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  On 5/10/2012 at 9:58 PM, Kanakori said:

And last post, you missed the point. I'm worried about the third person, the kid, I don't think his existence should be played with in the name of a happy gay couple and to see if it is "ok" (or whatever that would be). It is even unjustifiable in pratical terms because there aren't that much gay couples even less couples whiling to adopt. The orphanages wouldn't get half empty I'm sure. This would be just the final victory for the gay lobby. I coulnd't careless about gay people, they can spread all the gayness they want if that doesnt conflict with my existence or anyone elses. And don't get me started on the general narcisism and other psychosys that come with the general gay population. I know some and they all match that profile. I'm not saying that there aren't alot of them perfectly normal, which there are - FACT. But if you're not being a moron you will at least admit there is an identifiable behavior amongst a vast part of the group. - And alot of them don't hide it, they are proud of it and they cultivate it.

It doesnt mean a gay person will adhere to movements such as lGBT and Gpride, but it would be dishonest to say this isn't a political faction., because it is one, with alot of power and money at the highest levels. Yes, third eye - the all seying eye - is a metaphor for buttsecks.

 

Yeah, think of the children. Fuck me. I don't give a fuck about gay lobbies. I give a fuck about people who have unreasonable restrictions posed on them by unrealistic morons. If they didn't they wouldn't need a gay lobby in the first place. And you're backing your shit thinking how? With limited anecdotal evidence. Great job!

 

Second of all, none of this harms any child worse than what goes on in the average family home. Gay people aren't any more fucked up than other people. Would you rather they have an ungrateful alcoholic dad who beats them? And don't get me started on fundie families.

 

I'm not even going to bother on the conspiracy bullshit.

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  On 5/10/2012 at 9:55 PM, azatoth said:

So then, instead of drive-by shit posting, why not explain in clear terms why gay parents should not be able to adopt and raise children?

because parents set an example...

 

and of course people with heterosexual parents come out to be gay, and vice versa, but there's something special in the father-mother-child tringle!!! lol NO?

 

i'm not even talking about education, it's something prior to that...

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  On 5/10/2012 at 10:06 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 9:55 PM, azatoth said:

So then, instead of drive-by shit posting, why not explain in clear terms why gay parents should not be able to adopt and raise children?

because parents set an example...

 

and of course people with heterosexual parents come out to be gay, and vice versa, but there's something special in the father-mother-child tringle!!! lol NO?

 

i'm not even talking about education, it's something prior to that...

 

I am not talking to you, that post was meant to Kanakori.

 

So you are saying that homosexuality is something that is learnt and a choice and not something you are born with?

And what is exactly so special about the father-mother-child triangle? If you look through history and different cultures there have been and are a vast array of different ways children are brought up and family configurations, but you are saying the western nuclear type family is somehow special and more correct?

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  On 5/10/2012 at 10:05 PM, chimera slot mom said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 9:58 PM, Kanakori said:

And last post, you missed the point. I'm worried about the third person, the kid, I don't think his existence should be played with in the name of a happy gay couple and to see if it is "ok" (or whatever that would be). It is even unjustifiable in pratical terms because there aren't that much gay couples even less couples whiling to adopt. The orphanages wouldn't get half empty I'm sure. This would be just the final victory for the gay lobby. I coulnd't careless about gay people, they can spread all the gayness they want if that doesnt conflict with my existence or anyone elses. And don't get me started on the general narcisism and other psychosys that come with the general gay population. I know some and they all match that profile. I'm not saying that there aren't alot of them perfectly normal, which there are - FACT. But if you're not being a moron you will at least admit there is an identifiable behavior amongst a vast part of the group. - And alot of them don't hide it, they are proud of it and they cultivate it.

It doesnt mean a gay person will adhere to movements such as lGBT and Gpride, but it would be dishonest to say this isn't a political faction., because it is one, with alot of power and money at the highest levels. Yes, third eye - the all seying eye - is a metaphor for buttsecks.

 

Yeah, think of the children. Fuck me. I don't give a fuck about gay lobbies. I give a fuck about people who have unreasonable restrictions posed on them by unrealistic morons. If they didn't they wouldn't need a gay lobby in the first place. And you're backing your shit thinking how? With limited anecdotal evidence. Great job!

 

Second of all, none of this harms any child worse than what goes on in the average family home. Gay people aren't any more fucked up than other people. Would you rather they have an ungrateful alcoholic dad who beats them? And don't get me started on fundie families.

 

I'm not even going to bother on the conspiracy bullshit.

instead of making gay adoption legal, they should make "retard people can't have babys law"...
  On 5/10/2012 at 10:06 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 9:55 PM, azatoth said:

So then, instead of drive-by shit posting, why not explain in clear terms why gay parents should not be able to adopt and raise children?

because parents set an example...

 

and of course people with heterosexual parents come out to be gay, and vice versa, but there's something special in the father-mother-child tringle!!! lol NO?

 

i'm not even talking about education, it's something prior to that...

 

No, there's nothing special in playing house with daddy and mommy. There's nothing special in anything. We will raise kids with robots in the future and it will be perfectly fine. It's just that you can't fit it into your head because you're brainwashed by your cultural experience. Too much watching happy families on TV that don't exist in real life. Real families are fucked up, man.

  On 5/10/2012 at 10:10 PM, chimera slot mom said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 10:06 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 9:55 PM, azatoth said:

So then, instead of drive-by shit posting, why not explain in clear terms why gay parents should not be able to adopt and raise children?

because parents set an example...

 

and of course people with heterosexual parents come out to be gay, and vice versa, but there's something special in the father-mother-child tringle!!! lol NO?

 

i'm not even talking about education, it's something prior to that...

 

No, there's nothing special in playing house with daddy and mommy. There's nothing special in anything. We will raise kids with robots in the future and it will be perfectly fine. It's just that you can't fit it into your head because you're brainwashed by your cultural experience. Too much watching happy families on TV that don't exist in real life. Real families are fucked up, man.

lol i agree with you, let's ban families instead!

 

but seriously, YES there's a child-father-mother triangle shit!!! IT'S NATURAL...

 

 

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  On 5/10/2012 at 9:58 PM, Kanakori said:

And don't get me started on the general narcisism and other psychosys that come with the general gay population. I know some and they all match that profile. I'm not saying that there aren't alot of them perfectly normal, which there are - FACT.

oh okay here's the "proof" i was looking for. nevermind.

  On 5/10/2012 at 10:10 PM, chimera slot mom said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 10:06 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 9:55 PM, azatoth said:

So then, instead of drive-by shit posting, why not explain in clear terms why gay parents should not be able to adopt and raise children?

because parents set an example...

 

and of course people with heterosexual parents come out to be gay, and vice versa, but there's something special in the father-mother-child tringle!!! lol NO?

 

i'm not even talking about education, it's something prior to that...

 

No, there's nothing special in playing house with daddy and mommy. There's nothing special in anything. We will raise kids with robots in the future and it will be perfectly fine. It's just that you can't fit it into your head because you're brainwashed by your cultural experience. Too much watching happy families on TV that don't exist in real life. Real families are fucked up, man.

 

Oh nice, for a second I thought you were being serious.

  On 2/19/2012 at 4:04 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

again, i don't really hate skrillex as much as i hate the people that think that sort of music has any sort of integrity. i try to be open minded, and a lot of the time i employ a "well, each to his/her own" attitude towards personal preferences such as music taste and who knows, maybe it is original in its own way, sorta like a drawing by an autistic kid.

  On 5/10/2012 at 10:11 PM, KY said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 9:58 PM, Kanakori said:

And don't get me started on the general narcisism and other psychosys that come with the general gay population. I know some and they all match that profile. I'm not saying that there aren't alot of them perfectly normal, which there are - FACT.

oh okay here's the "proof" i was looking for. nevermind.

 

That what, I have some aversion for gay people? That answer "proves" you're biased as you interpret it that way when I made it clear I supported both versions.

  On 2/19/2012 at 4:04 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

again, i don't really hate skrillex as much as i hate the people that think that sort of music has any sort of integrity. i try to be open minded, and a lot of the time i employ a "well, each to his/her own" attitude towards personal preferences such as music taste and who knows, maybe it is original in its own way, sorta like a drawing by an autistic kid.

  On 5/10/2012 at 10:14 PM, Kanakori said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 10:11 PM, KY said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 9:58 PM, Kanakori said:

And don't get me started on the general narcisism and other psychosys that come with the general gay population. I know some and they all match that profile. I'm not saying that there aren't alot of them perfectly normal, which there are - FACT.

oh okay here's the "proof" i was looking for. nevermind.

 

That what, I have some aversion for gay people? That answer "proves" you're biased as you interpret it that way when I made it clear I supported both versions.

if kanakori said exactly the same thing but about women instead, no one would care, and lots would agree, but he's saying about gay peopl, OH MY THE NERVE =o Edited by THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON
  On 5/10/2012 at 10:11 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 10:10 PM, chimera slot mom said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 10:06 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 9:55 PM, azatoth said:

So then, instead of drive-by shit posting, why not explain in clear terms why gay parents should not be able to adopt and raise children?

because parents set an example...

 

and of course people with heterosexual parents come out to be gay, and vice versa, but there's something special in the father-mother-child tringle!!! lol NO?

 

i'm not even talking about education, it's something prior to that...

 

No, there's nothing special in playing house with daddy and mommy. There's nothing special in anything. We will raise kids with robots in the future and it will be perfectly fine. It's just that you can't fit it into your head because you're brainwashed by your cultural experience. Too much watching happy families on TV that don't exist in real life. Real families are fucked up, man.

lol i agree with you, let's ban families instead!

 

but seriously, YES there's a child-father-mother triangle shit!!! IT'S NATURAL...

 

 

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what about bastard child-infertile father-and/or infertile mother triangle? NATURAL?

 

 

sorry

  On 5/10/2012 at 10:08 PM, azatoth said:

so you are saying that homosexuality is something that is learnt and a choice and not something you are born with?

you're saying the contrary???

 

  On 5/10/2012 at 10:19 PM, tauboo said:

what about bastard child-infertile father-and/or infertile mother triangle? NATURAL?

 

 

sorry

that's obviously unnatural, infertility is not natural, it was invented by the church!!! Edited by THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON
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  On 5/10/2012 at 9:42 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 3:04 PM, ruiagnelo said:

As rambo, i think doing a study about how people addopted by gay couples grow should be priority

 

if kids adopted by gays turn out to be gay, is that okay? is it a "natural" thing?

 

 

if those kids weren't allowed to go to school, play with their neighbours or watch tv, than most probably they were more vulnerable yes

And I thought you could turn gay without being "born" gay. Oh boy then it must be a condition.

I really wanted to turn gay now I can't. Bummer.

 

  On 5/10/2012 at 10:22 PM, ruiagnelo said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 9:42 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 3:04 PM, ruiagnelo said:

As rambo, i think doing a study about how people addopted by gay couples grow should be priority

 

if kids adopted by gays turn out to be gay, is that okay? is it a "natural" thing?

 

 

if those kids weren't allowed to go to school, play with their neighbours or watch tv, than most probably they were more vulnerable yes

 

That's a guess. The answer is: You don't know.

  On 2/19/2012 at 4:04 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

again, i don't really hate skrillex as much as i hate the people that think that sort of music has any sort of integrity. i try to be open minded, and a lot of the time i employ a "well, each to his/her own" attitude towards personal preferences such as music taste and who knows, maybe it is original in its own way, sorta like a drawing by an autistic kid.

  On 5/10/2012 at 10:23 PM, Kanakori said:

And I thought you could turn gay without being "born" gay. Oh boy then it must be a condition.

I really wanted to turn gay now I can't. Bummer.

yes, it's on your dna, you don't have it on your blood.... lol it's a condition, what? GAY PEOPLE ARE SICK??? Edited by THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON

That's what he said don't look at me!

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  On 2/19/2012 at 4:04 AM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

again, i don't really hate skrillex as much as i hate the people that think that sort of music has any sort of integrity. i try to be open minded, and a lot of the time i employ a "well, each to his/her own" attitude towards personal preferences such as music taste and who knows, maybe it is original in its own way, sorta like a drawing by an autistic kid.

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  On 5/10/2012 at 10:24 PM, Kanakori said:

And I thought you could turn gay without being "born" gay. Oh boy then it must be a condition.

I really wanted to turn gay now I can't. Bummer.

 

  On 5/10/2012 at 10:22 PM, ruiagnelo said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 9:42 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 3:04 PM, ruiagnelo said:

As rambo, i think doing a study about how people addopted by gay couples grow should be priority

 

if kids adopted by gays turn out to be gay, is that okay? is it a "natural" thing?

 

 

if those kids weren't allowed to go to school, play with their neighbours or watch tv, than most probably they were more vulnerable yes

 

That's a guess. The answer is: You don't know.

 

that's why i was talking about doing studies.

we can't talk about certain issues this abstract way. we need a protrait of society to talk things properly

 

edit: i really didn't answer T IS MJ. the question is: we can't really tell if kids living with gay parents turning gay would be a natural (?) thing. people are shaped by everything, environment, people, tv, insects, clouds, garbage, blood, whatever, but a kid living with hetero parents could turn gay just as a kid with gay parents can. that's really not the way we should be heading.

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  On 5/10/2012 at 10:23 PM, Kanakori said:

I really wanted to turn gay now I can't. Bummer.

 

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  On 5/10/2012 at 10:07 PM, ZiggomaticV17 said:

Has anyone here seen The Birdcage?

Great movie.

Only when I was a kid, I'm sure a lot of it went over my head at the time.

You know what's weird? When members of this forum continue to debate with Kanakori, even though they've seen what he says in other threads. Thought this thread was about Gay Obama, not if Gay Equality is moral or whatever.

 

Anyways, in regards to those that said something about voting for the lesser of two evils, why don't you vote for the green party? They were pro-gay long before the democrats.

"But Murveman, if I vote Green it will take away votes from the Democrats and the Republican will win"

You've been brain-washed by Democrats, silly. It is in fact the Democrats who are taking votes away from the Green Party. There are so many far-left liberals out there who continue to vote democrat year after year just because they're told that "The Bad Guys" will win if they don't. That's a shitty reason to vote for a party, in my opinion.

should it be legal for people, who run studies to see if kids raised by gay parents turn out "unnatural", to adopt gay children?

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  On 5/10/2012 at 10:26 PM, ruiagnelo said:

edit: i really didn't answer T IS MJ. the question is: we can't really tell if kids living with gay parents turning gay would be a natural (?) thing. people are shaped by everything, environment, people, tv, insects, clouds, garbage, blood, whatever, but a kid living with hetero parents could turn gay just as a kid with gay parents can. that's really not the way we should be heading.

NO

 

someone stated that you are born gay!! and i believe him!

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  On 5/10/2012 at 10:31 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:
  On 5/10/2012 at 10:26 PM, ruiagnelo said:

edit: i really didn't answer T IS MJ. the question is: we can't really tell if kids living with gay parents turning gay would be a natural (?) thing. people are shaped by everything, environment, people, tv, insects, clouds, garbage, blood, whatever, but a kid living with hetero parents could turn gay just as a kid with gay parents can. that's really not the way we should be heading.

NO

 

someone stated that you are born gay!! and i believe him!

 

who stated it?

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