World Cup 2014

  On 7/8/2014 at 10:55 PM, data said:

#nazis trending on twitter, naturally.

  On 7/8/2014 at 10:57 PM, vamos scorcho said:

 

I find it interesting how much nazi humor there still is today. it sucks that Germany still can't shake that off

 

I'm an educated, reasonable person with utmost respect for the complicated and multi-faceted culture and society of Germany and yet I still feel hesitant, half-jokingly, to use the common sports adjectives like "superior" or "dominant" or "Übermensch-y"

BRA71L

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:04 AM, Squee said:

Btw. am I the only one who is reminded of ReBoot when those terrible World Cup animated shorts are on

 

 

Nailed it! Couldn´t really place it, 90´s Johnny Quest + Heart Of Darkness PC game came to mind here.

Anyway, most entertaining World Cup I remember seeing. Besides the slaughter, it still was a pretty good match to watch, especially the start of the second half, Brazil really went for it for a good 10 minutes. Now hoping for an equally ridiculous game tomorrow.

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:47 AM, joshuatx said:

 

  On 7/8/2014 at 10:55 PM, data said:

#nazis trending on twitter, naturally.

 

  On 7/8/2014 at 10:57 PM, vamos scorcho said:

 

I find it interesting how much nazi humor there still is today. it sucks that Germany still can't shake that off

 

 

I'm an educated, reasonable person with utmost respect for the complicated and multi-faceted culture and society of Germany and yet I still feel hesitant, half-jokingly, to use the common sports adjectives like "superior" or "dominant" or "Übermensch-y"

 

I wouldn't worry too much about it:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22624104

am i the only german one here?

the only thing that i can say is: FINALE!

https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/486608669816410113

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:50 AM, Herr Jan said:

 

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:04 AM, Squee said:

Btw. am I the only one who is reminded of ReBoot when those terrible World Cup animated shorts are on

 

 

Nailed it! Couldn´t really place it, 90´s Johnny Quest + Heart Of Darkness PC game came to mind here.

 

Anyway, most entertaining World Cup I remember seeing. Besides the slaughter, it still was a pretty good match to watch, especially the start of the second half, Brazil really went for it for a good 10 minutes. Now hoping for an equally ridiculous game tomorrow.

 

holland - germany in the final. i will bet on that ! ;-)

all that bull about samba-football , or what the f... they call it, makes me puke.

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:56 AM, jlobkob said:

am i the only german one here?

the only thing that i can say is: FINALE!

nope

:)

Im going to go out on a limb and predict germany over holland in the final :D

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:56 AM, jlobkob said:

am i the only german one here?

the only thing that i can say is: FINALE!

you're not. jetzt geht's gegen die holländer. i'm looking forward to the final against the dutch on sunday.

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:06 AM, chenGOD said:

All this Brazil hate is fucking awful, but I expect nothing less from "World Cup football fans".

I get annoyed at any "fan" who roots more against a team rather for their own. Sure I get miffed by all the Brazilian hype and endless promotion (along with the cup's exuberant costs coupled with the nations internal socio-political strife) but I don't relish in the thought of any truly heartbroken Brazilian fan.

Every team benefits from bad calls. England wouldn't have won the World Cup without the benefit of a bad call.

Sure Brazil strategically targeted James, but neymar ended up with the broken back. So to say that Brazil was the only team to play rough is ridiculous.

Yes this was not a particularly strong Brazilian side, and they were probably fortunate to make it as far as they did, but this nationalistic gloating in victory is thoroughly sickening.

  On 7/9/2014 at 1:52 AM, chenGOD said:

Every team benefits from bad calls. England wouldn't have won the World Cup without the benefit of a bad call.

Sure Brazil strategically targeted James, but neymar ended up with the broken back. So to say that Brazil was the only team to play rough is ridiculous.

 

I must of missed that comment earlier. I've seen some brutish teams - Uruguay was straight up nasty, Ghana was rough. I didn't see it but an Algerian co-worker of mine said Russia was quite aggressive. I've also seen less diving overall than I expected.

Also, regarding the Neymar incident, my wife told me that I would of been livid watching the game live (I was at work at the time). I'm just a lowly youth and local amateur league referee but I know a fair amount about good officiating. I've skimmed the game since Velasco Carballo (the ref) really make a cumulative mistake by not issuing more cards. 54 fouls with only 2 bookings per side is ridiculous, (there were none in the first half, which is staggering)

A better strategy would of been to issue more cards early in the match, to set a tone and prevent from escalating tension and more importantly, preventing more aggressive fouls. That Neymar foul should of been, at the very least, a yellow card. You have to call a foul from behind, even if it looks innocuous, specifically for this reason. Players fouled from behind have far less preparation to take a fall.

^^^What are you, twelve?

  On 7/9/2014 at 2:28 AM, joshuatx said:

 

  On 7/9/2014 at 1:52 AM, chenGOD said:

Every team benefits from bad calls. England wouldn't have won the World Cup without the benefit of a bad call.

Sure Brazil strategically targeted James, but neymar ended up with the broken back. So to say that Brazil was the only team to play rough is ridiculous.

 

I must of missed that comment earlier. I've seen some brutish teams - Uruguay was straight up nasty, Ghana was rough. I didn't see it but an Algerian co-worker of mine said Russia was quite aggressive. I've also seen less diving overall than I expected.

 

Also, regarding the Neymar incident, my wife told me that I would of been livid watching the game live (I was at work at the time). I'm just a lowly youth and local amateur league referee but I know a fair amount about good officiating. I've skimmed the game since Velasco Carballo (the ref) really make a cumulative mistake by not issuing more cards. 54 fouls with only 2 bookings per side is ridiculous, (there were none in the first half, which is staggering)

 

A better strategy would of been to issue more cards early in the match, to set a tone and prevent from escalating tension and more importantly, preventing more aggressive fouls. That Neymar foul should of been, at the very least, a yellow card. You have to call a foul from behind, even if it looks innocuous, specifically for this reason. Players fouled from behind have far less preparation to take a fall.

Agreed on pretty much all counts. :)

  On 7/9/2014 at 2:28 AM, joshuatx said:

 

  On 7/9/2014 at 1:52 AM, chenGOD said:

Every team benefits from bad calls. England wouldn't have won the World Cup without the benefit of a bad call.

Sure Brazil strategically targeted James, but neymar ended up with the broken back. So to say that Brazil was the only team to play rough is ridiculous.

 

 

I must of missed that comment earlier. I've seen some brutish teams - Uruguay was straight up nasty, Ghana was rough. I didn't see it but an Algerian co-worker of mine said Russia was quite aggressive. I've also seen less diving overall than I expected.

 

Also, regarding the Neymar incident, my wife told me that I would of been livid watching the game live (I was at work at the time). I'm just a lowly youth and local amateur league referee but I know a fair amount about good officiating. I've skimmed the game since Velasco Carballo (the ref) really make a cumulative mistake by not issuing more cards. 54 fouls with only 2 bookings per side is ridiculous, (there were none in the first half, which is staggering)

 

A better strategy would of been to issue more cards early in the match, to set a tone and prevent from escalating tension and more importantly, preventing more aggressive fouls. That Neymar foul should of been, at the very least, a yellow card. You have to call a foul from behind, even if it looks innocuous, specifically for this reason. Players fouled from behind have far less preparation to take a fall.

 

There is a theory that the ref didn't want to brandish cards too easily, or too early, because so many Brazil players were already on yellows and would miss the next match if they were booked again. I'm not sure how much I buy into that kind of stuff, but maybe it was in the back of his mind.

Did your Algerian co-worker also mention that the Algerian fans were shining laser pens into the Russian goalkeeper's face? Not that that changes whether Russia were aggressive or not (I'm not sure they were from what I saw)

  On 7/9/2014 at 11:53 AM, Djeroek said:

video

Nice touch with little Sneijder in background. Sadly, this GIF is overused by now on a club level.

Regarding Brazil - how times are changing, i recall rooting for Scolari's Brazil in 2002 against Germany. What a team! They even had supersub in the face of Denilson, who dribbled the shit out of anyone on his way and would just come in to do this for 20-30 minutes. Scolari was a succesful club specialist before taking the national jobs, this time he was a constant failure for years, i expected a loss, but not this hurtful of course and not this far in the tournament too.

Shit like that tends to overhaul Brazil's take on football. After their home loss in Maracanazo in 1950 final, they took a long spell of dominance over world cups. The goalkeeper was outcast for all his life because of one mistake. I believe that tragedy really fueled the likes of Pele, Garrincha et al. I hope they return as they were one day.

I also hope Netherlands will fuck this Germany up for good, like west germans did against spectacular teams for half a century (Hungary 1954 and Holland 1974 come to mind first, in 1954 in particular Germany lost 2:8 to Hungary in the tournament but still managed to win the final in a rematch).

  On 7/8/2014 at 10:57 PM, vamos scorcho said:

 

I find it interesting how much nazi humor there still is today. it sucks that Germany still can't shake that off

 

yeah but it's "our" own fault in a way - humor always comes into play when there is a line to be crossed, and it is STILL crossing the line because Germany is kind of awkward about their past. Obviously the new-gen Germans don't have anything to do with it, but in general, everyone's still super-sensitive about it, making themselves an ideal target for "inappropriate remarks" - which is why I don't mind them, really.

1:07 min

  On 7/8/2014 at 10:58 PM, iococoi said:

public slaughter viewing

2014: snuff on tv

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:00 AM, goDel said:

 

  On 7/8/2014 at 10:39 PM, Nebraska said:

germany right now

 

LOL

 

I saw the game in a German club last night (10 p.m. in this timezone), this was the same club where Martial Canterel played live a couple weeks ago, incidentally, no relation to the story, just cool. And the reactions were surprising: This was a young, artsy-fartsy student crowd who - as is our self-proclaimed image - "don't really care about soccer but watch the world cup". It was interesting how quickly a kind of euphoria took over, to the point that the whole crowd started bursting out laughing when crying Brazilian fans were shown on screen. Even little kids. It was a bit weird, group behavior and so on.

I'm normally against the German team (I've mentioned this before) because it's bad for our business when they are in the game - less people come to our restaurant during the world cup, so I have my fingers crossed they loose early on, normally (Ironically, Jogi Löw, the German coach, is an occasional visitor of our restaurant - we don't tell him that bit though) - But I gotta say they deserve winning. My limited understanding of soccer gives me the impression that they are very tactical players, instead of just running towards the goal like most teams seem to do.

Also interesting that the German players barely cheered during the game, not even after the 7th goal. They were smiling, yes, but they had that "keep it together"-attitude and concentrated on finishing the game. Other teams cheer so heavily about one single goal, it's embarrassing when they wind up loosing. A very German thing to do, but sympathetic.

Now I kind of want them to finish this and get the title. Also Holland lol. If Holland wins, it's gonna cause a riot or something.

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:04 AM, Squee said:

Btw. am I the only one who is reminded of ReBoot when those terrible World Cup animated shorts are on

 

 

They are indeed horrible, I hate the music, the shaders, the everything.

And Heart of Darkness looked way better. Great game by the way.

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:36 AM, Ceerial said:

The way the fans and players has acted throughout the tournament, it's more than just football to them.

 

Which indeed is pretty damn stupid tbh. I'm all for passion, but at times it just got a bit silly. They have pretty much been crying non-stop ever since it started.

The grown-ups just want to have a way to let their emotions flow free, they want to feel the joy, they want to feel the sadness. If they got a phone call during the game that their car got stolen or something, they'd stop giving a shit about the whole world cup instantly.

But the kids ... it's REAL for them. Look at their distorted faces. They only have their parents and the crowd as reference, it must be a bit of a trauma for them to see their team loose.

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:56 AM, jlobkob said:

am i the only german one here?

nope

That was an interesting match to watch! I missed the anthems and jumped into the game at 1:50. I was stoned so I didn't really register the few minutes. When I zoned in I saw how the Brazilian football team was trying to attack, but never really were any danger to the German Defense. Then I sensed that it would only be a matter of time before the Germans scored... and that it would be deserved if they do! When the Germans attack it looked cool, keen & disciplined. Prowess. Hawk. Then 1-0. Then wtf 2-0. THen 3-0 and me and my dad both said "Riots!". 4-0. 5-0. wtf;.

Brazil tried again in the second half. THe first 10 minutes looked promising. BUt then there was Neuerkopff: what a keeper to have. 6-0 7-0 and this was almost too much: that a player who's name is Schuerrler (which semantically reminds me of "Schule", which means school in german) scored these goals (7-0 wow!) just made me giggle sideways. It was reminiscent of something old. 8-0 seemed to be the delicacy, but 1-7 it ended up to be. I dig.

As to see millions of Brazilians mourning and see their dreamed World Cup disappear:

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:39 AM, dr lopez said:

I enjoyed that very much and can't imagine a better way for Brazil to understand how truly shit their team was than that shellacking. Skipped their way through on bad calls and luck. Each game revealed more cracks in the system but the "spirit" of the team and country seemed to catch headlines. Hopefully now they'll realize they aren't actually god's gift to football and start caring about things like.... U know, tactics and leadership. Utterly perfect

Dreams can't last forever. Especially if you play against Germany in the semi-finals of a World Cup.

  On 7/9/2014 at 2:00 PM, Terpentintollwut said:

 

 

  On 7/9/2014 at 12:36 AM, Ceerial said:

The way the fans and players has acted throughout the tournament, it's more than just football to them.

 

Which indeed is pretty damn stupid tbh. I'm all for passion, but at times it just got a bit silly. They have pretty much been crying non-stop ever since it started.

 

The grown-ups just want to have a way to let their emotions flow free, they want to feel the joy, they want to feel the sadness. If they got a phone call during the game that their car got stolen or something, they'd stop giving a shit about the whole world cup instantly.

 

But the kids ... it's REAL for them. Look at their distorted faces. They only have their parents and the crowd as reference, it must be a bit of a trauma for them to see their team loose.

 

They were crying during the national anthem, they were crying after the whistle had been blown, they were crying when they lost, they were crying when they won, they were crying when players got injured, they were crying when they scored a goal, they were crying when the goalkeeper saved a penalty... the list goes

It's nice enough that grown men shows emotions from time to time (or something), but when you're doing it all the time, it just becomes incredibly laughable and silly.

The kids will just learn, that Brazil's national team as one of the absolute best sides in the world, is not a given. Probably pretty healthy for them to be honest, that way they might not end up like their grown counterparts, crying all the time

This post might be morbid and joyless, but was I the only think it got a too much towards the end?

But people crying over football, I've always had a issue with that.

Now that you mention it ... they were kind of crying about everything, weren't they? That is a bit laughabe. I even recall the first image you posted from some game. You can tell she's not REALLY emotional though, she's going for maximum face distortion because she's trying to get "into the mood" ...

As for the players and coaches crying, it's logical, isn't it? In the end, they get paid for each goal. Maybe not directly but their value as a player rises, so imagine the stress and the frustration. It's kinda like you're standing on a big field with a bunch of guys, trying to get some little thing into a specific zone, knowing you'll hit the jackpot if you succeed, but then there's these other dudes who keep stopping you from putting it in there, and end up humiliating you in front of everyone ... I just realize it's almost exactly like sex.

Players crying I can understand. When I played club football, our side got beaten in one match 8-0 and I cried on the bus, it was fucking embarrassing to play such shitty football. As a player, you have passion, you dedicate so much of your life to this pursuit.

But fans crying is pure nonsense.

Yeah yeah.

They're saying on tv there's a lot of aggression in Brazil, not aimed at German fans but at their own players. What's going on? They loved them before, now they hate them for failing?

That reminds me: I was participating in an exhibition in Barcelona a few weeks ago, and one of the local artists held a performance there entitled "I'm going to kill Messi" which consisted of him standing in the middle of the room whilst snapping his fingers and repeating the words "I'm going to kill Lionel Messi" over and over.

Hoping to see him on TV tonight.

... I don't like excitement so I am personally glad the game was so BORING so far