Guest yikes Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 i hate america,guns and most so called human beings there is no god or anything remotely resembling order,reason or hope. fuck this shit BRUNSWICK, Ga. — In five years, Sherry West has lost two sons to unspeakable violence. The Georgia mother was grieving from Thursday's shooting death of her 13-month-old son in his stroller during an attempted robbery while they took a morning stroll. In 2008, her 18-year-old son was stabbed in an altercation in New Jersey. A pair of teenagers was arrested Friday in the most recent shooting. West had just been to the post office a few blocks from her apartment Thursday morning and was pushing her son, Antonio, in his stroller while they walked past gnarled oak trees and blooming azaleas in the coastal city of Brunswick. West said a tall, skinny teenager, accompanied by a smaller boy, asked her for money. "He asked me for money and I said I didn't have it," she told The Associated Press on Friday from her apartment, which was scattered with her son's toys and movies. "When you have a baby, you spend all your money on babies. They're expensive. And he kept asking and I just said `I don't have it.' And he said, `Do you want me to kill your baby?' And I said, `No, don't kill my baby!'" One of the teens fired four shots, grazing West's ear and striking her in the leg, before he walked around to the stroller and shot the baby in the face. Seventeen-year-old De'Marquis Elkins is charged as an adult with first-degree murder, along with a 14-year-old who was not identified because he is a juvenile, Police Chief Tobe Green said. It wasn't immediately clear whether the boys had attorneys. Police announced the arrest Friday afternoon after combing school records and canvassing neighborhoods searching for the pair. The chief said the motive of the "horrendous act" was still under investigation and the weapon had not been found. "I feel glad that justice will be served," West said. "It's not something I'm going to live with very well. I'm just glad they caught him." West said detectives showed her mugshots of about 24 young men. She pointed to one, saying he looked like the gunman. "After I picked him, they said they had him in custody," West said. "It looked just like him. So I think we got our man." West said she thought the other suspect looked much younger: "That little boy did not look 14." The slaying happened around the corner from West's apartment in the city's Old Town historic district. It's a street lined with grand Victorian homes from the late 1800s. Most have been neatly restored by their owners. Others, with faded and flaking paint, have been divided into rental units like the apartment West shared with her son. The slain boy's father, Luis Santiago, lives in a house across the street. A neighbor dropped off a fruit basket and then a hot pot of coffee Friday as a friend from the post office dropped by to comfort West. Santiago came and went. At one point he scooped up an armload of his son's stuffed animals, saying he wanted to take them home with him. He talked about Antonio's first birthday on Feb. 5 and how they had tried different party hats on the boy. "He's all right," Santiago told the boy's mother, trying to smile. "He's potty training upstairs in heaven." West said her son was walking well on his own and eight of his teeth had come in. But she also mourned the milestones that will never come, like Antonio's first day at school. "I'm always going to wonder what his first word would be," West said. Beverly Anderson, whose husband owns the property where West has lived for several years, said she was stunned by the violence in what's generally known as a safe neighborhood where children walk to school and families are frequently outdoors. Jonathan Mayes and his wife were out walking their dogs Friday, right past the crime scene, and said they've never felt nervous about being out after dark. "What is so mind-numbing about this is we don't have this kind of stuff happen here," Mayes said. It's not the mother's first loss of a child to violence. West said her 18-year-old son, Shaun Glassey, was killed in New Jersey in 2008. She still has a newspaper clipping from the time. Glassey was killed with a steak knife in March 2008 during an attack involving several other teens on a dark street corner in Gloucester County, N.J., according to news reports from the time. "He and some other boys were going to ambush a kid," Bernie Weisenfeld, a spokesman for the Gloucester County prosecutor's office, told the AP Friday. Glassey was armed with a knife, but the 17-year-old target of the attack was able to get the knife away from him "and Glassey ended up on the wrong end of the knife," Weisenfeld recalled. Prosecutors decided the 17-year-old would not be charged because they determined that he acted in self-defense. Sabrina Elkins, the sister of the older suspect in the Georgia baby's slaying, said Friday evening that she believed her brother was innocent of the charges. She didn't know whether he had a lawyer. "He couldn't have done that to a little baby," she told AP. "My brother has a good heart." She said that her brother had been living in Atlanta, and only returned to Brunswick a few months ago. Typically, he would come by her house in the morning and they'd go to breakfast. But Friday morning, police came to her door as her brother was approaching along the sidewalk. "The police came pointing a Taser at him, telling him to get on the ground," she recalled by phone. "He said, `What are you getting me for? Can you tell me what I did?'" Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-1973145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieBees Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 if that baby had a gun maybe thsi wouldnt have happened in the first place Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide RichieBees's signature Hide all signatures sigunrute Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-1973150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest yikes Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 if you were an abortion you would not be able to use the internet….. *sighs Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-1973151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cear Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cear's signature Hide all signatures Я твой слуга, Я твой работник Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-1973978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinemask Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 On 3/22/2013 at 8:52 AM, John Ehrlichman said: Don't know how I got here, but this video is fucking gold. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide machinemask's signature Hide all signatures MOPFUNK ~~ I will endure to the end ~~ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-1975405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 On 3/23/2013 at 3:14 PM, RichieBees said: if that baby had a gun maybe thsi wouldnt have happened in the first place Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-1975407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattern recognition Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 after stabbing injures 14 at texas college, one student laments, "we wish we could protect ourselves with guns" http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/9/after-texas-stabbing-student-laments-we-wish-we-co/#.UWR5R7oPFGc.twitter this country is over, i'm afraid. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-1981807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieBees Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 haha i love the smug yank gun loving pussys who are all like UHHH UHHH THEY KILLED WITHA KNIFE WHY DONT U BAN KNIVES OBAMA ?!?!?!?!!?!? fucking nice 1 guys Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide RichieBees's signature Hide all signatures sigunrute Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-1981815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambermonk Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 On 4/9/2013 at 10:32 PM, pattern recognition said: after stabbing injures 14 at texas college, one student laments, "we wish we could protect ourselves with guns" http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/9/after-texas-stabbing-student-laments-we-wish-we-co/#.UWR5R7oPFGc.twitter this country is over, i'm afraid. Then we must use shurikens for protection. Well, I could see weeaboo otaku geeks using them at least. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ambermonk's signature Hide all signatures On 10/21/2015 at 9:51 AM, peace 7 said: To keep it real and analog, I'm gonna start posting to WATMM by writing my posts in fountain pen on hemp paper, putting them in bottles, and throwing them into the ocean. On 11/5/2013 at 7:51 PM, Sean Ae said: you have to watch those silent people, always trying to trick you with their silence Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-1981817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) What if RichieBees is a conspiracy? Edited April 9, 2013 by Ceerial Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Npoess's signature Hide all signatures │ Tumblr │ Last.fm │ Soundcloud │ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-1981819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 On 3/28/2013 at 8:36 PM, david said: On 3/23/2013 at 3:14 PM, RichieBees said: if that baby had a gun maybe thsi wouldnt have happened in the first place oh lol fuck me what was the name of that youtube channel? so hilarious Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-1981972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky0ovnfosPo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 v. interesting Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) That one interviewer dude sounds so high. Adam sounds like a squirrelly guy though. Interesting story nevertheless. Dude has some mother issues from what I could tell. Makes it all the more reasonable to lash out in some unfathomable manner the way he did. Then again, still a lot of questions surrounding the Sandy Hook shooting. Mostly crackpot theories though. It's just so hard to imagine these kinds of things.. maybe I just don't want to. Edited January 16, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 wow, interesting indeed thanks for posting. kinda confirms my feeling that his environment contributed to him turning into a "mass shooter". and it's not a feeling which gives any comfort! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Oh come the fuck on chimpanzees do not socialize in anything like the same way humans do. To insinuate that they do is an insult to chimpanzees. Jane Goodall's opinion on Travis: http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/25/opinion/oe-goodall25 To compare what the chimpanzee did to the acts of a mass murderer is something I would characterize as delusional. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimpyLoo Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) I think the Xanax negates any parallels that could possibly be drawn lol "I don't understand what possibly went wrong...we were feeding Travis this stuff that causes dis-inhibition and agitation and..." Edited January 17, 2014 by LimpyLoo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 damn he sounds autistic/aspergerry as fuuuck Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenGOD Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 On 1/17/2014 at 12:01 AM, LimpyLoo said: I think the Xanax negates any parallels that could possibly be drawn lol "I don't understand what possibly went wrong...we were feeding Travis this stuff that causes dis-inhibition and agitation and..." That definitely cannot be counted out. It seems like his owner had given it to him for the first time the morning of the incident? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures 백호야~~~항상에 사랑할거예요.나의 아들. Shout outs to the saracens, musulmen and celestials. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apriorion Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I recently watched a PBS Frontline special about this called "Raising Adam Lanza". It was also interesting. More importantly, though, is the fact that THIS was the thread that had that hilarious "Mind=Blown" video. I was looking around for it and couldn't find it the other day. Isn't that the same guy with the immature prank on TEDx? This is important. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptowen Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 On 1/17/2014 at 2:55 AM, apriorion said: Isn't that the same guy with the immature prank on TEDx? This is important.yeah it's Sam Hyde of MDE fame Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cryptowen's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 On 1/17/2014 at 2:55 AM, apriorion said: I recently watched a PBS Frontline special about this called "Raising Adam Lanza". It was also interesting. More importantly, though, is the fact that THIS was the thread that had that hilarious "Mind=Blown" video. I was looking around for it and couldn't find it the other day. Isn't that the same guy with the immature prank on TEDx? This is important. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc5wkQm6B44 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDel Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 On 1/16/2014 at 11:59 PM, chenGOD said: Oh come the fuck on chimpanzees do not socialize in anything like the same way humans do. To insinuate that they do is an insult to chimpanzees. Jane Goodall's opinion on Travis: http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/25/opinion/oe-goodall25 To compare what the chimpanzee did to the acts of a mass murderer is something I would characterize as delusional. The point is not about him being right or wrong, imo. It's more about him being able to articulate a different point of view in the way he did. Apart from the, imo, superficialities of sounding like a robot and what not. He showed he could tell a story with an interesting point of view and with a sense of emotional awareness which I wouldnt expect from someone who is labelled as assburgers. (Also note that assburgers doesnt explain mass shooters. It might even be the opposite: if he would be assburgers indeed, he wouldnt have become a mass shooter. ...wasnt this already mentioned in this thread?) What makes it more interesting is those pictures of his room and those stories how he was basically locked away from the outside world. Either from his own will, or forced even perhaps. In the media the frame is that it's from his own will, but if you take another frame, the entire story can shift into another direction quite easily. And who am I, or who is the media, to make assumptions about any of it? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 was he on SSRI anti depressants? a lesser known side effect of some of those, and i've only heard this anecdotally is that for some people it can feel like a very low threshold dose of mushrooms or LSD, which might explain his sort of Joe Rogan like breakthrough during such a tumultuous and rough patch in his life, or maybe he got really high one day thinking about all this stuff Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebraska Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) adam lanza was also a member of a forum for a role playing game based on the columbine high school shooting where he ranted about "hunter gatherers" being on antidepressants and such (similar to anarchist phone call rant) before he went on his killing rampage though, he went back and deleted all his posts Edited January 17, 2014 by Nebraska Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/76867-school-shooting-in-connecticut/page/41/#findComment-2116847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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