Oneohtrix Point Never - R Plus Seven

The hecker lopatin album is pretty loose and hard to get into, I agree. I like it, but its pretty weird music coming from both of them. There's a sort of emotional detachment especially considering their solo output.

tim hecker is really not very good at all. i mean he's canadian

oneontrix is as bad and boring

  On 7/12/2013 at 3:06 AM, dr lopez said:

tim hecker is really not very good at all. i mean he's canadian

*shakes head slowly*

  On 7/12/2013 at 4:05 AM, murphythecat8 said:

oneontrix is as bad and boring

great post

I've listened to OPN a few times. It doesn't engage a full on hit in the special killing zone in my brain like Aphex and Company. It's good but I don't see the big deal. However this new album announced on Warp raises my interest ten-fold.

  On 7/12/2013 at 4:05 AM, murphythecat8 said:

oneontrix is as bad and boring ass

Who's bad?

haha, can't wait for this album, warp is back!

I can't comprehend the hate to Tim Hecker. The dude makes really good music.

Yeah I would turn that hate around to Florian Hecker instead. One has life... the other does not.

  On 7/12/2013 at 9:56 PM, beerwolf said:

I've listened to OPN a few times. It doesn't engage a full on hit in the special killing zone in my brain like Aphex and Company. It's good but I don't see the big deal. However this new album announced on Warp raises my interest ten-fold.

There's something missing from his tracks, even when he's on.

  On 7/12/2013 at 11:58 PM, Tauhid said:

Yeah I would turn that hate around to Florian Hecker instead. One has life... the other does not.

What do you define as 'life'?

I enjoy mai experimental electronics in a puzzling/challenging sense. breaking new ground (imo) in sound design.

Tim Hecker to me sounds like the result of drowning a U2 album in ambient effects.

  On 7/13/2013 at 12:12 AM, hello spiral said:

 

  On 7/12/2013 at 11:58 PM, Tauhid said:

Yeah I would turn that hate around to Florian Hecker instead. One has life... the other does not.

 

What do you define as 'life'?

 

I enjoy mai experimental electronics in a puzzling/challenging sense. breaking new ground (imo) in sound design.

 

Tim Hecker to me sounds like the result of drowning a U2 album in ambient effects.

 

mood, emotion, atmosphere, etc. Sound design, by itself, is worthless. Florian Hecker's shit sounds like being in the mind a looney homeless dude.

I mean...

vs

One is a silly experiment, the other is a composition.

  On 7/13/2013 at 1:52 AM, Tauhid said:

 

 

vs

 

 

these tracs both make me harppy for different reasons. the florian video is funny funny. i like a few oneohtrix point never tracs

so now we hate opn and tim hecker? lol

Pretty sure most of watmm loves Tim Hecker. Which is why I usually keep my dislike to myself.

But I am amused by the irony of a watmm member's argument against Florian Hecker pretty much being 'that's not music'.

  On 7/13/2013 at 1:52 AM, Tauhid said:

 

  On 7/13/2013 at 12:12 AM, hello spiral said:

 

  On 7/12/2013 at 11:58 PM, Tauhid said:

Yeah I would turn that hate around to Florian Hecker instead. One has life... the other does not.

 

What do you define as 'life'?

 

I enjoy mai experimental electronics in a puzzling/challenging sense. breaking new ground (imo) in sound design.

 

Tim Hecker to me sounds like the result of drowning a U2 album in ambient effects.

 

 

mood, emotion, atmosphere, etc. Sound design, by itself, is worthless. Florian Hecker's shit sounds like being in the mind a looney homeless dude.

 

One is a silly experiment, the other is a composition.

 

That's not an argument. These are reasons which Lady Gaga fan would use against Tim Hecker itself. African or asian human being may not feel anything towards 'emotional, moody athmosphere' and have all natural rights to be like that. So this is constructed myth about universal law of perception. It's not a composition either, Erik Satie - the predecessor of all things ambient, wasn't regarded (and still isn't by many) as composer and he himself didn't want to. Actually, it's Florian who deliberately compose his music and Tim who doesn't, doing layers over layers. And that means nothing in regard to quality of both.

  On 7/13/2013 at 6:12 PM, Amen Lare said:

 

  On 7/13/2013 at 1:52 AM, Tauhid said:

 

  On 7/13/2013 at 12:12 AM, hello spiral said:

 

  On 7/12/2013 at 11:58 PM, Tauhid said:

Yeah I would turn that hate around to Florian Hecker instead. One has life... the other does not.

 

What do you define as 'life'?

 

I enjoy mai experimental electronics in a puzzling/challenging sense. breaking new ground (imo) in sound design.

 

Tim Hecker to me sounds like the result of drowning a U2 album in ambient effects.

 

 

mood, emotion, atmosphere, etc. Sound design, by itself, is worthless. Florian Hecker's shit sounds like being in the mind a looney homeless dude.

 

One is a silly experiment, the other is a composition.

 

 

That's not an argument. These are reasons which Lady Gaga fan would use against Tim Hecker itself. African or asian human being may not feel anything towards 'emotional, moody athmosphere' and have all natural rights to be like that. So this is constructed myth about universal law of perception. It's not a composition either, Erik Satie - the predecessor of all things ambient, wasn't regarded (and still isn't by many) as composer and he himself didn't want to. Actually, it's Florian who deliberately compose his music and Tim who doesn't, doing layers over layers. And that means nothing in regard to quality of both.

 

It's not music if I can't dance to it.

Friendly Foil you silly.

But I lake yoo.

id much rather listen to 'silly experiments' than very bland 'composed' ambient music that doesn't evoke any unique sensations whatsoever

posting in a hecker vs. tim hecker argument in a OPN new release thread

lol

  On 7/13/2013 at 10:24 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

id much rather listen to 'silly experiments' than very bland 'composed' ambient music that doesn't evoke any unique sensations whatsoever

This is interesting because I feel it gets at the heart of why people prefer certain music over others.

wgaf listen 2 the music if u like it lol its just an opinion make youre own reality down2metanarrative