why do hipsters think its cool to use shit equiptment?

  On 8/2/2011 at 11:30 AM, soundwave said:

I was actually excited about that machine until I saw how they started marketing it. Reeeally fucking killed it for me. I'll doepfer's dorky electrical engineer's style any day.

  On 8/3/2011 at 11:35 AM, slightlydrybeans said:

  On 8/2/2011 at 11:30 AM, soundwave said:

 

I was actually excited about that machine until I saw how they started marketing it. Reeeally fucking killed it for me. I'll doepfer's dorky electrical engineer's style any day.

if it was a little less than half of what they're selling it for then i'd take it seriously but apparently the colour display sent it way over budget but that doesn't matter if you make it look cool enough for materialistic fools with student loans burning a hole in their pockets who don't know or care what it can do as long as it looks cool next to a mac (not having a go at mac owners btw)

Still much better investment than 303.

  On 8/4/2011 at 7:19 PM, Adam Beker said:

Still much better investment than 303.

I don't see 303's going down in price anytime soon.

The OP1 will be picked up for less than 70% of its original value in about 18 months.

Yeah but 303 is a monosynth with two waveforms, a filter and envelope. Op1 is

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Synthesizer and controller

 

8 built-in synthesizer engines, multiple effects and LFO’s. And some really unique sequencers ready to explore.

Connect it to your computer and control your DAW with the common play, stop, rec, forward and rewind. Use the 4 rotary encoders and 8 x 2 dedicated quick keys for fast selections.

Built in 4-track tape

 

Record everything on the built in 4-track tape. Match the tape speed to the sequencer clock for some really nice overdubbing with changing pitch. Change tapespeed while recording, or even record backwards in realtime. Switch to the 4 channel mixer and add som texture with the built in EQ and Drive.

All in one portable

 

OP-1 is the all-in-one portable Synthesizer, Sampler and Controller. With additional features like the FM Radio and an assignable G-Force sensor for motion controlled effects. With OP-1’s built-in Tape feature you are able to record everything you do on to the 4 tracks, with overdubbing, reverse recording

Drag and drop

 

When plugged to a mac/pc using USB, the OP-1 shows up as a mass storage device. Ready for you to drag and drop audio files between your computer and the OP-1. The 4 tape tracks are available as well as sampled waveforms for you to manipulate. No additional software or drivers required. Just plug and play.

Color coded interface

 

The unique OP-1 color coded interface with color graphics on the beautiful OLED display is direct related to the four color rotary encoders and the legend on the keyboard. Easy reading and a non-technical way to control and shape your sounds. Finally, you don’t have to be a scientist to use a synthesizer.

16 Hours Battery Power

 

Playing at maximum volume you can travel over the atlantic ocean two ways constantly making music on your OP-1 before it runs out ouf power. And at the same time have over 2 years of stand by time.

what the fuck is wrong with you?

303 is lovely but i wouldn't pay more than $500 for it unless i were at the point where i could build forts out of $100 bills

what if there were a device that added a step sequencer to a 101? a widget with jacks sticking out to match the cv in/outs of the 101, some buttons to set things....

It doesn't really have a 4 track tape. It'd be cool if it did though.

edit: the OP-1

if that spec list didn't smell like teenage engineering bullshit it might be worth $500 also yes

  On 8/4/2011 at 7:57 PM, soundwave said:

  On 8/4/2011 at 7:19 PM, Adam Beker said:

Still much better investment than 303.

 

I don't see 303's going down in price anytime soon.

 

The OP1 will be picked up for less than 70% of its original value in about 18 months.

just build ($250) / buy ($600) a xoxbox

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT141CXrgc4&feature=related

why is there nothing like the xoxbox that's pre-assembled and costs $500?

i was initially somewhat interested, but there was a wait list, and it was expensive! i bought an SH-101 instead

  On 8/5/2011 at 11:00 AM, hahathhat said:

why is there nothing like the xoxbox that's pre-assembled and costs $500?

maybe to keep the sound exclusive to acid veterans

  On 8/5/2011 at 11:04 AM, Bubz said:

  On 8/5/2011 at 11:00 AM, hahathhat said:

why is there nothing like the xoxbox that's pre-assembled and costs $500?

maybe to keep the sound exclusive to acid veterans

Acid Conspiracy 12" out soon on Riced Out Records

I don't understand these 303 clones at all, if you're buying a hardware synth, why not get something more flexible? The main reason for getting a 303 is because it's sexy as fuck. I'm sure your computer is able to run phoscyon or audio realism bassline.

  On 8/5/2011 at 11:00 AM, hahathhat said:

why is there nothing like the xoxbox that's pre-assembled and costs $500?

 

i was initially somewhat interested, but there was a wait list, and it was expensive! i bought an SH-101 instead

http://forum.watmm.com/topic/67949-for-sale-x0xb0x/page__pid__1631472#entry1631472

i'm more than happy with my TBX303 tho a devilfish would be nice i really don't like the 303's sequencer

think there's a nice one on ebay at the mo

Well if you use cheap small gear, it forces you to interact in a different way with your equipment which makes it a totally different experience & gives different results. I think the goal there is to try to find a different path, since powerfull computer technology makes good powerfull tools at the reach of anyone, going the opposite route is a way to react to that. I have a lot of small cheap gear myself (mostly small porta keyboards from Yamaha) & I feel they have something special, a very raw sound that can be usefull in particular situations. But I use this equipment with my computer, FL Studio & a MIDI controller. I just sample one-shots & the likes to load in Fruity.

  On 8/11/2011 at 5:38 PM, SampleScience said:

Well if you use cheap small gear, it forces you to interact in a different way with your equipment which makes it a totally different experience & gives different results. I think the goal there is to try to find a different path, since powerfull computer technology makes good powerfull tools at the reach of anyone, going the opposite route is a way to react to that. I have a lot of small cheap gear myself (mostly small porta keyboards from Yamaha) & I feel they have something special, a very raw sound that can be usefull in particular situations. But I use this equipment with my computer, FL Studio & a MIDI controller. I just sample one-shots & the likes to load in Fruity.

I agree. I've played an entire live set with a Portasound, loop pedal and cheap Behringer guitar pedals. It's a good, cheap way to replicate stuff like Cluster / Tangerine Dream etc. Not exactly the same of course, but still a lot of fun.

http://i.ebayimg.com...6bmbHw~~_35.JPG

woot this aint't sexy? 60 bucks acid, pure Love

Were throbbing gristle hipsters? Well, yeah. :) It just goes to show how ridiculous and useless that word is. What most people seem to be saying when they use that word is "this is different than me, I don't like it or understand it and I don't want to".

The sad thing is that most modern "hipsters" have just strip mined creative culture of the past and have turned artistic reactions into consumer culture. These people are the preppies, jocks and frat boy of the 80ies and 90ies. Don't bro me MFer. If something is ruined by idiots over taking it, it wasn't a strong enough concept in the first place and that just means we have to try harder and come up with better solutions. The ironic part is that it was the original hipsters or fans of them getting into positions of power and selling down their ideas that did this.

Comedic irony was played out a long time ago and it's a good way to pick out the people to avoid. Tragic irony is where it's at.

Some people use crappy gear on a misguided quest for authenticity, either consciously or subconsciously. In a way it's sorta like wearing jeans, most people don't work hard enough to need rugged clothing like that, but the fashion took off as people wanted to appear part of the class that was wearing them. Then as time went on you got distressed jeans, at exorbitant prices, as if you had spent a life time working. We saw that carry over to guitars and we're starting to see that happen to electronic gear. Analog fetishism (which is rampant) is only a hop, skip and jump away from crap gear fetishism.

I don't think that's the case with the op-1, come on, it's only 800 bucks and everyone I've talked to that's used it has had a lot of fun with it. Most people have probably spent more on computer plus software. I do hate that advertisement with a passion though. That and the fact that I have a more or less perfect setup now is what keeps me from getting one.

As a side note, I remember when I got into IDM the quality of the forums was much better, but this was back when it was cool, natch. Some of this is like some prog rock/metal discussion or maybe dickussion.

  On 8/24/2011 at 11:33 PM, Jonah said:

As a side note, I remember when I got into IDM the quality of the forums was much better, but this was back when it was cool, natch. Some of this is like some prog rock/metal discussion or maybe dickussion.

Easy guy, don't judge the forum by this one thread. Not everyone on here agrees with it.

Also, please read the rules.

  On 8/5/2011 at 10:14 AM, hahathhat said:

what if there were a device that added a step sequencer to a 101?

An SH-101 with a step sequencer? So... an MC-202, then? Or is that your point, that the MC-202's essentially a more versatile beast when it comes to doing what a TB-303 does? I never had an MC-202, but can certainly vouch for an SH-101 being much more interesting than a TB-303. When you get bored of basslines and acidlines, it'll also make oldfashioned electronic percussion for you (mmm, filtered white noise), and you can actually play it live too.

  On 8/26/2011 at 10:41 AM, ZoeB said:

  On 8/5/2011 at 10:14 AM, hahathhat said:

what if there were a device that added a step sequencer to a 101?

 

An SH-101 with a step sequencer? So... an MC-202, then? Or is that your point, that the MC-202's essentially a more versatile beast when it comes to doing what a TB-303 does? I never had an MC-202, but can certainly vouch for an SH-101 being much more interesting than a TB-303. When you get bored of basslines and acidlines, it'll also make oldfashioned electronic percussion for you (mmm, filtered white noise), and you can actually play it live too.

the 202's sequencer is charming and wacky, but that's not what i meant.

there's that little step-down ledge where all the SH101's jacks are. i was just thinking it'd be cool to have a little box that plugs into most of the jacks there, and rests over where it says "VCF VCA ENV." there would be buttons and a little LCD for programming sequences, but it'd also have a USB interface so you could upload midi files 'n' stuff.

adding a midi interface to the SH101 is probably a much more sane idea; i just like imagining up bits of gear.

Ah, well there are always elaborate MIDI to CV converters...

Can this fucking braindead retarded thread die already? Every time I see it at the top of the page I cringe. Fucking quit posting shit here.