School Shooting in Connecticut

Why not tighten up on gun control AND attempt to provide counselling for those who need it? I'm sure most people who are pro gun control are also pro help-those-who-need-help people. These are both core problems... though I wager gun control would diminish the death toll a lot faster, so I get why that's the bigger focus for most people. Case in point: the guy who went on a similar rampage in China on the same day injured 22 children, killing none of them (as opposed to all of them) because a knife simply isn't as effective a killing machine as a gun. So yeah, "people kill people" but giving everyone easy access to guns enable them to do it a lot more efficiently. (not sure if it's already been posted here or not, but here's an article on the China rampage: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-attacks-22-kids-knife-china-school-article-1.1220230)

And yeah, try to provide proper health care for these people too, obviously. That's still only going to prevent a very small percentage of this shit from happening, as it's going to be pretty tough to identify who needs what help on a massive scale.

  On 12/16/2012 at 9:21 AM, vamos scorcho said:

please, everybody watch that video.

I was gonna watch it until you said that.

Westboro will be picketing the Sandy Hook Funerals with 'Children Killed For Fag Marriage' signs...

http://www.inquisitr.com/440355/westboro-baptist-church-to-picket-sandy-hook-elementary-praise-god-for-shooting/

Wow.

TURN OFF THE NEWS.......

Morgan Freeman's brilliant take on what happened :

"You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.

and by "Morgan Freeman" of course you mean "someone who decided to put Morgan Freeman's name on it"

  On 12/16/2012 at 10:18 AM, LimpyLoo said:

and by "Morgan Freeman" of course you mean "someone who decided to put Morgan Freeman's name on it"

IDK maybe. It does have a point though.

  On 12/16/2012 at 10:20 AM, ZiggomaticV17 said:

 

  On 12/16/2012 at 10:18 AM, LimpyLoo said:

and by "Morgan Freeman" of course you mean "someone who decided to put Morgan Freeman's name on it"

IDK maybe. It does have a point though.

 

indeed

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naw I'd believe it was actually him. He's been doing a lot of political stuff lately.

can't wait for ~2 hour youtube videos with tens of thousands of likes explaining how this shooting is a gov. conspiracy against the 2nd amendment

That conspiracy pisses me off more than any other conspiracy ever has.

just because someone goes crazy with a gun and easily kills loads of kids doesnt mean we have to talk about guns in society

i blame the (liberal) media : )

what does gay marriage have to do with this?

Nothing. Westboro act under freedom of speech to incite violence towards them so they can sue people. They're a family of lawyers and they troll for work. People should be ignoring them until they go away.

  On 12/16/2012 at 2:57 PM, Obel said:

Nothing. Westboro act under freedom of speech to incite violence towards them so they can sue people. They're a family of lawyers and they troll for work. People should be ignoring them until they go away.

exactly.

those motorbikers should drown them out into nothingness like they did for the soldiers' funerals a while back. Westboro are the lowest of the low.

what happened to freedom of speech ;'(((((((((((( or is it more of a freedom fo speech if u say things we agree with ; ) (trollin)

or rather "freedom to shoot"

*trolls miserably*

what is life i dont even

clearly a direct link between this and that cancelled Hitman marketing campaign.

It is a bit of an impossibly fucked up cultural canvas we present to kids in 2012.

Your average modern 8 year-old could access this story on their iPhone, then walk into their neighborhood video store and see this on the first shelf, as I did yesterday afternoon.

It's pretty fucking eery.

  On 12/16/2012 at 5:55 AM, YO303 said:

 

  On 12/16/2012 at 5:30 AM, messiaen said:

 

 

  On 12/16/2012 at 5:21 AM, YO303 said:

 

Why is it always that with this types of tragedies the argument turns into a gun argument? are we really that simple and stupid to think is that black and white? are we really so gullible that the media controls our arguments as a society?

 

Maybe deaths could have been prevented by having gun control but little could have prevented this guy from going insane and killing a bunch of people. In my opinion we should spend more time exploring the psychology of the shooter and figure out a way to prevent/predict insane moments like the one in CT by preventing mentally unstable people from reaching that point (either with medication, therapy or whatever).

 

Its so easy to blame this on things like guns and video games, thats the easy way out, the safe opinion. Watching you guys (and people on facebook) keep mentioning guns is making me so aggravated, you guys are just following the media storyline, people will argue about guns for a while then they'll forget about the whole thing and nothing will be accomplished because the real arguments, the arguments that could matter are not being discussed.

 

By turning this tragedy into a gun argument we are missing way more important points, we are making the same mistake we did before, and when the next tragedy comes we'll make the same mistake again.

im sorry but when was the last time anyone in, and i take this as an example and i come from here, britain, slaughtered over ten people in a school/shopping centre/train station. there is clearly psychopaths everywhere, but the inability to obtain ballistic weaponry has blatantly made a serious difference in the ability to pull that shit off.

 

 

i have just remembered 7/7 but i feel like terrorists with bombs is a reasonably different issue here.

 

If someone is determined to go out and kill a bunch of people they'll do it. In this case was guns but it could have easily been a home made bomb. The guy who shoot up that theater had the ability to make a home-made bomb which could have killed everybody in that screening. Also there are cases all over the world of people going in rampages and killing people, those cases are not high profile because there is nothing in it for the media. (the only high profile case outside the US i can think of right now was that guy in Germany a couple of years ago)

 

The united states has a bigger population than countries in Europe hence the increase in possibility of mental unsuitability (similar to why India has so many deformities). The Untied States also has a collective stress that makes people go Michael Douglas in Falling Down. (example - that guy who flew a plane into a IRS building .. no guns, just a unstable minded guy determined to make a point)

i agree with you so much. it's super disappointing that we're making this about guns. there is very little at the present time that we can do about gun control because enforcing strict gun control laws would be about as difficult as enforcing laws prohibiting illegal drugs, know what i mean? i think taking steps to just talk about mental illness and letting people know that they're not alone or hopeless or whatever when they have abnormal thoughts would be more helpful and effective.

  On 12/16/2012 at 4:34 PM, The Overlook said:

It is a bit of an impossibly fucked up cultural canvas we present to kids in 2012.

 

Your average modern 8 year-old could access this story on their iPhone, then walk into their neighborhood video store and see this on the first shelf, as I did yesterday afternoon.

 

 

It's pretty fucking eery.

Fuck off, kids have always been exposed to violence since the dawn of time, the fact that we don't train 5 kids to kill people like we used to do is a step forward.

Millions of people play violent video games or watch violent movies and they don't shoot up schools. Don't blame art forms for the acts of a few unstable people.

no u fuk off *rat-tat-tat-tat*

but I think Hoodie and others are on the right track with this though...guns are the medium through which these violent acts are carried out; regardless of the weapon used and its capacity for increasing increments of violence, there is still the initial will to harm, maim, or kill.

the psychological phenomenon of US public shootings goes far, far deeper than a mere mechanical weapon. So deep that I'm not even sure where to start....people calling for mental health reform are on the right track.