Max/MSP

I actually moved from PD fo Max since Max let's me start having fun faster than PD, but both are essentially the absolute same, Max being just easier to use.

At the end people should think what they can do with the tool, instead of what the tool can do for them. Jeskola Buzz would shit on both Max and PD in the right hands, for example, yo.

  On 6/29/2024 at 5:53 PM, d-a-m-o said:

Based on what ? 

It has much bigger compability with operating systems. You can even use it on Raspberry Pi.
You can also create your own hardware controllers, synthesizers etc.. 
PD works with hardware synths like Norns, Organelle, Many eurorack modules like Rebel Technolygy, Befaco etc..

I heard also other arguments on how structures of the sources within Max was more locked in a specific way than PD (This long argument I remember reading from 1 user in a forum but I can't seem to find the comment right now, excuse me for that.) 
I Also heard some say it is smoother for making music faster on the go. 

Not try to make any battle here.. I just telling u what experienced users of both programs have told me. 

I still doing instruments in Max but I sample it for using in DAW later. I can't manage to create a DAW's inside Max for now.. To complicated for my brain. 

I like these videos cause dude made a lot from a really simple patch...i enjoyed it

  On 6/29/2024 at 7:11 PM, cern said:

It has much bigger compability with operating systems. You can even use it on Raspberry Pi.
You can also create your own hardware controllers, synthesizers etc.. 
PD works with hardware synths like Norns, Organelle, Many eurorack modules like Rebel Technolygy, Befaco etc..

I heard also other arguments on how structures of the sources within Max was more locked in a specific way than PD (This long argument I remember reading from 1 user in a forum but I can't seem to find the comment right now, excuse me for that.) 
I Also heard some say it is smoother for making music faster on the go. 

Not try to make any battle here.. I just telling u what experienced users of both programs have told me. 

I still doing instruments in Max but I sample it for using in DAW later. I can't manage to create a DAW's inside Max for now.. To complicated for my brain. 

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Yeah I'm just asking because usually, skilled PD users tend to switch to Max (I guess because of the pretty look and the stability of Max , obviously, there's probably other reasons) First example that come to mind is Synalegg (but maybe he's still using PD in parallel ?) you can also use RNBO on Raspberry Pi.

oh shit - synalegg is sick....great tunes

Synalegg has fully switched to Max FWIW.
RNBO is neat, even if you're a vanilla Max user like me : exporting your abstractions to its own object is really handy, and I believe more CPU optimized.
And M4L

Max has incredible documentation included, that's also a deciding factor IMO if one must choose. I suppose the user community for both PD and Max is equally eager to share knowledge.

  On 6/30/2024 at 4:11 PM, Nil said:

Synalegg has fully switched to Max FWIW.
RNBO is neat, even if you're a vanilla Max user like me : exporting your abstractions to its own object is really handy, and I believe more CPU optimized.
And M4L

Max has incredible documentation included, that's also a deciding factor IMO if one must choose. I suppose the user community for both PD and Max is equally eager to share knowledge.

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Don't think i have ever encountered better documentation with anything

i love maxmsp

  On 6/30/2024 at 8:17 AM, Crazing said:

I like these videos cause dude made a lot from a really simple patch...i enjoyed it

 

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good stuff

do you guys like to use laptop or pc for music production ?

  On 6/30/2024 at 5:10 PM, Wunderbar said:

do you guys like to use laptop or pc for music production ?

You need a mac for your ableton white space and perfect natural window view

This guy says he's been learning max for two years - honestly it would take me forever to even graze the surface of what he does in a year or 2

  On 7/4/2024 at 7:26 AM, Crazing said:

You need a mac for your ableton white space and perfect natural window view

what does this mean.

  On 6/30/2024 at 9:47 AM, d-a-m-o said:

(I guess because of the pretty look and the stability of Max , obviously, there's probably other reasons)

There is plugdata now which has pretty look too and works as vst3 or clap afaik but stability and compatibility are not so good yet.

  On 7/4/2024 at 12:18 PM, Wunderbar said:

what does this mean.

Cheeky reference to the stereotypical Max patcherer-er.

In reply to your question:

sum experiments https://archive.org/details/rec-24.07.06-02h-02m-40s

  On 7/4/2024 at 7:26 AM, Crazing said:

You need a mac for your ableton white space and perfect natural window view

This guy says he's been learning max for two years - honestly it would take me forever to even graze the surface of what he does in a year or 2

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Just realised that this guy basically watched some of Hearing Glass's tutorials and hacked shit together - nonetheless sounds great
 

  On 7/9/2024 at 7:14 PM, Crazing said:

Just realised that this guy basically watched some of Hearing Glass's tutorials and hacked shit together - nonetheless sounds great
 

 

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I swear I got these kinda sounds in around 5 minutes with Fors Opal earlier this day (Module which is made in Max)  However nice! 

They look like nice devices 

I don't know why this means so much to me - however - cant for the life of me work out how to bang through randomly generated 3 chord lists of midi notes in coll to play a 6 voice poly object synth.....how the f do i get the lists in there to actually play the chord...right now just get one note at a time

  On 10/29/2023 at 2:15 AM, exitonly said:

Hi everyone. I posted some videos of some Max/MSP and Supercollider patches that I used on my last album. Theres more videos in the playlist, only embedding a couple-

 

 

 

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These are great!

  On 7/15/2024 at 7:48 PM, Crazing said:

I don't know why this means so much to me - however - cant for the life of me work out how to bang through randomly generated 3 chord lists of midi notes in coll to play a 6 voice poly object synth.....how the f do i get the lists in there to actually play the chord...right now just get one note at a time

Hmm I'd try generating a random value to then call the corresponding [coll] entry ? Also, [dict] is worth investing, powerful stuff.

Another option would be to transform chords (which are lists of integers) to symbols with [tosymbol], to store them in list, and then to use [zl.lookup] to call random items from the list and transform them back to list with [fromsymbol] ? I like [zl]

  On 7/15/2024 at 8:53 PM, Nil said:

Hmm I'd try generating a random value to then call the corresponding [coll] entry ? Also, [dict] is worth investing, powerful stuff.

Another option would be to transform chords (which are lists of integers) to symbols with [tosymbol], to store them in list, and then to use [zl.lookup] to call random items from the list and transform them back to list with [fromsymbol] ? I like [zl]

Thanks

I've got the lists from coll no problem. 

Just poly~ not accepting multiple notes at once 

oh. I've used [poly~] for sequencing, not synthesis. [mc.target] saved my ass quite a few time, so I suppose you could unpack the chord list and then send each note to its own [poly~] voice ?

I watched a few C74 vids not so long ago on how to handle polyphony with RNBO, and while I'm not 100% sure about that, I believe they share common grounds with [poly~] in that regard.

The (new?) mtof scale options are insane....find of the day