Autechre the tour is over

I had a shitload of fun at the London gig. Can't work out if it's the best I've seen them, since they never disappoint anyway. Some of it really pushes you to your limit of what is listenable, but I kinda like that at times, especially when it's next to the simpler stuff they drop in from time to time. Danced quite a bit too so all in all a fucking great night.

  On 4/12/2010 at 10:56 AM, Obel said:

  On 4/12/2010 at 6:00 AM, Awepittance said:

  On 4/12/2010 at 1:05 AM, digit said:

people making out don't bother me but idiots carrying on long, loud conversations while a band is playing deserve to be shot.

 

this

 

Agreed

 

And also how can you be against a couple kissing at a gig? That's one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. You know how when you listen to music it has an emotional effect on you (if it's doing its job that is)? Well sharing that with someone you care about is a pretty special thing. What better environment to be in than in a big room with amazing sound where everyone is enjoying themselves?

 

I pity you and your pathetic, miserable attitude. Go fuck yourself Morgoth and your shitty belief about how people should act at a gig.

 

 

 

 

 

Obel for AE subforum mod.

so you were the one making out at the show!

how dare u

  On 4/12/2010 at 11:08 AM, karmakramer said:

  On 4/12/2010 at 10:56 AM, Obel said:

  On 4/12/2010 at 6:00 AM, Awepittance said:

  On 4/12/2010 at 1:05 AM, digit said:

people making out don't bother me but idiots carrying on long, loud conversations while a band is playing deserve to be shot.

 

this

 

Agreed

 

And also how can you be against a couple kissing at a gig? That's one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. You know how when you listen to music it has an emotional effect on you (if it's doing its job that is)? Well sharing that with someone you care about is a pretty special thing. What better environment to be in than in a big room with amazing sound where everyone is enjoying themselves?

 

I pity you and your pathetic, miserable attitude. Go fuck yourself Morgoth and your shitty belief about how people should act at a gig.

 

 

 

 

 

Obel for AE subforum mod.

 

 

so you were the one making out at the show!

 

how dare u

i'll have you know that was the most amazing kiss ever.

i got pretty horny just watching you two.

  On 4/12/2010 at 10:56 AM, Obel said:

  On 4/12/2010 at 6:00 AM, Awepittance said:

  On 4/12/2010 at 1:05 AM, digit said:

people making out don't bother me but idiots carrying on long, loud conversations while a band is playing deserve to be shot.

 

this

 

Agreed

 

And also how can you be against a couple kissing at a gig? That's one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. You know how when you listen to music it has an emotional effect on you (if it's doing its job that is)? Well sharing that with someone you care about is a pretty special thing. What better environment to be in than in a big room with amazing sound where everyone is enjoying themselves?

 

I pity you and your pathetic, miserable attitude. Go fuck yourself Morgoth and your shitty belief about how people should act at a gig.

 

 

 

 

 

Obel for AE subforum mod.

Dude, the same people kissing each other were also talking throughout the entire gig (except those moments when they were kissing). The kisses did not appear to be related to any emotional reaction to the music.

My statement concerning such people not being allowed to enter gigs was an overstatement that was just not politically correct. Dzjeezes: lighten up, it's just an internet forum and no more than that.

Am I furthermore entitled to have my own ideas about what I believe to be strange and not? I do not diss you for saying that people can react emotionally to music and start kissing, so why are you attacking me? Or wait: maybe I should go fuck myself because my beliefs do not match yours? I do respect your beliefs and am not the one who starts personal insults and attacks.

To put it in a stupid way "let's agree to disagree", maybe that's the most mature thing to do? you don't have to start insulting people.

I was completely exaggerating. Wasn't trying to offend!

I do disagree though.

  On 4/11/2010 at 3:29 PM, Morgoth said:

  On 4/11/2010 at 3:22 PM, Miblo said:

  On 4/11/2010 at 3:08 PM, Morgoth said:

[...] I also believe it's weird that people go to shows based on liking one record. [...]

So, by that logic, going to a show without having so much as heard one record, never mind liking it, would be completely out of the question. We can go to discover new music without being weird, can't we? Or, at least, without this being the source of our weirdness.

 

"I believe it's weird " ... "it is weird". Can I have my own opinion? Maybe not.

 

I believe it's weird just indicates that it is something I would not do. I used to go to gigs more frequently, and I always checked out acts I did not know (hey, I discovered new music that way), but for me there always was at least one act I knew in advance and really liked, whether they were supporting acts or the main act.

 

Btw: a lot of people believe I am weird just because I listen to Ae and go to their gigs. I don't care that they believe I'm wierd, so please: do not take being called weird as in insult.

Okay, fair enough. Cheers for clarifying, Morgoth. No insult taken, if I appeared to imply that in my response: I tend to celebrate weirdness, but simply don't agree with that opinion of yours. Music exists in performance as much as on the record, and if there aren't any recordings available then we have to first listen to the music through performance. I suppose your argument could be somewhat analogous to considering it weird to purchase music physically (or now digitally) before having previously listened to it, but in this much of the excitement of discovery is lost.

  On 4/11/2010 at 10:24 PM, Lianne said:

I hear what Morgoth is saying. We can get nitpicky about details, but basically I think it's true that the way most people approach gigs (especially electronic gigs) is really lame. Making out, talking loudly, wandering around, just generally doing anything with anyone except listenting to the music or dancing to it... it's just annoying. Why pay for a ticket to do those things? I'm not saying you should stand there stroking your beard. You can go mental if you want, that's cool. But at least respond or pay attention to the shitting music, or let others do so if they want.

Lianne, I couldn't agree more. I'm not a dancer and my preferred place at a gig tends to be right up at the stage (especially at venues of more than a few hundred capacity), but on the odd occasions that I've been further back it's definitely been noticeable the amount of shitting around that people do there, not listening to the music. And yet it has seemed that the sound has been mixed (or at least the main volume set) for these further back places. Sound engineers should stop pandering to these fuckers who don't care about the music and instead make it sound wonderful for those who do. It's populism gone mad!

  On 4/12/2010 at 2:29 PM, Miblo said:

And yet it has seemed that the sound has been mixed (or at least the main volume set) for these further back places. Sound engineers should stop pandering to these fuckers who don't care about the music and instead make it sound wonderful for those who do. It's populism gone mad!

That's most probably because the first hurdle to jump in terms of sound engineering at any venue is the natural acoustics of the room. People closer to the PA will be less affected by the room's resonance as they're closer to the sound source. They're not thinking "Oh, cool hipsters, we can impress them with our superior phase recognition DSP algorithms." Not that those are really used in a gig situation anyways... They'll be thinking "How can we get, on average, the best sound for everyone in the venue?"

However, if the sound tech is slightly less professional and if the desk is at the back of the room, the sound guys are gonna mix the sound as they hear it.

  On 4/11/2010 at 3:41 AM, Bob Dobalina said:

Shit ain't over mutha fucka.

Add to that Glade festival, Winchester, July 16th.

  On 4/12/2010 at 6:16 PM, feltcher said:

  On 4/11/2010 at 3:41 AM, Bob Dobalina said:

Shit ain't over mutha fucka.

 

Add to that Glade festival, Winchester, July 16th.

Add to that - http://www.beatink.com/events/autechre2010/index.html

  On 4/12/2010 at 6:38 PM, niversal said:

  On 4/12/2010 at 6:16 PM, feltcher said:

  On 4/11/2010 at 3:41 AM, Bob Dobalina said:

Shit ain't over mutha fucka.

 

Add to that Glade festival, Winchester, July 16th.

 

Add to that - http://www.beatink.com/events/autechre2010/index.html

  On 4/12/2010 at 6:51 PM, reimdont said:

  On 4/12/2010 at 6:38 PM, niversal said:

  On 4/12/2010 at 6:16 PM, feltcher said:

  On 4/11/2010 at 3:41 AM, Bob Dobalina said:

Shit ain't over mutha fucka.

 

Add to that Glade festival, Winchester, July 16th.

 

Add to that - http://www.beatink.com/events/autechre2010/index.html

Loving the translation from Japanese, Boy did I "cut some visibility Danceable Beats" at Nottingham Stealth:

Keep uppermost in electronic dance music, electronic unit by Rob Brown and Sean Booth, Autechre.

The two men started to Radiohead, by an immeasurable impact on the world's big artists, pop music and innovation also has been deepening.

Career spanning more than 20 years history Autechre, the tenth anniversary said that a total of [the most beautiful dance music Ovasuteppusu They'll finish, and then toured Europe for several years in March, Japan, June the triumphant return of the proudly serve! ! !

Complete darkness in two completely blocking the light "experiment" unfolds, you no longer familiar with the legendary live "jet" is a musical experience to present him again for sure.

The audience is free to cut visibility danceable beats and electronic sounds will continuously transformed, by squarely confronting the madness and the soundscape will meticulously assembled, and certain hearing and force Inspired by the brain, which stir one's imagination one sound ringing sound, and soon natural body "dance" to get. Yes, it's dance Autechre live.

This evening is certain to be sold out again this time, played a pioneer scenes contributed enormously to the birth of Detroit techno and Xing Sheng, Juan Atkins, Autechre's also an "experiment" to participate expressed.

Firmly established itself as being isolated in their respective genres, the minister meet to meet that milestone in 2010 when the legend has been in respect of both the deep significance, could not have 見逃Seru.

Improvise on the spur of the moment to express how the sound of new album, how the audience emotionally, "dance" or someone.

Constantly changing, to keep going stoic of Autechre, "Challenge," a creative and "resistance" kick off again! ! !

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Yes, it's dance Autechre live.

Yes, yes it is.

Autechre playing over Juan Atkins...what's the story there?

I'm a bit bummed out that the Manchester gig was flawed due to bad acoustics and badly set up PA and the later sets all seem to have much more in them musically although I still think there's a 'perfect' set in there somewhere instead of being just amazing in certain bits.

One could almost say the boys deliberately whack up the bass so it will fuck up the mics of twatty little bootleggers like us although I think its not too much to ask to have some highlight's from past tours given some proper official release. There's too much good material going to waste and it will help promote there future tours as only a few dates sold out this time from what I understand.

I hope I can get to Glade.

Ovasuteppusu! A triumph of visibility dance beats!

  On 4/12/2010 at 2:38 PM, futureimage said:

  On 4/12/2010 at 2:29 PM, Miblo said:

And yet it has seemed that the sound has been mixed (or at least the main volume set) for these further back places. Sound engineers should stop pandering to these fuckers who don't care about the music and instead make it sound wonderful for those who do. It's populism gone mad!

That's most probably because the first hurdle to jump in terms of sound engineering at any venue is the natural acoustics of the room. People closer to the PA will be less affected by the room's resonance as they're closer to the sound source. They're not thinking "Oh, cool hipsters, we can impress them with our superior phase recognition DSP algorithms." Not that those are really used in a gig situation anyways... They'll be thinking "How can we get, on average, the best sound for everyone in the venue?"

 

However, if the sound tech is slightly less professional and if the desk is at the back of the room, the sound guys are gonna mix the sound as they hear it.

These two things go hand in hand, don't they? I would suggest that it should really be mixed according to how it sounds at the centre of the room, or at least certainly not at the back. But since you're knowledgeable on the subject, futureimage, where would you say is the ideal place? Also, while we're on the subject: when sound-checking in an empty room, what are your thoughts on "beefing up the bass to compensate for it being soaked up when the room's full"? I say that's bullshit, with the suggestion that it would be the higher frequencies that would tend to be "soaked up", but what do you think? My logic is that when I'm outside a room I hear more of the bass coming out, and so assume that the treble simply doesn't have the power to get through.

  On 4/13/2010 at 2:43 AM, Greg Reason said:

Ovasuteppusu! A triumph of visibility dance beats!

Aye, indeed. However, my knowledge of the language is basically non-existent at best, but I don't think I was aware of there being a "va" kana in Japanese.

  On 4/14/2010 at 2:58 AM, Miblo said:

I would suggest that it should really be mixed according to how it sounds at the centre of the room, or at least certainly not at the back. But since you're knowledgeable on the subject, futureimage, where would you say is the ideal place? Also, while we're on the subject: when sound-checking in an empty room, what are your thoughts on "beefing up the bass to compensate for it being soaked up when the room's full"? I say that's bullshit, with the suggestion that it would be the higher frequencies that would tend to be "soaked up", but what do you think? My logic is that when I'm outside a room I hear more of the bass coming out, and so assume that the treble simply doesn't have the power to get through.

To be fair, in a small club it's just difficult to set up a sound system in the middle of the room. You'll have people walking all around, so if you want to keep your eyes open on what's going on around you at all times, it's pretty difficult. I've seen it done in bigger venues though (the O2 Academies usually have a setup like this) and it's pretty well done, but they've got enough security in the place to do that.

That's definitely bull about the bass being "soaked up". High frequencies will be dampened much more as they travel than low frequencies, but I'm pretty sure Ae have asked for the bass to be so immensely loud to put people off bootlegging this tour. Obviously it hasn't worked and people have still made recordings, but the quality of them isn't brilliant/as good as it has been on other tours.

How many lines does the sound engineer get from the stage at an Autechre show? I'd guess he gets a stereo signal, and can only adjust overall level/eq/compression.

yeah btw would there be some way to tap the sound from a PA other than the mixer outs? i.e., how could that ae soundguy be fooled?

cause at the Berlin show he was checking the mixer(s?) with a flashlight before they played, assumably to see if something got plugged in there..

  On 4/14/2010 at 1:20 PM, phling said:

yeah btw would there be some way to tap the sound from a PA other than the mixer outs? i.e., how could that ae soundguy be fooled?

 

cause at the Berlin show he was checking the mixer(s?) with a flashlight before they played, assumably to see if something got plugged in there..

nope there'd be no other way than going direct from the mixer...

well, there is another way, but i'm pretty sure Rob and Sean would notice if a recording device was sat there along with their gear up on the stage.

  On 4/14/2010 at 1:28 PM, oscillik said:

  On 4/14/2010 at 1:20 PM, phling said:

yeah btw would there be some way to tap the sound from a PA other than the mixer outs? i.e., how could that ae soundguy be fooled?

 

cause at the Berlin show he was checking the mixer(s?) with a flashlight before they played, assumably to see if something got plugged in there..

nope there'd be no other way than going direct from the mixer...

well, there is another way, but i'm pretty sure Rob and Sean would notice if a recording device was sat there along with their gear up on the stage.

If somehow someone got to the back of the PA (perhaps Ae's monitors?), as long as there's unused speaker link outputs, you could record from there. You'd have to have another box to take the speaker level down to line level, but I reckon without much security around you could do it. If you were caught, you'd be totally fucked though.

And I expect he was using the flashlight more to check everything was plugged in and all the levels were alright.

fuck, last time autechre played here i was standing right in front of the soundboard. i keep wishing i'd just slipped a cable into the 1/4" outs that were probably right next to me.. big dark room, bigass board with outputs on the rear, probably nobody would have even noticed

strictly for the sake of posterity of course.

  On 4/14/2010 at 2:41 PM, futureimage said:

  On 4/14/2010 at 1:28 PM, oscillik said:

  On 4/14/2010 at 1:20 PM, phling said:

yeah btw would there be some way to tap the sound from a PA other than the mixer outs? i.e., how could that ae soundguy be fooled?

 

cause at the Berlin show he was checking the mixer(s?) with a flashlight before they played, assumably to see if something got plugged in there..

nope there'd be no other way than going direct from the mixer...

well, there is another way, but i'm pretty sure Rob and Sean would notice if a recording device was sat there along with their gear up on the stage.

If somehow someone got to the back of the PA (perhaps Ae's monitors?), as long as there's unused speaker link outputs, you could record from there. You'd have to have another box to take the speaker level down to line level, but I reckon without much security around you could do it. If you were caught, you'd be totally fucked though.

 

And I expect he was using the flashlight more to check everything was plugged in and all the levels were alright.

the back of teh speakers

  On 4/14/2010 at 1:20 PM, phling said:

cause at the Berlin show he was checking the mixer(s?) with a flashlight before they played, assumably to see if something got plugged in there..

fucking lol

damn you b + b!