental thing left for them to be done would be

some straightforward reggae album or something...

i want to believe they can keep pushing it, but indeed the point could have been reached already. maybe if they did untilted all with hardware, maybe they can push the boundaries with all software. im not too fluent with max/msp but im sure they can tinker away to make some even further music. time will tell i guess, all we can do is ponder and wonder...

one of my favs

excellent masterpiece

I like this album, but not as much as any of their other recent releases. I kept reading reviews where people were saying it was their most "human sounding" release in a long time, but I think it sounds colder and more sterile than anything else they've done. It sounds fantastic live though. I saw them in Vancouver and it was a totally unique experience for me. I gained a lot of respect after seeing that. I think their music really needs to be experienced in a live setting to be fully appreciated. I already really enjoyed their music, but being able to feel every beat hit me in the gut was something else.

My favorite Autechre release is Gantz Graf, with Draft 7.30 as a close second. Heavily processed organic goodness.

  neuwerld said:

there are some fucking incredible moments on this release.

Yes! There are indeed :grin:

I must admit I didn't 'get it' on the first listen but completely agree with what a lot of you have said that it's one you need to pay full attention to. I stuck it on my mp3 player and listened on the way to work, instead of in the house while I was doing other stuff, and everything just clicked. I love this album so much now.

untilted is the best CD of 2005 and 2006 and the live show is just a MOTHERFUCKER

i'm coming 'round to it

ipacial section really hit the spot this morning. more than ever. i think the key is volume (lots of it)

i really dig a lot of the finer, chirpier sounds in contrast and compliment to the hard hitting kicks. a nice array of timbres assembling the whole of the webs

i am someone who has quite an out there music collection, nearly all Mezbow releases, most of all early electronic releases, Schaffer, Henry, Cage, Subotnick Creel Pone etc, all Mego style releases, Farmers,Hecker , Pita lodas of improv Erstwhile , NWW,Coil etc and then obvious electronic music stuff like Autechre , Afx, etc as well as a near complete Sun Ra collection etc.....

I have loved AUtechre since Inculabala came out

now Untilted... isnt my fav by any stretch but I can see what they were trying to achieve, they are or where then, trying to really take the drum programming outside of the supposed restrictions of normal parameters of quantisation etc, so the focus is more on the beat which is a major part/ art of Autechre but where the magic also lies is in the ambiences/background and while its still there it does take a back seat.

We as fans of Autechre are with them on these learning quests (studies) while we listen ,they have to still be ahead of the game as the playing field has changed, software is in everyones hands now Deep Blue Glitch etc and whilst I dont love all the Untilted tracks they are the only true pioneers of beat ridden sound composition nowdays. and for that I always look forward to each release.

What we as listeners also have to factor in is ( assuming you have been with them since day dot) that as AUtechre change in sound over the years, we also have new interests in sound that may be in parallel with them and out of synch with them at other times .

the programming it's just ridiculously well done, beat-wise. take Iera for example.

i listen to it a lot, mainly when i go to bed; there i just relax and focus on the details.

and that