Losing the 'one' in tracks and knowing it

^good one.

LOLOL those comments are great "holy shit what the fuck wheres the downbeat?" "FUCK THE DOWNBEAT" "crying" haha

imo Easyfun the best of the pcmus gang by a looooooooooooooooooooooong way

  On 2/28/2018 at 6:08 PM, Brian Dance said:

Dopplereffekt's Isotropy (from Cellular Automata) - where do you guys here the 1?

For me, the first two bass notes entering on 0:35 are placed one 16th after beat 4. The third bass note is on 1.

  On 2/12/2018 at 11:09 PM, Kidrodi said:

wtf are you all smoking? it's just a 4/4

Yeah when I posted it I didn't in any way mean it's in a weird non 4/4 time sig or anything, there's just a bit in the main Amen loop which completely throws my brain out every single time

I love this Bola track but O, what a metric mindphuk.  Seems to be in 4 but with an oddball (or fluctuating) number of bars each turnaround.

happens for a few seconds when the kick comes in

I think it's deliberate but the acid line switches when the drums come in.

11/8 = 5/8+6/8 = 5/8+5/8+1/8

?/?

4/8+4/8+4/8+3/8 = 15/8

i still have no idea what this thread is about

  On 9/15/2021 at 8:25 PM, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

i still have no idea what this thread is about

  On 9/15/2021 at 8:25 PM, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

i still have no idea what this thread is about

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_(music)#Downbeat_and_upbeat

I don't think I ever hear this Meshuggah track correctly.  Brain always puts the snares on 1 2 3 4, putting all the cymbals and vocals on the off beat.  Sounds cool, but I don't think that's the groove the band intended (I think the cymbals are meant to be on the 1 2 3 4 as well as the vox, but my brain refuses to put it there because of how I interpret the intro riff):

>fuckin normies

>youre not listening to the songs "correctly"

  On 9/15/2021 at 9:00 PM, brian trageskin said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beat_(music)#Downbeat_and_upbeat

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this isn't real it's an illusion of formalized descriptions it's just sounds

It would prob come off as just sounds to most other animals (random bits of noise with no relation to one another) but humans naturally hear things such as tempo, melody, groove, and all the other things that point towards organized sound... the first beat of a bar being one of those things.  It's one of those things people hear regardless of whether they're aware that's what they're hearing.  And anyone composing music in the traditional sense has intent as to where that beat lies.  Noise/ambient artists (sometimes) excluded.

  On 9/15/2021 at 11:35 PM, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

>fuckin normies

>youre not listening to the songs "correctly"

this isn't real it's an illusion of formalized descriptions it's just sounds

The hypothesis of linguistic relativity, also known as the Sapir–Whorf hypothesis /səˌpɪər ˈwɔːrf/, the Whorf hypothesis, or Whorfianism, is a principle suggesting that the structure of a language affects its speakers' worldview or cognition, and thus people's perceptions are relative to their spoken language.

  On 9/15/2021 at 8:25 PM, ilqx hermolia xpli said:

i still have no idea what this thread is about

this thread is about listening to music and knowing you have feelings for someone who does not have corresponding feels for you. like me, this is what i am doing. i am losing the one while listening to tracks.

am i doin it right?

  On 9/15/2021 at 9:25 PM, Zephyr_Nova said:

I don't think I ever hear this Meshuggah track correctly.  Brain always puts the snares on 1 2 3 4, putting all the cymbals and vocals on the off beat.  Sounds cool, but I don't think that's the groove the band intended (I think the cymbals are meant to be on the 1 2 3 4 as well as the vox, but my brain refuses to put it there because of how I interpret the intro riff):

 

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i can't figure out if the snares are on the & (1&2&3&4&) or on the 1. that bit between ~0:50-1:00 where's it's a pretty straightforward thrash might be key to figuring it out but i'm not smart enough

  On 9/16/2021 at 12:49 AM, auxien said:

i can't figure out if the snares are on the & (1&2&3&4&) or on the 1. that bit between ~0:50-1:00 where's it's a pretty straightforward thrash might be key to figuring it out but i'm not smart enough

Have only heard this once just now - in that bit you mentioned the SD is on the numbers aka the onbeats.

Usually they put a crash on the 1 when they change from e.g., the verse to a chorus, that's what helped here.

Another similar SD fuckery from them happens in Demiurge, where the snare is on 1 and 3 (not the 2 and 4 as usual).

You ARE smart.

  On 9/15/2021 at 9:25 PM, Zephyr_Nova said:

I don't think I ever hear this Meshuggah track correctly.  Brain always puts the snares on 1 2 3 4, putting all the cymbals and vocals on the off beat.  Sounds cool, but I don't think that's the groove the band intended (I think the cymbals are meant to be on the 1 2 3 4 as well as the vox, but my brain refuses to put it there because of how I interpret the intro riff):

 

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I checked it out, tempo is 110bpm (or 220bpm, whichever suits. I prefer 110).

Song starts on the one. Haake's then enters with cheeky hi-hats in the offbeats like

The bit that starts at 0:32 has bass drum and snare drum like this:

tried to use a little ingenuity and this is a burgerable screenrecording but hey whatever

1 2 3 4 PAP PAP PAP PAP

i think it's relatively clear what i'm demonstrating here, just to prove what IOS is saying up ^ but i didn't get too complex trying to replicate the previously mentioned drumbeat...just wanted to track the 1 and see how it fell when pseudo-isolating the snare in the track (and obv adding a stock snare sound to match with)

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  On 9/16/2021 at 2:25 AM, IOS said:

I checked it out, tempo is 110bpm (or 220bpm, whichever suits. I prefer 110).

Song starts on the one. Haake's then enters with cheeky hi-hats in the offbeats like

The bit that starts at 0:32 has bass drum and snare drum like this:

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How you described it is how I hear it, but I think those hi-hats are actually meant to denote where the 1 2 3 4 lies (as they do in pretty much every Meshuggah song).