A pair of explosions rocks the finish line at the Boston Marathon, injuring at least a half-dozen people.

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While in the U.S., the brothers received welfare benefits.

The Office of Health and Human Services in Massachusetts confirmed a Boston Herald report Wednesday that Tamerlan, his wife and daughter had received welfare benefits up until last year, when he became ineligible based on family income.

The state also says Tamerlan and his brother received welfare benefits as children through their parents while the family lived in Massachusetts.

Neither was receiving benefits at the time of the bombing.

 

what utter wastes of DNA, those two

  On 4/26/2013 at 2:08 AM, lumpenprol said:

 

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While in the U.S., the brothers received welfare benefits.

The Office of Health and Human Services in Massachusetts confirmed a Boston Herald report Wednesday that Tamerlan, his wife and daughter had received welfare benefits up until last year, when he became ineligible based on family income.

The state also says Tamerlan and his brother received welfare benefits as children through their parents while the family lived in Massachusetts.

Neither was receiving benefits at the time of the bombing.

 

what utter wastes of DNA, those two

People on welfare should be euthanized so they don't inconvenience society.

no. but people on welfare shouldnt have prada shoes and drive Mercedes.

  On 4/26/2013 at 2:08 AM, lumpenprol said:

 

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While in the U.S., the brothers received welfare benefits.

The Office of Health and Human Services in Massachusetts confirmed a Boston Herald report Wednesday that Tamerlan, his wife and daughter had received welfare benefits up until last year, when he became ineligible based on family income.

The state also says Tamerlan and his brother received welfare benefits as children through their parents while the family lived in Massachusetts.

Neither was receiving benefits at the time of the bombing.

 

what utter wastes of DNA, those two

 

no joke, Rush Limbaugh and the right media are trying to use this to blame the bombing on Democrats.

Dead serious. I wish I was joking.

  On 4/26/2013 at 2:48 AM, A/D said:

Can't tell if joking. Interesting detail either way, as I am a big believer in poverty fostering desperation.

 

  On 4/26/2013 at 5:06 AM, jules said:

no. but people on welfare shouldnt have prada shoes and drive Mercedes.

thanks jules for making my point

I do not self-identify as a Republican but I'm pissed at those two punks (particularly the older bro).

Come to America, act like a total douche, get a hot gf (wife? I forget), convince her to convert to Islam but then beat her, act like wiggers but then moan about how you just can't understand Americans, get on welfare but drive a Mercedes, etc. Even their late-adoption-anti-Americanism seems like more of a fashion-statement than something bone-deep.

The just seem like total punks.

And didn't the 9/11 hijackers go to Vegas not long before they crashed the planes? I just cannot understand the deep hypocrisy of these nutjobs. They want to enjoy all the hedonism (and financial support) available in the US, and then blow everything up. It's like a priest self-flagellating after enjoying a good wank, but 100 times worse.

Imo, there's a bit of bad parenthood involved. Sounds like a stretch perhaps, but please bear with me.

Interestingly those parents cried their kids were set up. Everyone could understand the initial denial, but in the end you have to face the fact that those bombs were detonated and those kids were in a firefight with the police. From what was told in the media, it's odd to have no " we feel for the losses of the families involved" response from their parents, but instead some conspiracy story signalling they and their kids carry no responsibility whatsoever. Comes off immensely narcissistic, imo. It explains quite a bit when you consider these kids were brought up by narcissistic parents.

it wasn't Vegas, it was a strip bar in their area. They also comically left a Quran at the bar like a scene out of 4 lions

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a091101beforepinkpony

this is one of the best websites on the entire internet, it's a comprehensive timeline of pretty much any news article revolving around the event on 9/11

@John/Awe:

Nice site!

I have a new theory, that these guys only decided to go through with their actions after they tried to get laid in the US but failed. Somewhere there's probably a hooker who called these guys "towelheads" or said their "manhood smells like hummus" and unwittingly set the stage for 9/11 and the Boston bombings:

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9/11 hijackers Hamza Alghamdi and Marwan Alshehhi make two purchases of “pornographic video and sex toys” from a Florida store. They spend $252.17 on videos and toys at Video Outlet in Deerfield Beach on July 4, then return on July 27 and spend another $183.22. [FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, 10/2001, PP. 176, 178, 196, 198 ] These two and other hijackers are also reported to attend strip shows, watch porn, and use an escort service (see Before September 11, 2001 andSeptember 7-11, 2001).

 

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In the days before the attacks, some of the hijackers (including Waleed Alshehri and/or Wail Alshehri) apparently sleep with prostitutes in Boston hotel rooms, or at least try to do so.

 

lol, bit of a stretch

  On 4/26/2013 at 2:08 AM, lumpenprol said:

While in the U.S., the brothers received welfare benefits.

The Office of Health and Human Services in Massachusetts confirmed a Boston Herald report Wednesday that Tamerlan, his wife and daughter had received welfare benefits up until last year, when he became ineligible based on family income.

The state also says Tamerlan and his brother received welfare benefits as children through their parents while the family lived in Massachusetts.

Neither was receiving benefits at the time of the bombing.

 

what utter wastes of DNA, those two

I don't understand how this is made worse by the fact that they were poor.

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that wasn't my point, Sir Iain

it sorta feels like saying

'they were chewing Trident gum'

in the past few days i've really come around to the idea that these two were just irredeemable pieces of shit.

Their uncle hit the nail on the head perhaps?

Saying they're simply terrible human beings--while true IMO--doesn't answer the sorts of questions that I'm curious about.

It's like a malfunctioning machine. We know that it has malfunctioned, but now we want to know why? Did someone drop it? Was it built incorrectly?

I recently watched part of a Jeffrey Dahmer interview, and IMO it was pretty clear how be become how he was. As much as he was responsible for his actions, childhood stress and trauma pointed him in that direction. The interesting thing IMO is that all serial killers seem to have some crucial factors in common.

Now of course we could debate Free Will til the end of time but the question remains why they were compelled (in whatever sense, on whatever level) to do this.

  On 4/26/2013 at 5:06 AM, jules said:

no. but people on welfare shouldnt have prada shoes and drive Mercedes.

The wellfare-queen myth is still alive and well I see.

  On 4/26/2013 at 9:16 AM, azatoth said:

 

  On 4/26/2013 at 5:06 AM, jules said:

no. but people on welfare shouldnt have prada shoes and drive Mercedes.

 

The wellfare-queen myth is still alive and well I see.

 

no, he actually saw the photo of the guy wearing prada shoes and standing in front of his Mercedes

truth is, the people here who are saying they were douchey pieces of shit (self included) have probably been paying attention to all the details. And the details point in the direction of: douchey pieces of shit.

  On 4/26/2013 at 9:38 AM, lumpenprol said:

 

truth is, the people here who are saying they were douchey pieces of shit (self included) have probably been paying attention to all the details. And the details point in the direction of: douchey pieces of shit.

 

yes but why were they douchey pieces of shit?

hmm, scrounging under the cushions in my sofa to see if I can find any lint-covered fucks to give as to why

we can blame society or american culture or whatever displacement they may have felt being immigrants but that shouldn't and doesn't discount personal responsibility. i'm still a little more empathetic toward the younger brother because of his age but even then, after reading a lot more about them, i can only conclude that he's, as his uncle put it, a loser. there are plenty of young ethnic american males who feel anger toward the establishment and are compelled not to physical violence but instead the intellectual combat found in academia. he could have done any number of things to help whatever cause he thought he had, from pursuing a career in politics or international affairs to working as a humanitarian. part of being an american, and really a citizen of any first world country with a vaguely democratic government, is that you have options. these guys didn't give themselves any and that's their own fault.

society and culture is a cluster fuck of mismatched parts and loose ends and everyones soul is in danger of corruption

it would be interesting to see a criminal profiler breakdown of the mentality of a killer who has never killed before doing some kind of mass civilian attack while cameras are rolling. It seems to reflect a sort of more 'juvenile' criminal mind compared to someone like Jeffery Dahmer, who truly loved what he was doing more than the attention he eventually got for it.

I guess I'm late to the party, have they released any hard evidence yet that proves they are guilty? Even something like an interview with the dude who has his SUV hijacked would suffice.

  On 4/26/2013 at 9:46 AM, zaphod said:

we can blame society or american culture or whatever displacement they may have felt being immigrants but that shouldn't and doesn't discount personal responsibility. i'm still a little more empathetic toward the younger brother because of his age but even then, after reading a lot more about them, i can only conclude that he's, as his uncle put it, a loser. there are plenty of young ethnic american males who feel anger toward the establishment and are compelled not to physical violence but instead the intellectual combat found in academia. he could have done any number of things to help whatever cause he thought he had, from pursuing a career in politics or international affairs to working as a humanitarian. part of being an american, and really a citizen of any first world country with a vaguely democratic government, is that you have options. these guys didn't give themselves any and that's their own fault.

No-one is trying to offset personal responsibility.

it's just that 'they're terrible people' doesn't appease my curiosity about why this stuff happens in this world.

Psychologically, neurologically, biochemically, sociologically, genetically, etc...there is a reason they are terrible people. I find it bizarre that people have paid so much attention to all this and now have lost any curiosity about the 'why?' underneath it, which IMO is the most important information to be gleamed from this whole ordeal.

And as I said, just saying they're terrible people isn't useful in that regard.

does any video footage exist of the 19 year old's actual arrest? I saw a still picture of him standing up outside of the boat with his hands up, he didn't appear to have any bullet wounds. Does the Boston PD claim he was shooting at them?
Did anybody ever explain what type of explosives they allegedly threw out of the car during the chase? Was the suicide vest fear totally bogus maybe from watching too much Homeland?