June 2014 - "New Shit Is Imminent" - Richard D. James

  On 7/7/2014 at 1:27 PM, psn said:

 

  On 7/7/2014 at 12:39 PM, hoggy said:

 

  On 7/7/2014 at 11:39 AM, chim said:

What he actually meant to say was "New shit is immanent". Richard has abandoned music for philosophy now.

That's a very highbrow joke chim

New shit is immanuelkant.

 

Fuck. He wasn't talking about music at all, he was talking about his new tattoo

RDJ already said this to a guy or another in the past,

not sure it wasn't true either, he certainly has some music to release, but i guess he declined the deals at the last minute,

the expectation is so high from fans, this is why he hesitates imo

plus the caustic window showed up lately,

pretty sure him or whatever the label involved will hold tight now

it's pure speculation, and it's the purpose of this tread, if not trolling ;)

  On 7/7/2014 at 5:13 PM, klore said:

RDJ already said this to a guy or another in the past,

not sure it wasn't true either, he certainly has some music to release, but i guess he declined the deals at the last minute,

 

the expectation is so high from fans, this is why he hesitates imo

plus the caustic window showed up lately,

pretty sure him or whatever the label involved will hold tight now

 

it's pure speculation, and it's the purpose of this tread, if not trolling ;)

All true!

However Joyrex isn't just "a guy or another".

He is in direct contact with these artists.

Examples:

BoC record store day etc etc

Autechre AAA

CWLP kickstarter viral marketing thing

etc

he certainly is, i no mean to offend anyone,

i'm new here so i'm learning step by step

according to what you're saying, he knew about those stuff before if to goes live online

which means, RDJ controls pretty well his online exposure, im not surprised, pretty sure he's somewhere on this forum, or lurking.

i personally hope a Selected Ambient work III but it's my personal taste ;)

yeah but (i'd like to think) rdj wouldn't just say to joyrex, who runs watmm and i imagine lots of people lurk here for info on boc etc and give him permission to tell us he said this as a throw comment, i hope this vague bit of information is a nice gift to us after cw and soon warp will start some boc style campaign and we'll all be reading about 'who is aphex twin' in the guardian etc, does anyone know if there are release dates on warp post rustie?

I FUCKING HOPE SO BECAUSE MY HOPES ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY HIGH

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For me personally, there's a distinct difference between Aphex Twin and AFX music, also I don't think there's any legal trouble regarding the name, I won't believe anything until there's proof.

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As you started working with WARP you signed a contract for six albums, right?

"I should have given them two or three albums - I can't remember. Before I gave this album

to them I said: 'When I am going to give you this album, you have to let me go." (laughs)

I thought they would say: 'No fucking way. We sue you!'"

 

What does that mean?

"I didn't give them an album in 3 years now. I told them: 'OK, I give you an double album

but then you have to let me release my other stuff on my own label.' And they just said:

'OK'. I also tried to talk to Warner Bros (Richard's record label in Japan and the US) as

well but they weren't that easy to persuade. I told them something like: 'I want to do

Aphex Twin on Rephlex.". But they just said: 'No way. we bought you, we own you.' We

discussed it a lot. I said: 'If you don't say yes you ain't getting anything in future

from me.' And they said: 'Alright, then we just don't get anything from you.' I'm allowed

to use AFX on Rephlex so I just focus on this."

 

He has to use other stuff on Rephlex. Period. He released a small part of Analord under Aphex Twin, but a whole album would very probably be out of the question. Warner Bros. have absolutely zero to lose giving him Aphex Twin back since he has no interest in releasing with them. Or had no interest anyway. I imagine he still can't use Aphex Twin in 2014 unless he does a big release on Warp or something.

  On 7/7/2014 at 8:08 PM, Brisbot said:

 

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For me personally, there's a distinct difference between Aphex Twin and AFX music, also I don't think there's any legal trouble regarding the name, I won't believe anything until there's proof.

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As you started working with WARP you signed a contract for six albums, right?

"I should have given them two or three albums - I can't remember. Before I gave this album

to them I said: 'When I am going to give you this album, you have to let me go." (laughs)

I thought they would say: 'No fucking way. We sue you!'"

 

What does that mean?

"I didn't give them an album in 3 years now. I told them: 'OK, I give you an double album

but then you have to let me release my other stuff on my own label.' And they just said:

'OK'. I also tried to talk to Warner Bros (Richard's record label in Japan and the US) as

well but they weren't that easy to persuade. I told them something like: 'I want to do

Aphex Twin on Rephlex.". But they just said: 'No way. we bought you, we own you.' We

discussed it a lot. I said: 'If you don't say yes you ain't getting anything in future

from me.' And they said: 'Alright, then we just don't get anything from you.' I'm allowed

to use AFX on Rephlex so I just focus on this."

 

 

He has to use other stuff on Rephlex. Period. He released a small part of Analord under Aphex Twin, but a whole album would very probably be out of the question. Warner Bros. have absolutely zero to lose giving him Aphex Twin back since he has no interest in releasing with them. Or had no interest anyway. I imagine he still can't use Aphex Twin in 2014 unless he does a big release on Warp or something.

 

Interesting!

http://www.discogs.com/Aphex-Twin-Analord-10/release/377967

Also, when you look at Analord 10, you see that it was released in the UK as in I think only distributed in the UK? It was also a limited release. So yeah, that could explain his use of Aphex Twin. Maybe.

That's another reason there hasn't been a Warner Aphex Twin release since DrukQs... DrukQs was supposed to be the follow-up to Windowlicker in 1999, but obviously didn't come out until 2 years later.

I think any "ownership" of the Aphex Twin name by Warner is over now (since he delivered his promised album in exchange for the 90K advance they gave him, albeit a few years later than they wanted), so I imagine if he wanted to, he could release something new on WARP as Aphex Twin now.

But could he release something on Rephlex as Aphex Twin?

I don't think Rich would troll Joyrex. He may have fun with music hacks but I don't think he'd directly lie to him (Joyrex). At least I hope not.

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That's another reason there hasn't been a Warner Aphex Twin release since DrukQs... DrukQs was supposed to be the follow-up to Windowlicker in 1999, but obviously didn't come out until 2 years later.

I think any "ownership" of the Aphex Twin name by Warner is over now (since he delivered his promised album in exchange for the 90K advance they gave him, albeit a few years later than they wanted), so I imagine if he wanted to, he could release something new on WARP as Aphex Twin now.

I thought he could have always released under Aphex Twin under Warp? Also, I thought he has like 2 LP's left before he has name right back.

I bought my Analord 10 + Binder by The Aphex Aphex Twin from Warp. How does that work?

i think the music will point the moniker

Aphex Twin = ambiant / electro

AFX = loads of ACIIID

Caustic Window = odlschool machine sound

new name = new sort of music whatevs

what's for sure is any label would prefer the Aphex Twin moniker

i also think this name brand war is over with warp, i mean it's over a decade right ? don't think warp can own this for ever

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i think the music will point the moniker

Aphex Twin = ambiant / electro

AFX = loads of ACIIID

Caustic Window = odlschool machine sound

new name = new sort of music whatevs

what's for sure is any label would prefer the Aphex Twin moniker

i also think this name brand war is over with warp, i mean it's over a decade right ? don't think warp can own this for ever

He's released Acid under Aphex and his crazier stuff under AFX as well. Would he just stop releasing a certain kind of music if he doesn't have access to a name? Also, who knows their contracts 'expiration date'. They agreed to a number of albums, but there's no mention of a date of any sort. We won't know until he releases a full length as Aphex on Rephlex.

Like I said before though, I don't think Warp is the issue. It's probably Warner Bros. Which means he would be free to distribute his music in Europe with Aphex Twin under Rephlex as Warp aren't the dicks here, but not Japan or the US. Which would suck for me thanks!

  On 7/7/2014 at 11:37 PM, klore said:

Aphex Twin = ambiant / electro

Jesus

  On 7/7/2014 at 11:37 PM, klore said:

Aphex Twin = ambiant / electro

AFX = loads of ACIIID

Caustic Window = odlschool machine sound

new name = new sort of music whatevs

 

This simplifies his music way too much.

  On 7/7/2014 at 11:37 PM, klore said:

i think the music will point the moniker

 

Aphex Twin = ambiant / electro

AFX = loads of ACIIID

Caustic Window = odlschool machine sound

new name = new sort of music whatevs

 

*drinks*

we all have our ways to describe music, to me electro mean pretty much everymusic made with a synth,

genres in music is a source of arguing, everyone and their mum has something different to say about it, same as me

at the end, RDJ has made nothing but electronic music because it's made with electronic gears, excepted few piano gorgeous shenanigans and telephone pranks

i see peeps coming here thinking bad thing about me, don't care, i respect RDJ way enough and i really have understood his music, it's not that mysterious and complex, this is why it's pure genious

i hope the new stuff has lots of #2A52BE and #E32636 in it

  On 7/8/2014 at 2:00 AM, balbulus said:

 

As a long-term fan since the early 90s, I've always ignored the different monikers and filed everything under Aphex Twin. The different monikers were just his way of releasing music on different labels. Any variation in sound/style between the different monikers is no greater than that between the actual "Aphex Twin" releases.

And yes, I have read the rules.

 

Have you read them again?

I'm not sure I agree with you though. Every alias seems to have a distinct sound?

  On 7/8/2014 at 2:04 AM, StephenG said:

 

I'm not sure I agree with you though. Every alias seems to have a distinct sound?

 

IMO, not really. Maybe the original Caustic Window stuff was consistently a little harder than the rest, but the "new" album just sounds like classic Aphex Twin to me. I've certainly never seen any difference between Aphex Twin and AFX -- that really was just about the label. The same with Polygon Window; at the time he was still signed to R&S and couldn't use the Aphex Twin name.

But, if people want to assign different sounds to different monikers, I guess that's up to them.

unless Joyrex states otherwise, I think the best answer is that the alias has nothing to do with the type of music other than a sort of title-sound that might reflect the mood.

add the legal weirdness into the mixture, and it further dillutes any significance, all educated people agree on that wouldn't you agree?

  On 7/8/2014 at 2:20 AM, skibby said:

unless Joyrex states otherwise, I think the best answer is that the alias has nothing to do with the type of music other than a sort of title-sound that might reflect the mood.

 

add the legal weirdness into the mixture, and it further dillutes any significance, all educated people agree on that wouldn't you agree?

AFX releases - Analogue Bubblebath series... Analords. Smojphace.

Aphex releases - Selected ambient works 1 and 2, ICBYD, RDJ Album, Drukqs.

I see a distinct difference in the stylings of those releases. Yes there are many more releases, I know.