monoppus Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 10:45 AM, eclipsis said: Anyone got Draft 7.30 vibes from acdwn2? yes indeed! and the opening electro from AE_Live. The AC unit was down. Draft always felt a bit humid n stuffy to me. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 3:20 PM, Amen Lare said: elseq 1 is 7.0 - OK, i got that, rather straightforward elseq 2 has 6.6 - eh? I guees it looks nice, also shows that it's a bit worse 6.9 for elseq 3 - porn reference? 7.1 for elseq 4 - maybe it has to do with quantity of tracks on EP, you need at least 5 for a 7 6.8 for elseq 5 - so they all have different ratings, something interesting is in the baking According to my calculations the overall rating is 6.88 8 + 8 = 16 => 1 6 6 + 6 = 12 12 * 1 = 12 Twelb revealed Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) For the first time since Confield, I am now under the impression with elseq we have something IDM will benefit from for a long time. So much new input, new ideas, new sounds... They are giving so much. Didn't have that feeling with any Ae album after Confield. Ae bring the whole IDM business a step forward now. As for the production: To me it feels like they enhanced their life stuff in studio. It's unimportant though. Edited May 28, 2016 by Guest Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 IDM is dead though Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 There's potentially a recursive acronym in there. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaldedBorneo Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 3:33 PM, monoppus said: On 5/28/2016 at 10:45 AM, eclipsis said: Anyone got Draft 7.30 vibes from acdwn2? yes indeed! and the opening electro from AE_Live. The AC unit was down. Draft always felt a bit humid n stuffy to me. Really? I'm not getting any Draft 7.30 vibes from here at all. Wondering where you guys are hearing that from, but whatever, everyone always hears Autechre songs completely differently. Also I like the idea of Draft being humid and stuffy. I might think about that next time I listen to it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) what if each download copy is actually different and we're all hearing different versions of those tracks? Edited May 28, 2016 by eugene Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOS Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) What if Pitchfork is trolled to oblivion and was handed a live jam made exclusively with sounds from an old people's home? Edited May 28, 2016 by IOS Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) what if pitchfork came up with an intelligent, generative algorithm that generates autechre album reviews using the data of relevant watmm threads and that review is the result? Edited May 28, 2016 by eugene Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monoppus Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 5:20 PM, ScaldedBorneo said: Really? I'm not getting any Draft 7.30 vibes from here at all. Wondering where you guys are hearing that from, but whatever, everyone always hears Autechre songs completely differently. Also I like the idea of Draft being humid and stuffy. I might think about that next time I listen to it. mmmm...the way the hip hopping clockwork multi synchro geared beats roll out while the bass glide hill waves crest under the aircraft as we tour the grounds? sure.... yeah.. tough stuff to clarify to others.. the sound pallete is current Ae style, but the relationships between elements feel Draft-y to me this morning. Someone earlier posted that they thought acdwn2 was a varation on the opening bit of the AE_live material..I totally feel that too, espacially at the beginning of the track. And yeah we all hear em differently...Ae seem to really play with this phenomenon in their work Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest totemcrackerjack Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) mesh cinereaL sounds like the war drums of an alien caliphate. I keep thinking of the Persian empire for some reason. Hell, all of elseq 3 gives off a middle eastern vibe. Edited May 28, 2016 by totemcrackerjack Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugene Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 rob yawning @ 24:45 of elyc6 0nset. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Lare Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 6:39 PM, eugene said: rob yawning @ 24:45 of elyc6 0nset. Him or his stomach, those finishing touches are rather gaseous Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 5:57 PM, eugene said: what if pitchfork came up with an intelligent, generative algorithm that generates autechre album reviews using the data of relevant watmm threads and that review is the result? lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 inb4 seanAE finally makes a thread and explains the reasoning behind the pricing and all the complainers say they'd pay 60 bucks for the MP3s cause they deserve it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehauntingsoul Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 11:59 AM, wredny said: There it is. The Pitchforks have spoken: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21950-elseq-1-5/ I'm sure it's not just me who thinks this, but rating music on a 1-10 scale is the dumbest thing ever. It makes sense for video games, movies, tv shows, but music is far less constrained than those media. Apart from the mastering and sound quality, there's almost no objective qualities of music. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide thehauntingsoul's signature Hide all signatures Last.fm SteamID: Thehauntingsoul My EP Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest totemcrackerjack Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) On 5/28/2016 at 7:17 PM, thehauntingsoul said: On 5/28/2016 at 11:59 AM, wredny said: There it is. The Pitchforks have spoken: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21950-elseq-1-5/ I'm sure it's not just me who thinks this, but rating music on a 1-10 scale is the dumbest thing ever. It makes sense for video games, movies, tv shows, but music is far less constrained than those media. Apart from the mastering and sound quality, there's almost no objective qualities of music. Bu-but how else will I have my music taste validated? Edited May 28, 2016 by totemcrackerjack Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 7:01 PM, VIII said: i think $33 for digital was a bit much... i'd rather have a 2xLP for that price, or another box set like exai warp is really taking advantage of the autechre "brand" and they can get away with it too Yawn. Can someone who cares create a separate whinging thread? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaldedBorneo Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 7:17 PM, thehauntingsoul said: On 5/28/2016 at 11:59 AM, wredny said: There it is. The Pitchforks have spoken: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/21950-elseq-1-5/ I'm sure it's not just me who thinks this, but rating music on a 1-10 scale is the dumbest thing ever. It makes sense for video games, movies, tv shows, but music is far less constrained than those media. Apart from the mastering and sound quality, there's almost no objective qualities of music. In the end all art is subjective, even cinema and video games. Yes, you can try to be as objective as possible, but it's still art in the end. I don't think a 1-10 scale is supposed to be some objective rating. People who claim it is are misrepresenting it. The scale is just a subjective measure of the reviewer's own enjoyment of that piece of art. I love rating things on a 1-10 scale. I do it for every movie I watch and album I listen to, and I like keeping track of my ratings and ordering them. I would never be stupid enough to claim it is objective in any way. It is based on my own values and criteria, and in the end the number only represents my own enjoyment. Things I give a 10 I love most and know I could listen to forever. Things I give a 7 are pretty good, but missing something to be great, so I might listen to it occasionally. It is just for my own purposes because I like organizing it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KovalainenFanBoy Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 7:17 PM, thehauntingsoul said: I'm sure it's not just me who thinks this, but rating music on a 1-10 scale is the dumbest thing ever. On 5/28/2016 at 7:17 PM, thehauntingsoul said: It makes sense for video games, movies, tv shows, but music is far less constrained than those media. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide KovalainenFanBoy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 8:11 PM, VIII said: On 5/28/2016 at 7:35 PM, sweepstakes said: On 5/28/2016 at 7:01 PM, VIII said: i think $33 for digital was a bit much... i'd rather have a 2xLP for that price, or another box set like exai warp is really taking advantage of the autechre "brand" and they can get away with it too Yawn. Can someone who cares create a separate whinging thread? its my opinion and its pretty valid, deal with it I never said your whinging wasn't valid, but if you read this thread you'd see that it's expressed a dozen or so times and is therefore redundant, hence my suggestion for a separate thread. This is like saying a season of a TV show is too long and too expensive and you'd rather pay that money for a movie instead. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweepstakes Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Also that pitchfork review just passive-aggressively expresses that no one on their staff gives a shit about Autechre (the flaccid descriptions and comparions) or is interested in having any kind of dialog about them (the lukewarm rating). They've only ever been interested in "relevance", and I'm not sure what that even means in 2016. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 dunno, from a not-fan perspective it may even be a fair review, dunno... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 9:44 PM, sweepstakes said: Also that pitchfork review just passive-aggressively expresses that no one on their staff gives a shit about Autechre (the flaccid descriptions and comparions) or is interested in having any kind of dialog about them (the lukewarm rating). They've only ever been interested in "relevance", and I'm not sure what that even means in 2016. well said.. pitchfork is horseshit anyways. always has been Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivy Zemura yvI oo ii oo Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 (edited) This is the most visual music I've ever listened to Often when I'm listening to abstract music like this I try to map the sounds between real world objects that could theoretically create them (as I'm sure we all do). This results in factory landscapes if there is metallic percussion and reverb, undulating objects if there's rising and falling cutoff or stereo panning or something. Sometimes the mapping is hard and doesn't make a lot of sense so you've got to be creative But with elseq the mapping is effortless. Mental landscapes are created so easily. The clarity and beauty of imaginary visuals that I've only ever had from other music by dropping acid or smoking weed, is nearly present with elseq without any drugs at all. It's just amazing Edited May 28, 2016 by Zeffolia Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/90690-elseq-1-5/page/54/#findComment-2450166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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