National Park Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 6:16 PM, baph said: Jesus, varius. I paid significantly more through bleep to purchase the vinyl, and it turns out there was little to no benefit to doing so. My purchase was informed by multiple previous preorders through bleep, and on those occasions bleep performed differently, in a way that garnered my support. Bleep has now reversed the policies that made purchasing through Bleep desirable. As a repeat customer who has given a lot of money to Bleep over the years, I am absolutely entitled to be slightly unhappy with the service I paid for, and entitled to take my business elsewhere the next time. Bleep/Warp can run their business as they see fit, and paying customers can determine whether they see value in those services or not. That's how this works. I don't care about instant gratification. I've held off on listening to any of this material aside from one half-hearted viewing of the reach for the dead video. But when legal digital copies are in the wild, the legal digital copy that I paid for should be made available. Had bleep not done exactly that repeatedly in the past, I would not have purchased through them with the expectation that they would this time. None of the "annoyance" I feel is at a level that would register in my daily life, but this is a thread targeted to the specific circumstances, and it's the appropriate place to discuss it. I'm not angry, I just don't feel any incentive to dole out a bit more money to bleep the next time I preorder an album. jesus. and i thought things in Syria where bad. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 6:21 PM, varius said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:16 PM, baph said: Jesus, varius. I paid significantly more through bleep to purchase the vinyl, and it turns out there was little to no benefit to doing so. My purchase was informed by multiple previous preorders through bleep, and on those occasions bleep performed differently, in a way that garnered my support. Bleep has now reversed the policies that made purchasing through Bleep desirable. As a repeat customer who has given a lot of money to Bleep over the years, I am absolutely entitled to be slightly unhappy with the service I paid for, and entitled to take my business elsewhere the next time. Bleep/Warp can run their business as they see fit, and paying customers can determine whether they see value in those services or not. That's how this works. I don't care about instant gratification. I've held off on listening to any of this material aside from one half-hearted viewing of the reach for the dead video. But when legal digital copies are in the wild, the legal digital copy that I paid for should be made available. Had bleep not done exactly that repeatedly in the past, I would not have purchased through them with the expectation that they would this time. None of the "annoyance" I feel is at a level that would register in my daily life, but this is a thread targeted to the specific circumstances, and it's the appropriate place to discuss it. I'm not angry, I just don't feel any incentive to dole out a bit more money to bleep the next time I preorder an album. jesus. and i thought things in Syria where bad. fuck off back to your high horse. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
danshoebridge Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 I see warp are now encouraging people to go and buy the mp3s from 7digital. I guess they really are trying to avoid total website obliteration. Anyway, screw it, I guess I'll just get the files on torrent. Vinyl is coming directly from the label so I can do it totally guilt free. In fact, I'm doing them a favour... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 i dont care where warp makes it available, but it should have been officially released within 24 hours of it being posted on itunes. more evidence that companies still don't know how to internet and how it affects business process Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 6:22 PM, oscillik said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:21 PM, varius said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:16 PM, baph said: Jesus, varius. I paid significantly more through bleep to purchase the vinyl, and it turns out there was little to no benefit to doing so. My purchase was informed by multiple previous preorders through bleep, and on those occasions bleep performed differently, in a way that garnered my support. Bleep has now reversed the policies that made purchasing through Bleep desirable. As a repeat customer who has given a lot of money to Bleep over the years, I am absolutely entitled to be slightly unhappy with the service I paid for, and entitled to take my business elsewhere the next time. Bleep/Warp can run their business as they see fit, and paying customers can determine whether they see value in those services or not. That's how this works. I don't care about instant gratification. I've held off on listening to any of this material aside from one half-hearted viewing of the reach for the dead video. But when legal digital copies are in the wild, the legal digital copy that I paid for should be made available. Had bleep not done exactly that repeatedly in the past, I would not have purchased through them with the expectation that they would this time. None of the "annoyance" I feel is at a level that would register in my daily life, but this is a thread targeted to the specific circumstances, and it's the appropriate place to discuss it. I'm not angry, I just don't feel any incentive to dole out a bit more money to bleep the next time I preorder an album. jesus. and i thought things in Syria where bad. fuck off back to your high horse. Way to miss the exact point of my post, varius. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
National Park Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 6:32 PM, baph said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:22 PM, oscillik said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:21 PM, varius said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:16 PM, baph said: Jesus, varius. I paid significantly more through bleep to purchase the vinyl, and it turns out there was little to no benefit to doing so. My purchase was informed by multiple previous preorders through bleep, and on those occasions bleep performed differently, in a way that garnered my support. Bleep has now reversed the policies that made purchasing through Bleep desirable. As a repeat customer who has given a lot of money to Bleep over the years, I am absolutely entitled to be slightly unhappy with the service I paid for, and entitled to take my business elsewhere the next time. Bleep/Warp can run their business as they see fit, and paying customers can determine whether they see value in those services or not. That's how this works. I don't care about instant gratification. I've held off on listening to any of this material aside from one half-hearted viewing of the reach for the dead video. But when legal digital copies are in the wild, the legal digital copy that I paid for should be made available. Had bleep not done exactly that repeatedly in the past, I would not have purchased through them with the expectation that they would this time. None of the "annoyance" I feel is at a level that would register in my daily life, but this is a thread targeted to the specific circumstances, and it's the appropriate place to discuss it. I'm not angry, I just don't feel any incentive to dole out a bit more money to bleep the next time I preorder an album. jesus. and i thought things in Syria where bad. fuck off back to your high horse. Way to miss the exact point of my post, varius. i think you missed my point. stop being a baby, go out and enjoy the sunshine. go treat the lady. take the dog for a walk. your precious music will arrive soon. don't cry. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 6:37 PM, varius said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:32 PM, baph said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:22 PM, oscillik said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:21 PM, varius said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:16 PM, baph said: Jesus, varius. I paid significantly more through bleep to purchase the vinyl, and it turns out there was little to no benefit to doing so. My purchase was informed by multiple previous preorders through bleep, and on those occasions bleep performed differently, in a way that garnered my support. Bleep has now reversed the policies that made purchasing through Bleep desirable. As a repeat customer who has given a lot of money to Bleep over the years, I am absolutely entitled to be slightly unhappy with the service I paid for, and entitled to take my business elsewhere the next time. Bleep/Warp can run their business as they see fit, and paying customers can determine whether they see value in those services or not. That's how this works. I don't care about instant gratification. I've held off on listening to any of this material aside from one half-hearted viewing of the reach for the dead video. But when legal digital copies are in the wild, the legal digital copy that I paid for should be made available. Had bleep not done exactly that repeatedly in the past, I would not have purchased through them with the expectation that they would this time. None of the "annoyance" I feel is at a level that would register in my daily life, but this is a thread targeted to the specific circumstances, and it's the appropriate place to discuss it. I'm not angry, I just don't feel any incentive to dole out a bit more money to bleep the next time I preorder an album. jesus. and i thought things in Syria where bad. fuck off back to your high horse. Way to miss the exact point of my post, varius. i think you missed my point. stop being a baby, go out and enjoy the sunshine. go treat the lady. take the dog for a walk. your precious music will arrive soon. don't cry. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YangYing's signature Hide all signatures >>MY MUSIC<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 I specifically said this isn't causing any real emotional distress, it's merely a consumer purchasing decision. You're either missing the point or trying to escalate this, which says a lot more about you than anyone else in this thread. Have fun with that, because I'm blasting some good music and enjoying myself fully at the moment. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 why don't YOU go walk your dog instead of complaining about complaining about legit issues about things other people care about about about Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
National Park Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 it isn't a legit issue. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernFusion Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 6:39 PM, MIXL2 said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:37 PM, varius said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:32 PM, baph said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:22 PM, oscillik said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:21 PM, varius said: On 6/5/2013 at 6:16 PM, baph said: Jesus, varius. I paid significantly more through bleep to purchase the vinyl, and it turns out there was little to no benefit to doing so. My purchase was informed by multiple previous preorders through bleep, and on those occasions bleep performed differently, in a way that garnered my support. Bleep has now reversed the policies that made purchasing through Bleep desirable. As a repeat customer who has given a lot of money to Bleep over the years, I am absolutely entitled to be slightly unhappy with the service I paid for, and entitled to take my business elsewhere the next time. Bleep/Warp can run their business as they see fit, and paying customers can determine whether they see value in those services or not. That's how this works. I don't care about instant gratification. I've held off on listening to any of this material aside from one half-hearted viewing of the reach for the dead video. But when legal digital copies are in the wild, the legal digital copy that I paid for should be made available. Had bleep not done exactly that repeatedly in the past, I would not have purchased through them with the expectation that they would this time. None of the "annoyance" I feel is at a level that would register in my daily life, but this is a thread targeted to the specific circumstances, and it's the appropriate place to discuss it. I'm not angry, I just don't feel any incentive to dole out a bit more money to bleep the next time I preorder an album. jesus. and i thought things in Syria where bad. fuck off back to your high horse. Way to miss the exact point of my post, varius. i think you missed my point. stop being a baby, go out and enjoy the sunshine. go treat the lady. take the dog for a walk. your precious music will arrive soon. don't cry. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide NorthernFusion's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WWBJD Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 6:17 PM, Gocab said: The whole idea of only releasing music to specific regions using the internet is ridiculous. I kept telling myself that the release dates were just for the physical copies, not the digital downloads... and the digital download would be available the day of the first physical release. Seemed logical. Warp/Bleep surely missed out on a great marketing opportunity by not releasing or putting the digital version up for sale after the album stream. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xfxf Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 $10 says in a month none of us will give a crap about this Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide xfxf's signature Hide all signatures user18081971 voting site: http://user18081971.watmm.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zupiclone Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 5:55 PM, theSun said: but it's boc so i figured there would be something stupid and wanky and just fucking stupid about it lol, you're right though. i blame the interns. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 6:17 PM, Gocab said: The whole idea of only releasing music to specific regions using the internet is ridiculous. This. Or is this part of some 90s retro thing going on at Warp? This regional publishing and releasing bullshit needs to stop. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide zkom's signature Hide all signatures electro mini-album Megacity Rainfall "cacas in igne, heus" - Emperor Nero, AD 64 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) No emails from Bleep this morning. I am disappoint. But just to be clear, I walked my dog this morning, took the rail to downtown with the lady, rode my bike the rest of the way (in the sunshine) to my job that pays me well and provides many non-monetary benefits, and will enjoy copious amounts of other great music today and probably some good sunshine during my lunch break. Edited June 5, 2013 by sidewinder Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sidewinder's signature Hide all signatures last.fm | rym | my vinyl on Instagram Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
National Park Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 7:07 PM, sidewinder said: No emails from Bleep this morning. I am disappoint. But just to be clear, I walked my dog this morning, took the rail to downtown with the lady, rode my bike the rest of the way (in the sunshine) to my job that pays me well and provides many non-monetary benefits, and will enjoy copious amounts of other great music today and probably some good sunshine during my lunch break. im really glad. you've done so well and the progress you've made is a positive. maybe try and help the others. who knows, someday we might not even need a BOC album distress support group. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeQYcJWNBz Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 *gets a whole new sense of perspectives he never had before* Man, I just realized it would really suck if you preordered this and you live in Syria. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 7:12 PM, triachus said: *gets a whole new sense of perspectives he never had before* Man, I just realized it would really suck if you preordered this and you live in Syria. fucking lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkom Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide zkom's signature Hide all signatures electro mini-album Megacity Rainfall "cacas in igne, heus" - Emperor Nero, AD 64 Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YangYing Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 7:10 PM, varius said: On 6/5/2013 at 7:07 PM, sidewinder said: No emails from Bleep this morning. I am disappoint. But just to be clear, I walked my dog this morning, took the rail to downtown with the lady, rode my bike the rest of the way (in the sunshine) to my job that pays me well and provides many non-monetary benefits, and will enjoy copious amounts of other great music today and probably some good sunshine during my lunch break. im really glad. you've done so well and the progress you've made is a positive. maybe try and help the others. who knows, someday we might not even need a BOC album distress support group. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YangYing's signature Hide all signatures >>MY MUSIC<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest theSun Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 i will not stop shaking in the fetal position until bleep releases digital downloads Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Poole Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 This is definitely the last time I order physical products from Bleep. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 It is probably the fifth big release by Warp I can think of that disappoints everybody here, yet nobody seems to have learned their lesson. Since when do you really wait for the official release while the leaked files are out in the wild? I blame your impatience for pre-ordering from the first website that accepts pre-orders for Tomorrow's Harvest. It might be too bad for Warp, but it does not affect your experience of the album in any significant way. And how is Warp supposed to estimate the arrival date of the shipments around the world? Everybody seems pissed if their precious copies don't stand at their doorstep by Monday. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dylanmcknd Posted June 5, 2013 Report Share Posted June 5, 2013 On 6/5/2013 at 7:50 PM, Enter a new display name said: It is probably the fifth big release by Warp I can think of that disappoints everybody here, yet nobody seems to have learned their lesson. Since when do you really wait for the official release while the leaked files are out in the wild? I blame your impatience for pre-ordering from the first website that accepts pre-orders for Tomorrow's Harvest. It might be too bad for Warp, but it does not affect your experience of the album in any significant way. And how is Warp supposed to estimate the arrival date of the shipments around the world? Everybody seems pissed if their precious copies don't stand at their doorstep by Monday. I'm positive Warp knew exactly when retail and digital copies would hit Japan. And people aren't expecting actual physical copies atm, just the digital files. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/79165-tomorrows-harvest-on-sale-now-on-itunes-japan/page/10/#findComment-2018243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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