School Shooting in Connecticut

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this is faek right?

  On 12/17/2012 at 6:19 PM, The Overlook said:

hardcore

MAN

We need an official gun owners thread

guns r manly and you fucking americans wonder why everyone hates/ makes fun of u jeeeeeeeeeesus christ

  On 12/17/2012 at 6:26 PM, RichieBees said:

guns r manly and you fucking americans wonder why everyone hates/ makes fun of u jeeeeeeeeeesus christ

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  On 12/17/2012 at 6:26 PM, RichieBees said:

guns r manly and you fucking americans wonder why everyone hates/ makes fun of u jeeeeeeeeeesus christ

lol that is nowhere near the reason why everyone hates us. Most sensible people here don't feed into the gun = manly image either. Of course you would never be on board with such an idea if it were true, as that would classify the entire UK as a bunch of sissies due to your gun ban.

  On 12/17/2012 at 6:22 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

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this is faek right?

Reflecting on this, I had this thought:

When was the last non-US school shooting? Wasn't it that nut in the Netherlands who killed those kids on that island?

If that was it, when was the one before it (anywhere outside the US)?

I'd be curious if this was a uniquely American phenomenon, and if any correlation between our obsession with gun ownership, and the (mis)guided belief that owning a gun equals "freedom" and "right to bear arms" makes America a better, safer place.

What really scares me is how gun sales go through the roof after one of these tragedies - only because the gun nuts fear their precious guns will be taken away from them by the government.

There's the Dunblane school shooting in Scotland a while back. That's the only one I can think of over here.

It isn't a America only phenomenon. I know there's been a lot in Germany. But America sure is number one by some distance.

There's some lists here:

United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

Rest of the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting

  On 12/17/2012 at 7:16 PM, Npoess said:

It isn't a America only phenomenon. I know there's been a lot in Germany. But America sure is number one by some distance.

 

There's a list here:

 

United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

 

Rest of the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting

lol

The US needs a page on its own. That's just sick.

freedom isnt free

  On 12/17/2012 at 7:11 PM, Obel said:

There's the Dunblane school shooting in Scotland a while back. That's the only one I can think of over here.

After which we banned handguns, and it never happened again. Funny that.

  On 12/17/2012 at 7:09 PM, Joyrex said:

What really scares me is how gun sales go through the roof after one of these tragedies - only because the gun nuts fear their precious guns will be taken away from them by the government.

Gun sales went up after Obama got elected. Gun sales also went up because it is Thursday. Gun sales will keep increasing due to rational fears of a big government being a bigger threat to the nation than individuals who would rather not leave the defense of their loved ones in the hands of some high school drop out police officer.

  On 12/17/2012 at 7:21 PM, goDel said:

  On 12/17/2012 at 7:16 PM, Npoess said:

It isn't a America only phenomenon. I know there's been a lot in Germany. But America sure is number one by some distance.

 

There's a list here:

 

United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

 

Rest of the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting

lol

 

The US needs a page on its own. That's just sick.

I actually think that kind of proves it's a problem with gun control. Which some has been quite dismissive of.

Of course it's a human problem, and not just a United States problem. But as long as some of these nut-cases has easy accessibility to guns, it's going to continue, to be a bigger problem in the US. It's easier to do a massacre with handguns/automatic weapons, than a knife (stating the obvious).

And I'm not being anti-american. I actually really love the US. But the gun fascination (and I'm just repeating myself) is just something I will never understand.

Anyway.. this continued gun control debate, is probably tiring to some. So I will stop now.

lol randy waht are u like i hope u dont accidetly kill someone one day because u thought they were a baddie and it was just your kid going for a glass of water or whatever : >

  On 12/17/2012 at 7:41 PM, RichieBees said:

lol randy waht are u like i hope u dont accidetly kill someone one day because u thought they were a baddie and it was just your kid going for a glass of water or whatever : >

hi sup

  On 12/17/2012 at 6:26 PM, RichieBees said:

guns r manly and you fucking americans wonder why everyone hates/ makes fun of u jeeeeeeeeeesus christ

I thought it was because of George Dubya.

Anyway, guns and bravado are a recipe for disaster. Responsible gun owners are level-headed, rational, and aware that there are strict rules of safety to proper handling of a firearm.

If some dude depends on guns to prove their manliness, then something is fuct up here. Guns aren't toys.

  On 12/17/2012 at 7:41 PM, ambermonk said:

Responsible gun owners are level-headed, rational, and aware that there are strict rules of safety to proper handling of a firearm.

lolwut? Um, is this supposed to be reassuring?

  Obel said:

  lumpenprol said:

But mostly because the times that I've held and shot one, I've always felt this strange magnetism to blow my own head off or shoot someone near me.

I love that. Comes from the same impulse I get of jumping into train tracks when fast trains are plowing through, or jumping off high ledges. Fucking mad.

 

 

 

i think all you guys have attested to is that YOU shouldn't have guns. not everyone has the same type of psychotic impulses.

for those non-americans or people who haven't been to america, there is really no way to rationalize the current "gun" debate in the US. i posted the below to one of the many FB threads about this though:

there are 2 issues i have with the gun debate - the 2nd amendment (and the whole bill of rights) were created because the founding fathers were scared that an organized government presence was going to rule their lives, like it did under the brits. (remember the anti federalists?) they were also scared of the crazies, but americas commitment to guns is nothing more than commitment to personal technological advantage.

it is impossible to argue that we need guns so that we can prevent government intrusion into our private lives. the purpose of guns in 2012 is such that the 2nd amendment no longer applies in its original context. who is going to oppose the US gov't with firearms? so america must redefine *why* guns are necessary (especially in densely populated areas).

the main question that has to be asked is - is the purpose of guns useful enough that it offsets the danger?

the answer is easy with cars and planes and drill presses, but each are potentially lethal through misuse/malicious use.

  On 12/17/2012 at 7:53 PM, sweepstakes said:

  On 12/17/2012 at 7:41 PM, ambermonk said:

Responsible gun owners are level-headed, rational, and aware that there are strict rules of safety to proper handling of a firearm.

lolwut? Um, is this supposed to be reassuring?

Takes one to know one.

  On 12/17/2012 at 7:16 PM, Npoess said:

It isn't a America only phenomenon. I know there's been a lot in Germany. But America sure is number one by some distance.

 

There's a list here:

 

United States: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

 

Rest of the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting

holy fuck. okay, so i still think that gun control is a problem, but holy shit. america what the fuck are you doing.

of course, there's always the idea that we have a pretty high percentage of upper-class population, and maybe some in other countries just don't get reported? anyway, what the fuck.

  On 12/17/2012 at 7:26 PM, RichieBees said:

freedom isnt free

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