Guest cult fiction Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Anybody else going to see her in Seattle next Friday?http://kremwerk.strangertickets.com/events/25074246/elevator-kremwerk-present-holly-herndon I'd rank Platform right up there with Machinedrum's Rooms as being one of the top albums of this decade. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2348577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malaria Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Man.. I've given this 10-15 listens and it's still not doing anything for me. Bummed but oh well. Saw her in DC about a month ago; liked the tunes but cringed at the projected q&a. It came across (to me) as pretty pretentious, and it caused people to laugh/shout during the music. Some seemed to pay more attention to her friend's responses than what she was doing/playing. Hearing "DAO" on a sound system made me like the track though. Another bummer was that her computer crashed during an unreleased (I think) banger. Edited July 23, 2015 by malaria Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide malaria's signature Hide all signatures https://rrecreationn.tumblr.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2348653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny O Flannagin Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 On 7/23/2015 at 2:17 PM, malaria said: Man.. I've given this 10-15 listens and it's still not doing anything for me. Bummed but oh well. Saw her in DC about a month ago; liked the tunes but cringed at the projected q&a. It came across (to me) as pretty pretentious, and it caused people to laugh/shout during the music. Some seemed to pay more attention to her friend's responses than what she was doing/playing. Hearing "DAO" on a sound system made me like the track though. Another bummer was that her computer crashed during an unreleased (I think) banger. Can you go into this a bit more. was it an interview while the music was playing? Also, upgrade your RAM holly Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Danny O Flannagin's signature Hide all signatures https://nimajeb.bandcamp.com/music https://www.instagram.com/bengastphoto/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malaria Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 On 7/31/2015 at 7:27 PM, Danny O Flannagin said: liked the tunes but cringed at the projected q&a Can you go into this a bit more. was it an interview while the music was playing? Also, upgrade your RAM holly So she had her friend Brian Rogers do visuals for her, and half the time he displayed/messed with cool 2D graphics floating in a 3D environment, and the other half he answered questions that people at the show texted in. You can see examples here: https://twitter.com/HeyMerrill/status/606845886472306688 https://twitter.com/KareemEstefan/status/606830682686558208 https://twitter.com/hipatark/status/606677420423454720 https://twitter.com/jaesalinas/status/606671037007314947 https://twitter.com/PASSEMC/status/614577045339795456 It's a cool concept, but I feel like it was really distracting, and to me, pretentious. At the DC show, I think someone asked him what the best industrial band is, to which he replied "Einsturzende Neubauten uber alles," or something along those lines. It all just seemed silly and "edgy." I think someone asked him about his favorite Die Hard movie or something, too. Most people just seemed to be waiting for the next " funny/edgy/insightful " question and answer. Lots of looking down at phones/texting and laughing/shouts at the responses. Fuck I sound like an old man. "Quit having a good time at the show!" Oh well, just left a bad taste in my mouth; surprised that Holly would be cool with having someone else soap boxing while she's playing. I guess his answers are close enough to what she would respond with. Holly/Matty/Brian pls respond.. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide malaria's signature Hide all signatures https://rrecreationn.tumblr.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted July 31, 2015 Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 On 7/31/2015 at 9:13 PM, malaria said: Holly/Matty/Brian pls respond.. i can virtually guarantee that matt sometimes reads posts on watmm ;) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 On 7/23/2015 at 7:08 AM, cult fiction said: Anybody else going to see her in Seattle next Friday? http://kremwerk.strangertickets.com/events/25074246/elevator-kremwerk-present-holly-herndon I'd rank Platform right up there with Machinedrum's Rooms as being one of the top albums of this decade. you ever play at kremwerk? we both could... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 I dled home because I liked the video. Production is kinda too good like in an ISAM kinda way? Also yeah I dunno if I would want to listen to more tracks that don't do something different. I listened to chorus too and it seemed a little samey/stopped paying attention the knife/fever ray seems like more legitimate female musician doing electronicmusics re: production seems a little too movie-ish/gold/teal for me. like dub the audio over this instead of thought-provoking nsa music video thing still kind of cool, it's like autechre made a HIT SINGLE Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 also yeah the knife/fever ray/karin djeruikfjier andersson, not saying Dry and Dusty is like an afx/boc track but that track has 'it' to me. Other stuff too but that track in particular Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 oh yeah one thing about that kind of production I hate - even the HATS have like this sub-infra-phatbass. they're fukin hats Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 (edited) maybe it's something to do with multiband compression cause I hear some people just can't tolerate that productionwise. like srs producers/engineers Edited August 1, 2015 by Ragnar Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 also I fucking hate the term sound design we are all designing sounds i let out a wet juicy fart and clench my asscheeks in some specific way I am designing sound Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 On 8/1/2015 at 1:09 AM, Ragnar said: the knife/fever ray seems like more legitimate female musician doing electronicmusics You only have room in your life for a single female electronic musician? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 On 8/1/2015 at 3:01 AM, caze said: On 8/1/2015 at 1:09 AM, Ragnar said: the knife/fever ray seems like more legitimate female musician doing electronicmusics You only have room in your life for a single female electronic musician? yes Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 oh wait I only have room in my life for a legitimate female ARTIST burn Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ragnar's signature Hide all signatures http://djsaint-hubert.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caze Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny O Flannagin Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 On 7/31/2015 at 9:13 PM, malaria said: On 7/31/2015 at 7:27 PM, Danny O Flannagin said: liked the tunes but cringed at the projected q&a Can you go into this a bit more. was it an interview while the music was playing? Also, upgrade your RAM holly So she had her friend Brian Rogers do visuals for her, and half the time he displayed/messed with cool 2D graphics floating in a 3D environment, and the other half he answered questions that people at the show texted in. You can see examples here: It's a cool concept, but I feel like it was really distracting, and to me, pretentious. At the DC show, I think someone asked him what the best industrial band is, to which he replied "Einsturzende Neubauten uber alles," or something along those lines. It all just seemed silly and "edgy." I think someone asked him about his favorite Die Hard movie or something, too. Most people just seemed to be waiting for the next " funny/edgy/insightful " question and answer. Lots of looking down at phones/texting and laughing/shouts at the responses. Fuck I sound like an old man. "Quit having a good time at the show!" Oh well, just left a bad taste in my mouth; surprised that Holly would be cool with having someone else soap boxing while she's playing. I guess his answers are close enough to what she would respond with. Holly/Matty/Brian pls respond.. It seems like she's okay with transitioning into a digital environment rather than romanticizing the real one. I agree tho, this sounds like it might distract from the show On 8/1/2015 at 3:06 AM, Ragnar said: oh wait I only have room in my life for a legitimate female ARTIST burn Holly just got REKT Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Danny O Flannagin's signature Hide all signatures https://nimajeb.bandcamp.com/music https://www.instagram.com/bengastphoto/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malaria Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 On 7/31/2015 at 9:41 PM, John Ehrlichman said: On 7/31/2015 at 9:13 PM, malaria said: Holly/Matty/Brian pls respond.. i can virtually guarantee that matt sometimes reads posts on watmm ;) Yeah that's what I figured. Hi Mat. On 8/1/2015 at 3:51 AM, Danny O Flannagin said: It seems like she's okay with transitioning into a digital environment rather than romanticizing the real one. I can see that, but it's an awkward hybrid at the moment, I guess. Maybe it's just the q&a content that I have a problem with, not the set-up. As a paying IRL audience member, my expected baseline experience involves a decent sound system and a visual grasp of the performance; however, when the visual experience encroaches on the aural, I get put off. Again, this is me just being nit picky. Huzzah for discussion. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide malaria's signature Hide all signatures https://rrecreationn.tumblr.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
splesh Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 One of the coolest and most of its time/on the new tip albums I've heard in a really long time. I really love hearing music that is so genuinely weird and unsettling but also so catchy. The late 00s into the 10s are seeming to show that one of the biggest new stylistic elements is interesting hyper stutter kinds of edits in a more up to date and new way than just rehashing how they were used in the 90s. It definitely does remind one of the kinds of editing found in footwork, as well as in recent albums by Oneohtrix Point Never. Replica uses rhythmic sampling but not in quite the same way, and yeah some of R Plus Seven seems to have rhythms closer to but also even more frenetic than footwork albums. Autechre's Exai uses some kinda stuttery shit but not necessarily as enjoyably as on L-event, for my liking. Shangaan electro is kicking off as well with albums like that by Nozinja. R Plus Seven by Oneohtrix Point Never has a sonic palette similar but beyond the norm of a lot of sample based vaporwave, but also more like some of his earlier albums like Returnal. Yeah, Holly reminds me of Laurie Anderson a bunch, also in terms of how sardonic some of her approach is and some of her lyrics and music video elements draw on things like Facebook and YouTube advertisements... I haven't watched her lectures but I don't think she's pretentious, I think she's pretty self conscious and self effacing about the fact her music is very inspired by pop culture and by musical experimentation. What do you mean by pretentious? Definitely one of the coolest albums I've heard in ages, good to see 4AD putting out cool new music and not just the plagiarising undead who have made more exciting music in the past, and Platform is certainly my favorite I've heard from this year so far. I need to keep track of a lot of the others I've missed, but I'm also really stoked for Young Thug's album Hytunes coming out in 3 weeks from now! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeQYcJWNBz Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 On 8/1/2015 at 3:06 AM, Ragnar said: oh wait I only have room in my life for a legitimate female ARTIST burn Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bechuga Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 I hope at the next show she displays nothing but delet's posts about her music or this thread in general. Hi, Holly's audience! Also no-one does anything but stare at their phones during gigs anyway. Or recording the stage and blocking people behind them. [/rant] Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bechuga's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YO303 Posted August 1, 2015 Report Share Posted August 1, 2015 DAO is fucking sick tho Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2351883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Foil Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 For her next show, I hope everyone in the crowd walks outside while she's playing, only to walk back in and say they didn't like the music they didn't hear. That'd be amusing. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2352000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real Human Bean Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Saw her perform a few months back and it was great - every one well into the music and visuals were interesting. Was in a basement club so no one had signal on their phones to txt matey. I reckon she's a good'un. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2352029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
coax Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) DAO for the sounds and skitters and Morning Sun for the melody. Also Chorus has a cool section at about 2:55 Edited August 2, 2015 by coax Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2352037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny O Flannagin Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Gonna see her on the 8th in SF. very excited Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Danny O Flannagin's signature Hide all signatures https://nimajeb.bandcamp.com/music https://www.instagram.com/bengastphoto/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/86975-holly-herndon-platform/page/7/#findComment-2352139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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