XI year old Autechre Album Released: Exai (WARP234)

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:55 PM, Awepittance said:

acknowledged, and i agree i am creepily protective over my aE

Why, though? It just makes appreciation of them more brittle, right?

I love actress one of my favourite artists the past 2 years, especially live he brings back the 90´s rave and idm music.

His last album Rip was a piece of boring shit, but you should check out Splaszh and his ep´s.

His music reminds me somehow of Mordor and dark shit.

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:06 PM, Aserinsky said:

Just sit back and enjoy the lols.

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:01 PM, Aserinsky said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:57 PM, Awepittance said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:51 PM, Aserinsky said:

That was actually two tracks assigned to a crossfader, no reverb whatsoever

 

EDIT: Someone asked him how he got this exact effect on his Twitter and he answered. I have no input to the creation of this remix whatsoever. None at all

 

Hi Actress

 

lol

 

To be fair, you are sort of correct, the second part is two loops. One from the key change, another is a loop of a reverb tail. So yes, there is more reverb than the original track, but it wasn't actually crafted by using any sort of reverb effect / plug in.

 

Wait, does this explanation give more credence to the theory that this is a joke, or that I actually am Actress? THE PLOT THICKENS

if you are actress or know him personally, i can appreciate that you are taking my criticisms lightly. obviously i have no personal problems with his music, i just realized upon listening to those 30 second samples to myself 'woah i can't believe how much this knocks the dick out of the mouth of producers like actress' in terms of 'soaking' your sounds in effects to make them sound 'smudged'. So sorry for continuing the wave of criticism, i can back off if it's genuinely annoying people. Its just this thread is sort of dead right now

Can you tell me what's so innovative about what Autechre is doing, though? One of those samples seriously sounded like a Proswell track.

i guess my gaze is singularly focused on the sound design aspect, since i can't gather much else from the 30 second samples.

the opening track is just really mysterious sounding glitchery, like what effects are they using? It's hard to pin it down right off the bat even after repeated listens. It's this sort of mystery that keeps me hooked on Autechre in general.

some of them are less interesting than others, but in general there is always at least 1 mysterious partially un-crackable hard to reverse engineer element of every one of their songs of the last decade. Even just the snare and bass drum in tuinorizn sounds amazing. It sounds very dirty and distorted yet very clean and heavily bassy/all encompassing. Maybe they used some kind of custom analog modular patch for the drums? who knows. It's definitely not a sound that one could easily stumble upon, it took dedication to the craft to come up with it.

to me at least what i hear from Exai so far, if i were to describe overall what i find innovative about it, is that they are channeling a sort of flavor of that dirty/compressed/side chained aesthetic very popular in electronic music right now but putting in straight into your fucking face with no obfuscation or soaking of the entire mixdown in effects. It has that complexity and density that COnfield and Draft had while completely erasing the clinical clean minimal sound both of those had.

edit: not all the sample clips gave me this impression, some of them sounded more up front and less mysterious to me, but there is enough mystery going on to really pique my interest. Unlike Quaristice, Move of ten or Oversteps

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:10 PM, sweepstakes said:

Can you tell me what's so innovative about what Autechre is doing, though?

Wait, wait, wait....Are you suicidal or something?!

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:10 PM, sweepstakes said:

Can you tell me what's so innovative about what Autechre is doing, though? One of those samples seriously sounded like a Proswell track.

I detected no Proswell personally. tryin to think of which track you're referring to...

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:12 PM, xox said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:10 PM, sweepstakes said:

Can you tell me what's so innovative about what Autechre is doing, though?

 

Wait, wait, wait....Are you suicidal or something?!

Dont believe him he is joking

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:06 PM, sweepstakes said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:53 PM, grue said:

don't really get this actress discussion. the whole thing has a kind of creepy overly protective quality, like in really heated star wars vs. star trek discussions. by no means is actress as innovative or interesting as autechre, but that's not exactly a fair standard in the narrow world of moderately underground electronic music

Totally, and you're probably talking about me. But I that's why I wanted to mention that I do love Autechre's older stuff, I was just really underwhelmed by the latest . Which everyone on WATMM knows by now.

 

I'm just getting sick of people slagging Actress. I never said he was super innovative, though I do think R.I.P. is just better, in terms of my own tastes, than Oversteps or MoT. I don't know what the fuck he's doing in this thread anyway. I would be really happy to just call a cease fire on Actress slagging right now. Especially since I am trying to be really careful about not slagging Autechre but apparently even criticizing these 30-second samples in a still hopeful and open way is offensive to most of the fanboys.

i didn't have you in mind, truthfully, and i understand where you're coming from (i like actress quite a lot, though i'm not as down on oversteps/mot as you are). i didn't have anyone in particular in mind, i was just pointing out that discussions of actress take on a weirdly territorial tone on this board for some reason, moreso than regular disagreements over music

The one with the chords everyone was getting a boner over.

Is this actress that we're talking about the one that likes bukkake in parallel with DVDA? If so niiiiiiiiiiiceeeeeeeeeee!

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:09 PM, Awepittance said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:01 PM, Aserinsky said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:57 PM, Awepittance said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:51 PM, Aserinsky said:

That was actually two tracks assigned to a crossfader, no reverb whatsoever

 

EDIT: Someone asked him how he got this exact effect on his Twitter and he answered. I have no input to the creation of this remix whatsoever. None at all

 

Hi Actress

 

lol

 

To be fair, you are sort of correct, the second part is two loops. One from the key change, another is a loop of a reverb tail. So yes, there is more reverb than the original track, but it wasn't actually crafted by using any sort of reverb effect / plug in.

 

Wait, does this explanation give more credence to the theory that this is a joke, or that I actually am Actress? THE PLOT THICKENS

 

if you are actress or know him personally, i can appreciate that you are taking my criticisms lightly. obviously i have no personal problems with his music, i just realized upon listening to those 30 second samples to myself 'woah i can't believe how much this knocks the dick out of the mouth of producers like actress' in terms of 'soaking' your sounds in effects to make them sound 'smudged'

Nah I'm not Actress (or know him personally, I just said the Twitter thing to emphasise the joke it was real), it's literally just a parody track that I knocked out in 15 minutes in Ableton. I just wanted to spread a little joy and humour into the thread, nothing more. It's cool you don't like Actress, even though I'm a fan I can see why for many people his music seems lazy and unskilled. Don't worry, I think as fans of weird experimental music we should be pretty used to and accepting of criticism of what we listen to by now, both from inside and outside of the music circles we're drawn to

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:12 PM, Awepittance said:

i guess my gaze is singularly focused on the sound design aspect, since i can't gather much else from the 30 second samples.

 

the opening track is just really mysterious sounding glitchery, like what effects are they using? It's hard to pin it down right off the bat even after repeated listens. It's this sort of mystery that keeps me hooked on Autechre in general.

 

some of them are less interesting than others, but in general there is always at least 1 mysterious partially un-crackable hard to reverse engineer element of every one of their songs of the last decade. Even just the snare and bass drum in tuinorizn sounds amazing. It sounds very dirty and distorted yet very clean and heavily bassy/all encompassing. Maybe they used some kind of custom analog modular patch for the drums? who knows. It's definitely not a sound that one could easily stumble upon, it took dedication to the craft to come up with it.

Yeah, that first track was really cool sounding to me at first, actually. There was some weird delay or FFT or chorus or big polyphony-stack thing going on of the likes they used in Quaristice that sounded really cool. And then... they didn't do anything with it. And I managed to get tired of it even within the 30 second clip.

They do make cool sounds still. I just liked it when those went beyond this, like, Michael Bay scale of EXTREME MACHO ACTION BLAST shit and there was actually some subtlety to it. The only subtlety I heard in Oversteps was this weird detached glowing neon space opera stuff that really isn't that interesting to me, I just can't relate to it.

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:17 PM, Aserinsky said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:09 PM, Awepittance said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:01 PM, Aserinsky said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:57 PM, Awepittance said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:51 PM, Aserinsky said:

That was actually two tracks assigned to a crossfader, no reverb whatsoever

 

EDIT: Someone asked him how he got this exact effect on his Twitter and he answered. I have no input to the creation of this remix whatsoever. None at all

 

Hi Actress

 

lol

 

To be fair, you are sort of correct, the second part is two loops. One from the key change, another is a loop of a reverb tail. So yes, there is more reverb than the original track, but it wasn't actually crafted by using any sort of reverb effect / plug in.

 

Wait, does this explanation give more credence to the theory that this is a joke, or that I actually am Actress? THE PLOT THICKENS

 

if you are actress or know him personally, i can appreciate that you are taking my criticisms lightly. obviously i have no personal problems with his music, i just realized upon listening to those 30 second samples to myself 'woah i can't believe how much this knocks the dick out of the mouth of producers like actress' in terms of 'soaking' your sounds in effects to make them sound 'smudged'

Nah I'm not Actress (or know him personally, I just said the Twitter thing to emphasise the joke it was real), it's literally just a parody track that I knocked out in 15 minutes in Ableton. I just wanted to spread a little joy and humour into the thread, nothing more. It's cool you don't like Actress, even though I'm a fan I can see why for many people his music seems lazy and unskilled. Don't worry, I think as fans of weird experimental music we should be pretty used to and accepting of criticism of what we listen to by now, both from inside and outside of the music circles we're drawn to

good job man, it actually sounded very convincing.

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:18 PM, sweepstakes said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:12 PM, Awepittance said:

i guess my gaze is singularly focused on the sound design aspect, since i can't gather much else from the 30 second samples.

 

the opening track is just really mysterious sounding glitchery, like what effects are they using? It's hard to pin it down right off the bat even after repeated listens. It's this sort of mystery that keeps me hooked on Autechre in general.

 

some of them are less interesting than others, but in general there is always at least 1 mysterious partially un-crackable hard to reverse engineer element of every one of their songs of the last decade. Even just the snare and bass drum in tuinorizn sounds amazing. It sounds very dirty and distorted yet very clean and heavily bassy/all encompassing. Maybe they used some kind of custom analog modular patch for the drums? who knows. It's definitely not a sound that one could easily stumble upon, it took dedication to the craft to come up with it.

Yeah, that first track was really cool sounding to me at first, actually. There was some weird delay or FFT or chorus or big polyphony-stack thing going on of the likes they used in Quaristice that sounded really cool. And then... they didn't do anything with it. And I managed to get tired of it even within

It's possible that the rest of the track won't go anywhere, but i doubt it...it sounds literally like the intro. My guess is that it will evolve.

I swear to god I'll pistol whip the next person who says actress

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_^utechre

can we have a rolling actress please?

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:21 PM, Awepittance said:

 

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:18 PM, sweepstakes said:

 

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:12 PM, Awepittance said:

i guess my gaze is singularly focused on the sound design aspect, since i can't gather much else from the 30 second samples.

 

the opening track is just really mysterious sounding glitchery, like what effects are they using? It's hard to pin it down right off the bat even after repeated listens. It's this sort of mystery that keeps me hooked on Autechre in general.

 

some of them are less interesting than others, but in general there is always at least 1 mysterious partially un-crackable hard to reverse engineer element of every one of their songs of the last decade. Even just the snare and bass drum in tuinorizn sounds amazing. It sounds very dirty and distorted yet very clean and heavily bassy/all encompassing. Maybe they used some kind of custom analog modular patch for the drums? who knows. It's definitely not a sound that one could easily stumble upon, it took dedication to the craft to come up with it.

Yeah, that first track was really cool sounding to me at first, actually. There was some weird delay or FFT or chorus or big polyphony-stack thing going on of the likes they used in Quaristice that sounded really cool. And then... they didn't do anything with it. And I managed to get tired of it even within

 

 

It's possible that the rest of the track won't go anywhere, but i doubt it...it sounds literally like the intro. My guess is that it will evolve.

 

 

Actress

Are we talking about her ?
https://www.google.at/search?q=actress&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=de&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=9O4KUZyrL4bZtAaKw4CwDw&biw=1288&bih=722&sei=9u4KUeSdDInYtAbKoYDABw

  On 1/31/2013 at 11:15 PM, sweepstakes said:

The one with the chords everyone was getting a boner over.

it's a bit of a stretch for me but I can see where you're coming from. I mean, if that's basically all the track was then i might agree but that's not the way autechre do things. their tracks always progress in style.

I think the shitty quality of the samples could also account for Proswell comparisons.

Nobody likes you actress!

''...even if i I like things to drip over me?!''

Yes, even then.

Yeah, again, I hope so. You could have taken 30 seconds of See on See, though, and basically have the track, depending on which 30 seconds you sampled.

And seriously, it wasn't a stretch. If I'm in the right mood, I might go back through his albums to see which one I was thinking of.

this sasha grey reference has gone over my head

lol, Come on guys, criticism of production techniques and sample quality do not confidence inspire. There's some truth to it, sure, but seriously...