XI year old Autechre Album Released: Exai (WARP234)

Hahaha...sooooo true!

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:07 PM, Awepittance said:

cool so he admits he 'smudges it completely' the same facade all modern electronic shit 'abstract' producers do because they don't have real sound design skills so they have to absolutely soak the music and entire mixdown in shitty effects. Welcome to 2013 guys. At least when you're going to 'smudge' something , do it in an interesting way, not just turn all the dithering effects up to 11.

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 12:22 PM, Fredd-E said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 9:54 AM, Awepittance said:

whatever autechre are doing in these new clips it just puts so many other electronic producers to shame. IT's soaked in a lot of processing and various effects sooooo much better than all these half-assed musicians who just put everything through record crackle filter or bandpass or sonic decimator or fake tape hiss filter. AE wins again. (fuck actress)

Why the hate towards Actress? The last days I've been listening his three albums on Spotify repeatedly and I really like what I'm hearing. It's definitely a style on its own. Sounds fresh. Why comparing it to AE btw? I don't really see the connection.

the connection is that Actress is wrongly described as being unique and original when Autechre knocks so many dicks out of their mouths its not even funny in terms of truly carving their own path instead of being a mashup of other previously existing avant-electronic producers (on RIP i hear Coil, basic channel, aphex and autechre influences blatantly being recycled)

the only 'original' points Actress gets is using all these blatant influences to a 'bedroom hyper compressed 4 track recorder' retro fetishized modern sound that kids love these days. Not terribly original at all, and since the music is so basic and unevolving it actually is shocking to me how excited people are about the music.

*crosses fingers he drops in this thread to face his reckoning*

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:03 PM, Awepittance said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 3:54 PM, sweepstakes said:

I've said it before and I will say it again. R.I.P. > Oversteps.

 

ouch,

major picard face palm on this one. Maybe if Autechre put the whole

album througjh Ableton side chain and shitty crackle filter i wouldnt be

so picard right now

  On 1/29/2013 at 11:44 PM, pixelives said:

 

  On 1/29/2013 at 11:37 PM, disoriental express said:

  On 1/29/2013 at 11:27 PM, pixelives said:

super duper feeling deco Loc right now. Bladerunnerlores, tuinorizn, T ess xi are superduper too... deco Loc has the sickest vocal sample

 

can't wait to hear it! what kinda vocal is it? talking or completely insane or wha?

the first one (there's two) sounds like some fucked up male choir, but it kind of sounds like an RnB phrasing. It's ducking to the kick drum. The other is a hip hop sounding one. one word, but you can't tell what it is obviously.

 

first one could be a vocal synthesis pad tho

I assume sidechain compression and ducking are basically the same thing?

Yes.

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:15 PM, Vilwx said:

 

I assume sidechain compression and ducking are basically the same thing?

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:15 PM, Vilwx said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:03 PM, Awepittance said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 3:54 PM, sweepstakes said:

I've said it before and I will say it again. R.I.P. > Oversteps.

 

ouch,

major picard face palm on this one. Maybe if Autechre put the whole

album througjh Ableton side chain and shitty crackle filter i wouldnt be

so picard right now

 

 

  pixelives said:

 

  On 1/29/2013 at 11:37 PM, disoriental express said:

  On 1/29/2013 at 11:27 PM, pixelives said:

super duper feeling deco Loc right now. Bladerunnerlores, tuinorizn, T ess xi are superduper too... deco Loc has the sickest vocal sample

can't wait to hear it! what kinda vocal is it? talking or completely insane or wha?

the first one (there's two) sounds like some fucked up male choir, but it kind of sounds like an RnB phrasing. It's ducking to the kick drum. The other is a hip hop sounding one. one word, but you can't tell what it is obviously.

 

first one could be a vocal synthesis pad tho

I assume sidechain compression and ducking are basically the same thing?

 

sort of, ducking is used more as like those shitty chav sounding Dubstep DJ hosts who talk waaay too fucking much while a tune is playing and the music gets really silent whenever they utter a syllable from their crooked teeth mouths.

side chaining has traditionally been used in music production to eliminate the competing frequency dynamics, usually of a kick drum with a bassline. The kick will 'push' out of the way the bass line tone for the moment the drum hits. More recently though it's been used and popularized as a pumping and breathing rhythmic effect, where someone like Flying lotus will use a pad sound or voice sample thats being constantly ducked as part of a rhythm in the song. It's always been a round, but in the last 7 years or so people have taken it to the utter extreme. Andy Stott is another good example of making an entire sound based around side chaining

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:15 PM, Awepittance said:

truly carving their own path instead of being a mashup of other previously existing avant-electronic producers (on RIP i hear Coil, basic channel, aphex and autechre influences blatantly being recycled)

Huh? I have definitely heard all those influences on recent Autechre as well.

The thing to me with artists like Actress is that the music constantly reminds you that it's just some dude fucking around with bullshit in his room.

I'd rather just do that myself instead of listen to someone else do it.

ae seldom give me that sensation.

boner is kill

you've heard the influences peppered in there, but it doesnt completely define their sound. In the case of actress, you can pin down each track as being very similar all around to each of the influences ive described. One song sounds like a Coil track straight off Unnatural history, one song sounds like a Selected Ambient Works 2 song, one song sounds like an older AE remix, one song sounds like a basic channel 12", etc.

but ill cut them some slack in the sense that AE in the past were taking cues from Aphex, sometimes a little too strongly. Maybe eventually in a decade or so Actress will become truly avant garde himself

I remember when this thread were back in double figure page numbers, and we were all anticipating 100 pages being the big finale.

Back when Pixelives were waiting for his promo to arrive in the post.

Back before Obel was a moderator.

Back when we just found out the track lengths and all communally jizzed over bladelores being so long....

Trying to find QR codes in the artwork.

Loads of stuff happened back then.

Pages 101 - 196 is basically just shit whining and frustrated fanboys fapping into cups and whinging that nobody has leaked this fucker yet.

production skills are not a necessary requirement for making good music

Autechre is Autechre because we can easily distinguish real leak from a fake one ¨¨ FULL STOP

  On 1/31/2013 at 7:28 PM, eugene said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 6:54 PM, xox said:

The first time Ae sounds better on headphones. Those samples sounds perfect (having in mind compression and everything) on my AudioTechnica ATH-M50 phones...even better than on PMC TB2A speakers and that's really rare, not sure if it's a good thing but it's rare.

 

I almost 100% certain they have one of these phones:

 

- Sennheiser HD 650

- Beyerdynamic DT 880

- AudioTechnica ATH-M50

 

Yes, statistically these phones are the most used in pro audio world but...not everybody likes them.

 

Although ATH-M50 are closed-back design, DT 880 semi-open and HD 650 open design they all have very similar freq response...almost identical. The use of reverb makes me believe they use canes with closed-back design, maybe even Beyerdynamic DT770.

 

 

edit: people are weird

 

hd650 and dt 880 are listening headphones, not monitors. do pro audio people produce/mix/master stuff on headphones that are slightly eq'ed to begin with ?

I have the hd650s and I personally don't think they sound all that much like the dt 880s that I've heard, but for that matter, there are a number of variations of that Beyerdynamic headphone and people swear that they all sound different.

Autechre usually sounds good on the hd650s to me. I don't think the samples sound perfect, though. They sound like what they are, low-bitrate samples.

The 650s are natural sounding for listening, but they definitely aren't dead flat studio monitors (nor are they intended to be). I've heard of a few pros who use them as references, but not exclusively, and not at the initial mixing/mastering stages.

With all respect to xox, I think ye might be stretching a bit much here.

Hm, I am just not hearing it. I just found R.I.P. more interesting and enjoyable on many levels. I know I'm in the minority.

Keep in mind 2 things:

1) until Oversteps I was a huge Ae fanboy

2) I did not bring up Actress, I am just getting sick of people trashing him and then exalting what Ae have made lately.

I think on this forum it is a given that Ae > any field of artists you want to compare them to. Loving the best, doesn't prevent enjoying the rest, unless the rest start to pretend they are in the same league.

  On 1/31/2013 at 6:14 PM, lumpenprol said:

their quality control has slipped....potentially.

i think this is a good point. i like both quaristice and oversteps, but i think they are both a bit mediocre for autechre and the main problem was editing. if they had left off the worst 3-5 tracks from each, the albums would have been much improved (and the same is not true for any of their other albums). this actually makes me a little uncertain about the double-album idea, which is sad because otherwise it's great news

hopefully my worries are unfounded; a double-album of top quality autechre would be a dream come true

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:30 PM, feltcher said:

I remember when this thread were back in double figure page numbers, and we were all anticipating 100 pages being the big finale.

 

Back when Pixelives were waiting for his promo to arrive in the post.

Back before Obel was a moderator.

Back when we just found out the track lengths and all communally jizzed over bladelores being so long....

Trying to find QR codes in the artwork.

Loads of stuff happened back then.

 

Pages 101 - 196 is basically just shit whining and frustrated fanboys fapping into cups and whinging that nobody has leaked this fucker yet.

 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

 

Sean/Rob/Plz

 

those were the day.

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:03 PM, Awepittance said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 3:54 PM, sweepstakes said:

I've said it before and I will say it again. R.I.P. > Oversteps.

 

ouch, major picard face palm on this one. Maybe if Autechre put the whole album througjh Ableton side chain and shitty crackle filter i wouldnt be so picard right now

I think you have Actress all wrong dude. Just take a listen to the remix of see on see he released for free on Twitter a while back. I can assure you there's so much to more to him than sidechain and crackle filter. And because I'm so nice, I've attached it to this post rather than make you Google it.

see on see (Actress Remix).mp3Fetching info...

lol, what a masterpiece.

lol.

It's weird being on the other side of the rabid fanboy divide.

Not as fun, actually.

re: Aserinsky

LOLLOLOL, your sarcasm made my day so hard, holy shit wtf

edit : thats a fake track made by you right? if so great job, holy shit still laughing

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:37 PM, grue said:

 

  On 1/31/2013 at 6:14 PM, lumpenprol said:

their quality control has slipped....potentially.

 

i think this is a good point. i like both quaristice and oversteps, but i think they are both a bit mediocre for autechre and the main problem was editing. if they had left off the worst 3-5 tracks from each, the albums would have been much improved (and the same is not true for any of their other albums). this actually makes me a little uncertain about the double-album idea, which is sad because otherwise it's great news

 

hopefully my worries are unfounded; a double-album of top quality autechre would be a dream come true

But - Quadrange was my favourite part of the Quaristice experience, and of all the stuff released then, it was easily the most indulgent and disposable. There are tracks I dislike on all their releases - granted, a few more than usual on Oversteps and Quari, but given the sheer variety of their invention that's a small price to pay.

<p>i am in disbelief, even if you sent me a christina aguelera glitched auto-tune acapella with wood block/side stick beats put through a record crackle filter as a joke, it still wouldn't have been as funny as this. my god<br />

<br />

and you're right, there is much more to him than that, add on 60 second reverb to my list. IT's almost like he forgot that the original song was playing in the background with the key/chord changes and just instead decided to keep doing the same melodies for the whole song regardless of the different in melody playing behind it, baffling to say the least</p>

  On 1/31/2013 at 10:40 PM, Awepittance said:

re: Aserinsky

 

LOLLOLOL, your sarcasm made my day so hard, holy shit wtf

 

edit : thats a fake track made by you right? if so great job, holy shit still laughing

Both hilarious and strangely enjoyable.

just the utter disregard for the change in the original melody in the song is lol enough, but add the vacuum full on side chain and you basically have given me a mushroom-style perma grin for the entire rest of my day