AE_2022－

You're absolutely right .... it's mushroom that's being the naughty sausage. Thought the top line of the quote was him and the rest of the message was yours. oops, sorry !

  On 12/2/2024 at 12:44 PM, mcbpete said:

Flipping heck, it sounds like you're basically doing this to the live sets, just leave the poor things as they are:

 

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i know what it sounds like but a lot of them sound like legit great standalone tracks. perfect for when i dont want to scrub through an hour+ of sound file to get to a part i want to hear, or if i dont want to listen to an hour+ of nonstop sound for which it is awkward to pause in the middle of. its just big long substantial chunks snipped out, im not really doin anything to em...

  On 12/1/2024 at 7:56 AM, Mattthegoone said:

It would be a Trump or Boris gif, not sure if it's the same in Manc

i'm afraid you've got it all wrong. no. just no.

please keep those men out of the autechre universe!

mf dropped the full mcbpeter lmao

That's when I know I'm really in the shit .... works in the real world too

K so I listened to Rennes again last night, and now I also think that part where it breaks down was likely not intentional/computer crash. Total chad move to put out the set as is; if they omitted this set then people who attended/heard bootlegs would say "oh yeah that's the one that broke down in the middle", but this way they're totally standing by it and we'll never know for sure.
 

EDIT or we can ask Sean in the next AMA and he'll say "oh yeah that was Rob"

  On 12/2/2024 at 9:03 PM, toaoaoad said:

K so I listened to Rennes again last night, and now I also think that part where it breaks down was likely not intentional/computer crash. Total chad move to put out the set as is; if they omitted this set then people who attended/heard bootlegs would say "oh yeah that's the one that broke down in the middle", but this way they're totally standing by it and we'll never know for sure.
 

EDIT or we can ask Sean in the next AMA and he'll say "oh yeah that was Rob"

I know it's immature but I still lol when the final fart before the silence pops out with question-mark like inflection

^ yes that is an absolute topkek lol in 12 hours of pure psychedelic madness

AE_2022－ | Autechre

  On 12/2/2024 at 9:03 PM, toaoaoad said:

K so I listened to Rennes again last night, and now I also think that part where it breaks down was likely not intentional/computer crash. Total chad move to put out the set as is; if they omitted this set then people who attended/heard bootlegs would say "oh yeah that's the one that broke down in the middle", but this way they're totally standing by it and we'll never know for sure.
 

EDIT or we can ask Sean in the next AMA and he'll say "oh yeah that was Rob"

I like that bit! Even though agree it probably wasn't intentional at the time.

Assuming they were the same...

"that crash bit actually sounds kinda cool Bob"..

"Yeah Seany let's leave it in!"

Just curious if anyone has found any cool longform writing on this release? I like when good writers try to tackle their material. 

  On 12/5/2024 at 9:36 PM, gnarlybog said:

Just curious if anyone has found any cool longform writing on this release? I like when good writers try to tackle their material. 

https://disquiet.com/2024/11/05/autechre-live-listening-diary-2023-24/

this is exactly what it says, a listening diary, not so much a formal piece of high minded writing & assessment/criticism.

curious what others are about too if anyone’s seen something interesting? some stuff to tide us over until the @Alcofribas review

  On 12/5/2024 at 10:11 PM, auxien said:

https://disquiet.com/2024/11/05/autechre-live-listening-diary-2023-24/

this is exactly what it says, a listening diary, not so much a formal piece of high minded writing & assessment/criticism.

curious what others are about too if anyone’s seen something interesting? some stuff to tide us over until the @Alcofribas review

I’m working on a rig for the next also reviews

AO_2022 —

a photo of sean and rob playing the  last 15 mins of the lyon set !

Really loving Venice. Something about starting with the end of the A set hits the spot for me lately. 

  On 12/6/2024 at 12:39 AM, neurone said:

a photo of sean and rob playing the  last 15 mins of the lyon set !

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Just finished listening to the Lyon set. We long-time Ae fans have always known them for pushing the envelope with their sound, but holy shit was I not prepared for this one. Especially around the 1 hr 2 min mark...just pure ascension

  On 12/10/2024 at 1:22 AM, monoppus said:

Really loving Venice. Something about starting with the end of the A set hits the spot for me lately. 

Big fan of this set too. (And must be the classic autechre effect sending me back into the A sets more than ever rn.) I love the stripped-down way Venice opens, and I particularly love that they revisit the early parts of London B that don't appear anywhere else.

One thing I notice is that the set feels a bit strange in terms of momentum. This is because, in the 2022-A sets, the first half/two thirds are full-blown intensity, and the last section (where Venice begins), and particularly after the metal clanging bit, is this beautiful reprieve. So my association with this material is the comedown, the calm after the storm. Here, it's the whole first part of the set. So it feels a bit odd to have a long calm section at the beginning of an autechre set, since most of their sets pick up intensity pretty quickly. (Onesix was another kind of exception to this which is why I found it kinda energetically stagnant and hard to get into). Just an observation though - Venice rules.

  On 12/11/2024 at 3:56 AM, toaoaoad said:

Big fan of this set too. (And must be the classic autechre effect sending me back into the A sets more than ever rn.) I love the stripped-down way Venice opens, and I particularly love that they revisit the early parts of London B that don't appear anywhere else.

One thing I notice is that the set feels a bit strange in terms of momentum. This is because, in the 2022-A sets, the first half/two thirds are full-blown intensity, and the last section (where Venice begins), and particularly after the metal clanging bit, is this beautiful reprieve. So my association with this material is the comedown, the calm after the storm. Here, it's the whole first part of the set. So it feels a bit odd to have a long calm section at the beginning of an autechre set, since most of their sets pick up intensity pretty quickly. (Onesix was another kind of exception to this which is why I found it kinda energetically stagnant and hard to get into). Just an observation though - Venice rules.

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well said. Venice momentum is not as flowing. The A set is the only type that has extremely clear dramatic structure perhaps? Which feels funny to say since the bulk of the A material might be the most impenetrable  shit they’ve ever put out.  Maybe I’m just seeing the structural logic of the A set since I’ve had the most experience with it as it’s been out the longest. The other types lean more toward “tracks mixed and morphed together” maybe? Man, I have such trouble putting together thoughts on the A set material ha

I just love the opening on the long calm stuff. I’ve got a lifetime ahead of me but Venice is settling in to be my choice of the lot at least right now

the A set is really not my bag tbh. same with the 2016 sets (aside from one or two bits), and NTS 4. i like ambient autechre if it's more explicitly melodic but the minimal beats+airy sounds+filter knob twiddling thing doesn't jive with me at all if it's the predominant sound and not just a <10 minute thing at the end of an LP

A set is most assuredly a strange bag 

I fucking love NTS 4 but for some reason could never get fully into the onesix sets which is weird as they are v similar...keep going back to onesix though thinking the autechre effect will kick in one day!

Love the A sets though....but prob not as much as B, C & D tbh, at least right now.

I have been making a concerted effort to crack the 2022 A sets recently. I didn’t click with them on release and didn’t have that urge to play them much. After 7 or 8 listens I feel like I’m starting to appreciate them but still find vast sections impenetrable and these latest comments chime with me. Sounds like the B, C, D sets might be easier (not got to them yet).
 

I think it always takes me much longer than a lot of you watmmers, I don’t have the same acute musical intelligence. I’m only just starting to fully appreciate all of elseq, so maybe I need another 8 years. 

The reason ae is so rewarding of repeated listening over time is because there's a process of familiarizing with the macro structure and then gradually revealing more and more micro components. Hence the "kidding-not-kidding" jokes about "still discovering Exai" etc.  Early listens of new material usually feel overwhelming for this reason: getting smacked with the macro and micro all at once, knowing there's so much in there, the brain going "how am I ever possibly going to process all this?"

So first we get accustomed to the macro. For example, A set impressions: Lots of stuff going on. Kind of a "dark/scary" vibe, almost violent at times (I always think of the rite of spring with this one, especially in the second quarter). General sense of the timbres being used and where/when they appear. General sense of the "arc" in terms of energy, busy-ness of elements, harmonic/melodic material and how one section leads to the next (or whether this is even clear, as many have said it isn't in the A set). And feeling that relief after the fast kick becomes a dotted eighth note and leads into a slower rhythm, things quiet down (aside from metal clanging part, which is still pretty chill relative to the first half of the set), and then the rest of the set is fairly calm and soothing while still being trippy and hyper-detailed. (Then in some cases it also leads to the first part of London B).

Now that we're starting to have a pretty good sense of familiarity of these elements of the A set, it's time to dig in further. I've walked through these dark woods before and they're not so scary anymore, I remember this path etc. And I like these dark woods, they're actually pretty cool, and I know there are treasures to be found in here so I'm going to keep looking.

Naturally it's going to take more time with the newer sets. So far I get the impression they follow a clear arc with a healthy energy balance. Intense sections followed by less intense sections, tempo changes that are often gradual (I find this especially interesting), and as others have mentioned pretty clear distinctions between sections ("tracks" of the "album" lol). The C/D sets are immediately likeable because the macro structure isn't overwhelming. Still, when I listen, I'm aware that there is more going on than I'll be able to process in a short time and that years from now I am still going to be noticing bits and layers that hadn't jumped out at me before.

All of this has probably been said by many people in many ways but here it is again lol

  On 12/11/2024 at 7:33 PM, kirm said:

for some reason could never get fully into the onesix sets which is weird as they are v similar...keep going back to onesix though thinking the autechre effect will kick in one day!

I found onesix by far the hardest of their live eras for me to get into, and I think it has a lot to do with this "arc/balance of energy" concept. Every time I'd try to listen to onesix I would feel impatient, waiting for it to "get going", pick up steam. It never really does - even the cool fast section in the middle kinda just dies and goes back into this morass of slow sounds. Same with the big chords near the end... everything just kinda dies again after that. So I knew I couldn't go into onesix expecting a traditional autechre liveset, with crazy fast rhythms and lots of intense stuff going on. They were intentionally trying something different. Edging their audience, imo with no reward (I still think the big chords section is kinda lame tbh). I didn't personally like onesix, and I still think that from a compositional perspective it's pretty weak/poorly structured. But autechre more than any other artist pushes me to question my personal taste and criticisms. Sure enough I did start to enjoy onesix, not expecting it to be something it wasn't, knowing the arc/sections/elements and starting to "dig in" to them, and then discovering a wealth of treasure. I don't listen to those sets very often and it took me a few years to even want to try, but there you go.