XI year old Autechre Album Released: Exai (WARP234)

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I know where you can buy the fake-ones...all 3 for 15$ ;)

  On 1/31/2013 at 6:58 PM, phling said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 6:54 PM, xox said:

The first time Ae sounds better on headphones. Those samples sounds perfect (having in mind compression and everything) on my AudioTechnica ATH-M50 phones...even better than on PMC TB2A speakers and that's really rare, not sure if it's a good thing but it's rare.

 

I almost 100% certain they have one of these phones:

 

- Sennheiser HD 650

- Beyerdynamic DT 880

- AudioTechnica ATH-M50

 

Yes, statistically these phones are the most used in pro audio world but...not everybody likes them.

 

Although ATH-M50 are closed-back design, DT 880 semi-open and HD 650 open design they all have very similar freq response...almost identical. The use of reverb makes me believe they use canes with closed-back design, maybe even Beyerdynamic DT770.

 

 

edit: people are weird

 

watmm: run, don't walk, to the nearest musical equipment purchase facility and buy these 3 motherfucking headphones

The people who buy this album will buy it whether it leaks or not. The people that don't buy the album are gonna get it illegally whether it leaks or not. I don't see how if they wait another month they will suddenly be inclined to buy the album that they wouldn't buy if it was available today.

  On 1/31/2013 at 7:02 PM, Retosik said:

 

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I dont see how 30-sec low-quality preview songs are copyrighted

They were removed off Norman's site just because they probably put the samples too early, but okay...

It's still someone's work - a five second piece of music can still be copyrighted to whoever made it.

  On 1/31/2013 at 7:02 PM, Retosik said:

 

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Retosik,

 

 

 

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I dont see how 30-sec low-quality preview songs are copyrighted

They were removed off Norman's site just because they probably put the samples too early, but okay...

You're new here, so please also understand if you have an issue with Administration or Moderation actions, best to discuss it via PM and not post it publicly. Thanks.

200 pages soon. they hate us, that's for sure

  On 1/31/2013 at 6:14 PM, lumpenprol said:

The samples feel very "up front" to me, superficially exciting but may have little staying power. We shall see...

Very well put. The superficial excitement is actually offputting to me - it makes me fear the rest of the track won't have anything to offer. Also interesting theory about Sean.

But yeah, I'm still all ears.

  On 1/31/2013 at 6:54 PM, xox said:

The first time Ae sounds better on headphones. Those samples sounds perfect (having in mind compression and everything) on my AudioTechnica ATH-M50 phones...even better than on PMC TB2A speakers and that's really rare, not sure if it's a good thing but it's rare.

 

I almost 100% certain they have one of these phones:

 

- Sennheiser HD 650

- Beyerdynamic DT 880

- AudioTechnica ATH-M50

 

Yes, statistically these phones are the most used in pro audio world but...not everybody likes them.

 

Although ATH-M50 are closed-back design, DT 880 semi-open and HD 650 open design they all have very similar freq response...almost identical. The use of reverb makes me believe they use canes with closed-back design, maybe even Beyerdynamic DT770.

 

 

edit: people are weird

hd650 and dt 880 are listening headphones, not monitors. do pro audio people produce/mix/master stuff on headphones that are slightly eq'ed to begin with ?

I love how intense autechre fans get about discussing the music.. it becomes almost religious extremist! The opinions are so subjective.. More than any artist i've ever seen. Endlessly intriguing. Amen

I found Oversteps to contain a lot of memorable moments within each song that I anticipate upon each listen, rather than a large sonic assault from beginning to end of a song. There's a section in krYlon (4:15-4:24) that makes the whole track worthwhile for me and it kind of sums up my opinion on the whole album. Small sections of freshness. I hope Exai will be like this concept + beats. !!

should have called MOT - MOVE OF TEN UNMEMORABLE MOMENTS.COM

what relevance does the .com have at the end?

  On 1/31/2013 at 7:46 PM, morgang said:

I love how intense autechre fans get about discussing the music.. it becomes almost religious extremist! The opinions are so subjective.. More than any artist i've ever seen. Endlessly intriguing. Amen

Me too but it's pretty obnoxious when they start dismissing or even discussing violent retribution for their opinion on a work of electronic music. That's some Taliban shit.

Out of interest, what are Joyrex's 15 favourite Autechre tracks, Exai tracks included if any get in there.

  On 1/31/2013 at 7:49 PM, oscillik said:

what relevance does the .com have at the end?

the innernette

to anyone that has this: from reading a lot of the reviews i am getting the impression that treale is kind of a launchpad for this album so to speak. would it be fair to say that a lot of a treale feeling at all?

Still no release...

  On 1/31/2013 at 7:09 PM, TheTransitionary said:

The people who buy this album will buy it whether it leaks or not. The people that don't buy the album are gonna get it illegally whether it leaks or not. I don't see how if they wait another month they will suddenly be inclined to buy the album that they wouldn't buy if it was available today.

This. The thieves will steal it either way. It not leaking will not affect that in the slightest. As soon as it leaks, legitimate mp3s will be sent to preorderers and as soon as they get them it will be up on soulseek. If it doesn't leak it'll still be on soulseek on launch day so yeah it will make absolutely zero difference.

  On 1/31/2013 at 7:28 PM, eugene said:

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hd650 and dt 880 are listening headphones, not monitors. do pro audio people produce/mix/master stuff on headphones that are slightly eq'ed to begin with ?

Not sure what are you talking about but... By ''not monitors'' i guess you mean not the closed-back design? If so for mixing/mastering doesn't matter much except for 'spatial' analyzing, but you have speakers to reference with anyway.

As for freq response these phones are ideal for mixing/mastering. They're not EQed (not perceived as...), or not as much.

Freq response of 'flat' headphones differs from freq response of 'flat' speakers but they both do perceive to sound 'flat'.

The main thing is to 'know' your headphones/speakers inside-out, in other words => how many critical listening

(not any kind listening) hours you have with them.

If you need answer from a real pro go to the gearslutz.com forum and see what professionals think about specific model. Nice place to learn lot of stuff about music production, if you don't know that already...but i can say what i know too.

  On 1/31/2013 at 9:24 PM, xox said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 7:28 PM, eugene said:

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hd650 and dt 880 are listening headphones, not monitors. do pro audio people produce/mix/master stuff on headphones that are slightly eq'ed to begin with ?

 

Not sure what are you talking about but... By ''not monitors'' i guess you mean not the closed-back design? If so for mixing/mastering doesn't matter much except for 'spatial' analyzing, but you have speakers to reference with anyway.

As for freq response these phones are ideal for mixing/mastering. They're not EQed (not perceived as...), or not as much.

Freq response of 'flat' headphones differs from freq response of 'flat' speakers but they both do perceive to sound 'flat'.

The main thing is to 'know' your headphones/speakers inside-out, in other words => how many critical listening

(not any kind listening) hours you have with them.

If you need answer from a real pro go to the gearslutz.com forum and see what professionals think about specific model. Nice place to learn lot of stuff about music production, if you don't know that already...but i can say what i know too.

the bolded part is what i meant, because hd650 are definitely tinkered with in the mid-bass range.

there's a quote from hd650 manual that hints at the fact that they're not ideal for mixing/mastering work:

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"With the HD 650, Sennheiser has followed the changes in the listening habits of music-lovers and the way in which they experience sound. In spite of all purism and the highest demands on precise sound reproduction, a slight change in listening behaviour is detectable. Today many music-lovers want to feel the sound more instead of plainly analysing it. The HD 650 now captivates your senses where you used to be a mere observer. It allows total submersion into an ocean of music and lets you completely forget your surroundings.

Come and enjoy this unique listening experience!

Wow, this really hit a wall.

ho hum

  On 1/31/2013 at 3:54 PM, sweepstakes said:

I've said it before and I will say it again. R.I.P. > Oversteps.

ouch, major picard face palm on this one. Maybe if Autechre put the whole album througjh Ableton side chain and shitty crackle filter i wouldnt be so picard right now

Yeah and so close to 200 :|

  On 1/31/2013 at 12:39 PM, vincentvc said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 12:22 PM, Fredd-E said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 9:54 AM, Awepittance said:

whatever autechre are doing in these new clips it just puts so many other electronic producers to shame. IT's soaked in a lot of processing and various effects sooooo much better than all these half-assed musicians who just put everything through record crackle filter or bandpass or sonic decimator or fake tape hiss filter. AE wins again. (fuck actress)

Why the hate towards Actress? The last days I've been listening his three albums on Spotify repeatedly and I really like what I'm hearing. It's definitely a style on its own. Sounds fresh. Why comparing it to AE btw? I don't really see the connection.

Other than that Actress mentions Autechre in interviews I agree; apples and oranges.

 

Actress

The way I approach music is much more from a sculptural perspective. You build algorithms. You can layer those algorithms so they become marble-like. Autechre do the complete opposite to what I do. You can see the axis, you can feel what they’re rotating around certain things. What I do is the same but I smudge it completely, so you can feel the axis but you can’t get that clarity of where it is. I like things to drip. There’s execution and there’s perfection and even though I’m a perfectionist I don’t like having something that’s so perfect you can’t see the flaws. You have to have a sense of there being a flaw in it, because essentially I’m human and I want a human aspect always to be there in my music.

http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/13235/1/exclusive-actress-rip-film-interview

 

And again, 30 second 128kbps previews dudes!

 

Btw Obel or JR, can I just put the 30sec mp3-links here?

cool so he admits he 'smudges it completely' the same facade all modern electronic shit 'abstract' producers do because they don't have real sound design skills so they have to absolutely soak the music and entire mixdown in shitty effects. Welcome to 2013 guys. At least when you're going to 'smudge' something , do it in an interesting way, not just turn all the dithering effects up to 11.

  On 1/31/2013 at 1:06 PM, Amen Lare said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 12:22 PM, Fredd-E said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 9:54 AM, Awepittance said:

whatever autechre are doing in these new clips it just puts so many other electronic producers to shame. IT's soaked in a lot of processing and various effects sooooo much better than all these half-assed musicians who just put everything through record crackle filter or bandpass or sonic decimator or fake tape hiss filter. AE wins again. (fuck actress)

Why the hate towards Actress? The last days I've been listening his three albums on Spotify repeatedly and I really like what I'm hearing. It's definitely a style on its own. Sounds fresh. Why comparing it to AE btw? I don't really see the connection.

 

I don't hate him, but there is certainly something wrong with the level of worshipping of his releases from hip webzines up to specialist magazines like The Wire. I had listened to a lot of minimal techno and other non-idm electronic stuff back in 00's that had no attention from outside the scenes, and then Actress, sounding like complete and not always inspiring re-hash of those ideas, suddenly has unique style and fresh sound, talking about being opposite to Ae. A couple of years ago he also wrote on his twitter that AFX was god but current Zomby is probably better than AFX.

wow, just wow. Most overhyped artist of 2012 easily, i guess this is what Terrence Mckenna meant by us reaching 'full novelty'

his newest track sounds like he's doing flying lotus vs zomby (at their worst) through a fucking bit crusher, what the bloody hell has happened is my question. I'm not arguing with the fact that people get genuine emotional resonance from it... but are any actual music producers here in any way impressed by his sound?

its interesting he would bring up Zomby because that's another artist who's amateur sound was mistaken by many as some kind of brilliant invention, when it seemed just sort of at best an 'enlightened amateur' approach.

Yes but they're very precise, or better to say precise enough for critical listening and any little deviations in freq response (as you said ''tinkered with in the mid-bass range'' and not that sharp highs...but never the less very precise and clean) can be easily alleviated with additional critical listening. We're talking here in cost/benefit terms and that's why I bought the AudioTechnicas, half the price and better IMO. Although the Sennheisers are open-back design with very good spacial feel the AudioTechincas (closed-to-semi-open design) are good enough in that department for my needs.

BTW...What's that new Ae everybody talking about?!

  On 1/31/2013 at 9:39 PM, eugene said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 9:24 PM, xox said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 7:28 PM, eugene said:

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hd650 and dt 880 are listening headphones, not monitors. do pro audio people produce/mix/master stuff on headphones that are slightly eq'ed to begin with ?

 

Not sure what are you talking about but... By ''not monitors'' i guess you mean not the closed-back design? If so for mixing/mastering doesn't matter much except for 'spatial' analyzing, but you have speakers to reference with anyway.

As for freq response these phones are ideal for mixing/mastering. They're not EQed (not perceived as...), or not as much.

Freq response of 'flat' headphones differs from freq response of 'flat' speakers but they both do perceive to sound 'flat'.

The main thing is to 'know' your headphones/speakers inside-out, in other words => how many critical listening

(not any kind listening) hours you have with them.

If you need answer from a real pro go to the gearslutz.com forum and see what professionals think about specific model. Nice place to learn lot of stuff about music production, if you don't know that already...but i can say what i know too.

the bolded part is what i meant, because hd650 are definitely tinkered with in the mid-bass range.

 

there's a quote from hd650 manual that hints at the fact that they're not ideal for mixing/mastering work:

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"With the HD 650, Sennheiser has followed the changes in the listening habits of music-lovers and the way in which they experience sound. In spite of all purism and the highest demands on precise sound reproduction, a slight change in listening behaviour is detectable. Today many music-lovers want to feel the sound more instead of plainly analysing it. The HD 650 now captivates your senses where you used to be a mere observer. It allows total submersion into an ocean of music and lets you completely forget your surroundings.
Come and enjoy this unique listening experience!

 

come on exai

warp give me a friday present

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:07 PM, Awepittance said:

I'm not arguing with the fact that people get genuine emotional resonance from it... but are any actual music producers here in any way impressed by his sound?

Also not any kind of Zomby fan, just don't get it