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  On 5/22/2021 at 9:38 PM, Cryptowen said:

but isn't the system vs the people already a conceptual division of the human race

what if.. now hear me out.. humans are a system?

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anyone think that semi hysteria/epidemic of people doing jenkem in florida is having longterm effects? 

 

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This isn't directly an observation about the outside world but hope it fits (pointless),
Cause I'm having a bit of an existential crisis. I feel I have become more and more disillusioned with everything. I hardly listen to music any more, movies don't have the same effect, all the magic and mystery is gone.

I feel like part of it is knowing more about science stuff, even though it sounds lame. It's the bad part of reductionism. When I see all thoughts and emotions as physical processes they lose their power.

I guess it's also part of getting older, nothing is new as much any more. It's impossible to listen to a track and have this deep fascination with it, but at the same time I have a much easier time picking out what it's doing and why I like it. All I want to do is program and do archiving stuff, and sort of librarian type of shit. But regardless anything I think and experience becomes a smaller and smaller part of the whole, and so each thing loses its impact compared to years before. And it comes at a time when I'm way more technically equipped to do stuff. I have a lot of practice in several areas but the drive to use them is fading a bit. I still want to learn but yeah, it's a weird vibe right now. 

Also disillusioned with the drama and culture stuff. It all seems so arbitrary and un-thoughtful what people get angry about. I can't connect to anything much because I always think up alternative interpretations of things. I listen to a right wing guy complain about onlyfans for example, and I just think about how exaggerated and stupid the whole sexuality thing is. And then there's the fighting over status of art products, whether it's which games are good or which music or movies are good, to the point where I just don't engage in culture discussion at all and just decide for myself what I like. There's still insights to be had from others but it's like, after 15 years of this kind of thing idk... I have been living in a bubble for over 2 years, by my own choice, and not discussed or read much online and only done what I'm interested in but that gets old too. The problem is I'm not even 40 and I'm supposed to live like this for god knows how many more years?

This is gonna sound super dramatic but if I died tomorrow I wouldn't mind, Like I seriously cannot see what I'm supposed to do for even another decade that will somehow feel new or fascinating in some way

</14 year old whiny rant>

  On 5/22/2021 at 8:00 PM, drome said:

The system wants you to believe they’re for minorities but they want to use them to push their agenda; namely control.

They claim to care about people.

Do they fuck!

Listen to people when they give you an alternative narrative.

Don’t fall for labels and slurs like ‘conspiracy theorist’.

The system just wants to divide the human race.

Listen to opinions on both sides.

You might not agree with everything someone says but why throw the baby out of the bath water.

No one has authority over another human being.

We can sort the mess out amongst ourselves.

Humans are good.

Those who seek power should be feared, not their lies and manipulation.

Ps sorry to those I’ve burned. This is crazy right now, what with the threats the government’s are making towards people’s rights and livelihoods.

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if i want to bully right wingers, i will.

  On 5/23/2021 at 2:00 PM, coax said:

This isn't directly an observation about the outside world but hope it fits (pointless),
Cause I'm having a bit of an existential crisis. I feel I have become more and more disillusioned with everything. I hardly listen to music any more, movies don't have the same effect, all the magic and mystery is gone.

I feel like part of it is knowing more about science stuff, even though it sounds lame. It's the bad part of reductionism. When I see all thoughts and emotions as physical processes they lose their power.

I guess it's also part of getting older, nothing is new as much any more. It's impossible to listen to a track and have this deep fascination with it, but at the same time I have a much easier time picking out what it's doing and why I like it. All I want to do is program and do archiving stuff, and sort of librarian type of shit. But regardless anything I think and experience becomes a smaller and smaller part of the whole, and so each thing loses its impact compared to years before. And it comes at a time when I'm way more technically equipped to do stuff. I have a lot of practice in several areas but the drive to use them is fading a bit. I still want to learn but yeah, it's a weird vibe right now. 

Also disillusioned with the drama and culture stuff. It all seems so arbitrary and un-thoughtful what people get angry about. I can't connect to anything much because I always think up alternative interpretations of things. I listen to a right wing guy complain about onlyfans for example, and I just think about how exaggerated and stupid the whole sexuality thing is. And then there's the fighting over status of art products, whether it's which games are good or which music or movies are good, to the point where I just don't engage in culture discussion at all and just decide for myself what I like. There's still insights to be had from others but it's like, after 15 years of this kind of thing idk... I have been living in a bubble for over 2 years, by my own choice, and not discussed or read much online and only done what I'm interested in but that gets old too. The problem is I'm not even 40 and I'm supposed to live like this for god knows how many more years?

This is gonna sound super dramatic but if I died tomorrow I wouldn't mind, Like I seriously cannot see what I'm supposed to do for even another decade that will somehow feel new or fascinating in some way

</14 year old whiny rant>

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Have you tried drugs?

 

In seriousness, existential crises happen. They pass. But it usually requires work to shift it. I recommend therapy (with a good therapist), or making changes in your life; meet new people, move, challenge yourself to learn a new skill. Good luck with it. 

  On 5/22/2021 at 8:00 PM, drome said:

The system wants you to believe they’re for minorities but they want to use them to push their agenda; namely control.

They claim to care about people.

Do they fuck!

Listen to people when they give you an alternative narrative.

Don’t fall for labels and slurs like ‘conspiracy theorist’.

The system just wants to divide the human race.

Listen to opinions on both sides.

You might not agree with everything someone says but why throw the baby out of the bath water.

No one has authority over another human being.

We can sort the mess out amongst ourselves.

Humans are good.

Those who seek power should be feared, not their lies and manipulation.

Ps sorry to those I’ve burned. This is crazy right now, what with the threats the government’s are making towards people’s rights and livelihoods.

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Does it never bother you that people have been prophesying catastrophic domination for ages but it never really pans out? Go on dailymotion and watch David Icke’s appearances on Terry Wogan. He’s saying exactly the same things a lot of people in the alternative thought corner are saying now but with some slightly different players and scenarios but with the exact same outcome. Why is it that things never seem to pan out? Are the evil plans foiled every time? 
 

Another thing that bothers me is what/who will be replacing our current evil overlords and what society will look like. As a white male in a western-European country life’s pretty good for me but throughout my life I have occasionally depended on our state, eg in the form of healthcare or financial support. When the system is overthrown will those support systems be kept in place? And who will make sure that the new people in charge won’t be corrupted? 

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  On 5/23/2021 at 2:00 PM, coax said:

This isn't directly an observation about the outside world but hope it fits (pointless),
Cause I'm having a bit of an existential crisis. I feel I have become more and more disillusioned with everything. I hardly listen to music any more, movies don't have the same effect, all the magic and mystery is gone.

I feel like part of it is knowing more about science stuff, even though it sounds lame. It's the bad part of reductionism. When I see all thoughts and emotions as physical processes they lose their power.

I guess it's also part of getting older, nothing is new as much any more. It's impossible to listen to a track and have this deep fascination with it, but at the same time I have a much easier time picking out what it's doing and why I like it. All I want to do is program and do archiving stuff, and sort of librarian type of shit. But regardless anything I think and experience becomes a smaller and smaller part of the whole, and so each thing loses its impact compared to years before. And it comes at a time when I'm way more technically equipped to do stuff. I have a lot of practice in several areas but the drive to use them is fading a bit. I still want to learn but yeah, it's a weird vibe right now. 

Also disillusioned with the drama and culture stuff. It all seems so arbitrary and un-thoughtful what people get angry about. I can't connect to anything much because I always think up alternative interpretations of things. I listen to a right wing guy complain about onlyfans for example, and I just think about how exaggerated and stupid the whole sexuality thing is. And then there's the fighting over status of art products, whether it's which games are good or which music or movies are good, to the point where I just don't engage in culture discussion at all and just decide for myself what I like. There's still insights to be had from others but it's like, after 15 years of this kind of thing idk... I have been living in a bubble for over 2 years, by my own choice, and not discussed or read much online and only done what I'm interested in but that gets old too. The problem is I'm not even 40 and I'm supposed to live like this for god knows how many more years?

This is gonna sound super dramatic but if I died tomorrow I wouldn't mind, Like I seriously cannot see what I'm supposed to do for even another decade that will somehow feel new or fascinating in some way

</14 year old whiny rant>

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  On 5/23/2021 at 2:35 PM, Thu Zaw said:

Have you tried drugs?

 

In seriousness, existential crises happen. They pass. But it usually requires work to shift it. I recommend therapy (with a good therapist), or making changes in your life; meet new people, move, challenge yourself to learn a new skill. Good luck with it. 

Thanks. i shouldn't have made the post tbh but my brain is retarded and forgot what it was like to have a mini-crisis. ill get out of it by trying some of the stuff you said, but today was just -really- shitty so i couldnt help myself

 

  On 5/23/2021 at 3:52 PM, brian trageskin said:

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shakespeare gets it

  On 5/23/2021 at 7:37 PM, coax said:

Thanks. i shouldn't have made the post tbh but my brain is retarded and forgot what it was like to have a mini-crisis. ill get out of it by trying some of the stuff you said, but today was just -really- shitty so i couldnt help myself

 

shakespeare gets it

No sweat. We all find ourselves in those places. And if can seem like we'll never feel joy again. 

Meditation works for me too.

  On 5/23/2021 at 7:37 PM, coax said:

Christopher Marlow gets it

ftfy 

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mental health plummeting today, HOWEVER i've had lots of fun in the "liminal spaces/images that evoke" area of youtube. just mute the video and set up your own soundtrack - right now i have gescom minidisc on shuffle playing over "Sinoms" by Michael Snow - you can do this by having even more tabs open on youtube, or by having several media players at once. (Gescom - Minidisc on Youtube)

(btw you have to skip about 15mins of Sinoms to where it gets good)

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memory(thought) creates the fantasy of time and continuity. but reality is always new and fresh - impossible to grab hold of and pin down. trippy, slippy, dreamlike, fluid, flowing. always morphing - shape shifting. not solid or fixed. i am that. very weird.

I look forward to seeing the enraged but helpless look on my boss' face when I waltz in to work whenever the hell it pleases me after the kibosh is put on the whole infernal time thang. Forgetting about time is quite a liberating feeling, sort of floaty and scary but scary in a good way. 

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pee pee poo poo.

Not very many people enjoy going to the bathroom. There are certain things that make it unpleasant.

Toilet paper isn’t always readily available. Sometimes you have to go elsewhere to find a bathroom. Sometimes you have to wait in line to use the toilet.

Even when you can find a bathroom, there may be other people in the room trying to use the toilet at the same time.

In order to deal with these situations, you need a device that can help you. This device should have everything you need to successfully relieve yourself.

If you can find a device that includes these features, it will make your life easier. It will make that time spent in the bathroom a lot more pleasant.

  On 5/26/2021 at 3:52 PM, dingformung said:

pee pee poo poo.

Not very many people enjoy going to the bathroom. There are certain things that make it unpleasant.

Toilet paper isn’t always readily available. Sometimes you have to go elsewhere to find a bathroom. Sometimes you have to wait in line to use the toilet.

Even when you can find a bathroom, there may be other people in the room trying to use the toilet at the same time.

In order to deal with these situations, you need a device that can help you. This device should have everything you need to successfully relieve yourself.

If you can find a device that includes these features, it will make your life easier. It will make that time spent in the bathroom a lot more pleasant.

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bro, this mystery was solved a long time ago:

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the self is memory/past and not present actuality. so i'm not here, there is no invisible me in the head looking out of the eyes, hearing shit, talking, thinking, etc. feels like there is though. fucking weird nature.

  On 5/27/2021 at 2:30 PM, Mindphaser said:

the self is memory/past and not present actuality. so i'm not here, there is no invisible me in the head looking out of the eyes, hearing shit, talking, thinking, etc. feels like there is though. fucking weird nature.

There is an autobiographical self (personhood, narrative of past "this is me, that is not me", "I'm the body, I'm the mind") and there is a self as observer (awareness, being in the now, "this is", "I have a body, I have a mind"), then there is the state of no-self which cannot really be described from the ego perspective using language.

The language of the ego is based on a subject/object dichotomy, but the state of no-self is not a subject/object dichotomy. It is a fusion. A lack of differentiation, a melting together, and ultimately an experience of oneness.

Now, as far as losing oneself to something... well, that's the definition of meditation. The core Buddhist practices are designed to help you let go of your ego-based thoughts and to focus on one thing with your senses - whether it be your breath, or a sound, or what have you. That's the way to lose yourself in something - to let go of all other things (including the self), to focus on one thing (the object) with all your senses and emotions. And if that is achieved, then you become one with that object...

So, yes, meditation can lead to "losing oneself". But also to "finding oneself" - by getting rid of the false self which is based on social constructs and ideas about who we are (we are defined by our jobs, our hobbies, our relationships etc) and finding out who we really are as humans beings (feelings, sensations). You could say that it leads you from being an egocentric person towards being a person who experiences true empathy for others. It helps you see through the illusion of what life is supposed to be like and start living it how it truly is - moment by moment.

Sorry for writing so much... I do tend to rant when I get started on these topics... but there you have it! : )

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