RIP to WATMM Discussion thread

  On 1/29/2025 at 4:26 PM, Ivan Ooze said:

Maybe a new boc album or aphex twin AMA  could save the site

Seriously, i'm gonna miss this place. Thank you for everything joyrex and all you lovely people on WATMM you are dear to me ❤

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so many memberberries

I will be kind of hyperbolic here, but reading this message with the idea of a shutdown date in the near future makes me feel like a close friend just announced he has cancer.

Like a lot of other members said, this place is something truly special. It seems for many of us to be a tragic loss of early Internet feel to shitty social medias and whatnot. In the wake of the Zuck/Bezos/Musk shitshow the past few weeks, this is hitting even harder.

This place taught me almost all I know about music, taught me to speak english, even taught me to express my opinion on things I love.

I would be very happy with a 2.0 WATMM forum. Not a discord, not a subreddit, but a forum. I really like the WATDD name, really like @aencre idea of a community-driven administration/accounting. Really like all of you. Respect to Joyrex for his work.

All things must pass I guess. But everyday life just got a bit shittier.

The nice bobs threads were the straw that broke Joyrex's back.

This is really sad. This whole thread has got me feeling emotional. Wattem has always been my home away from home. I’ve been here for like half my life, every day, shit’s wild. So many good people here and so much music content.  

There’s gotta be someone with the time and knowledge to put together a Wattem 2.0 forum

thanks and big respect to @Joyrex. 

big respect and thanks to all watmmers.

I understand Joyrex statement. I wish you all the best for the future.

I randomly discovered  this forum by clicking on a a http link in a youtube comment below an oversteps tour bootleg.

the best click I made in life

then I have no more to say that's not have been said above.  great place. great people. great music.

let's move forward and keep in touch.

peace.

So there is no chance this doesn't happen?

I'll pay more for a higher membership 

Gah. Heart breaking. 

RIP WATMM, thanks Joyrex for all these years, has been my source of music for a really long time. Hope the community continues somehow 

Hello everyone, this is my first ever post on here. I've registered not so long ago but have been a lurker for 10+ years and this forum has been a big part of my everyday life with countless laughs and great music + art discoveries. It's a truly unique space/community, I sincerely hope Joyrex reconsiders his decision or a WATMM 2.0 is created otherwise.

In any case, huge huge thank you for years upon years of fun and awesomeness. 

Gutted! There isn’t a day that goes past that I don’t look and read something on this forum it’s one of my daily pleasurable habits and I’ve looked for the first time today and read the future of watmm and I feel really sad!! I don’t bother with other sites as this is my only source for music fuck knows what I’ll do. I’ll just be lost without it but understand the hassle it is for @Joyrex so respect for keeping the lights on for so long! 

The more I think about it I realize that I learned just about everything I know about autechre (besides the music itself) from reading this forum over the years. There is SO much good useful information gathered here in one place, from a plethora of sources, for anyone who wants to search for it. I think it really deserves to stay alive somewhere. This is a huge information resource.

ok since this site is shutting down, i can finally reveal my secret…

i am one of the aphex twins

I’m still all up in my feelings about this and probably not thinking straight. But I’m thinking that this site could be a viable alternative for WATMM 2.0. 

I'm all for Joyrex retiring, it's definitely deserved and I am forever grateful for the effort anyone put into this place to keep it going. This is the only place that I come to on the web and waste time that I don't feel annoyed when I realize I've just killed a few hours. Place is great, always cool people, new artists, music, shows, thoughts, discussions, ideas. Fuck. Wish I had thought of it ending as a possibility. I would've tried to infiltrate Joyrex's life and learn from the master how this place is run so I could be the next successor. I blew it guys. What will it take Joyex?? I can give you my credit card number. or my first born child, anything plz

Honestly tho, I would be down to help in any way I can to keep it going. Seems kinda silly to let it die if people are willing to take the reins. We could even rename it and wipe it for a fresh slate if there's worry for it becoming a cesspool that's tied to Joyrex. At least gives us a way to keep the community together, seems like a dying thing these days. 

Damn, just such a bummer. Gonna miss it, that's for sure.  2025 sucks. fuck and the dank memes thread too noooooooooooo 

in all seriousness, i’m willing to take a shot a read-only archiving this site as much as possible and willing to consider helping with a 2.0 forum though i could see it just failing. 

ill can definitely understand not wanting to hand over the forum data because it could be a huge security issue. it would by nature have to include at least password hashes, direct messages etc and that isn’t something you should just hand out. but doing a static archive and making a new forum somewhere else could be an option for sure. i prefer forums over discord as well and yeah i like something more secluded than reddit

I can’t say I understand the decision to let the most active community in this particular music scene die rather than hand the keys to a trusted veteran member, but I get that these forums eventually tend to meet these sad conclusions.

I know Reddit isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but as the primary mod of /r/IDM, I invite you all to come take part! I will really miss this place.

I will never use reddit…. NEVER!

David Lynch dies and than Joyrex stops ????? was joyrex david lynch?

First David Lynch dies and now this???

I was 15 when I first joined here, back in... 2002? (as Nirqbomb originally) It's hard to express how much it meant to me finding a community online that shared these tastes when none of my IRL friends did. I learned so much and had such a great time posting in high school and college. Since then I've been less consistently active but it's always remained incredibly special to me, even when I'm mostly just lurking.

I respect the decision, but yeah it would be pretty tragic if it all just disappeared - an archive is a must at the very least. AAA alone is such a treasure trove (and I believe has already been archived in a spreadsheet somewhere?) but there are so many other massive, endlessly valuable threads. I'd be down to pitch in to help find it a new home or keep it afloat in forum form.

It's such a shame that the message board model has disappeared from the modern internet. I use reddit and discord a bit and would join anything that gets set up for ex-WATMMers, but I hate how fleeting the discussions feel in these modern scroll-feed hubs. So few threads seem to last long enough to develop an interesting discussion, the members seem so much less connected, and you end up with people just posting the same thing over and over again because of the way it's structured. I feel like the Autechre subreddit is just somebody new posting "Best album to get into Autechre?" again and again every couple of days, since threads just drop to the bottom of the feed and disappear from further activity instead of getting real sustained engagement the way they do here.

Whatever happens, I'm truly greatful to all of you for the joy this place has given me. It helped me feel less alone at a really crucial time in my young life, and it's been a source of so much great information and discussion over the years since.

  On 1/30/2025 at 1:08 AM, Wunderbar said:

David Lynch dies and than Joyrex stops ????? was joyrex david lynch?

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lol you beat me to it!

Wow, nothing to say that hasn't been said already, but what an amazing time it's been. I started here back around when Quaristice was coming out, I'm 33 now. WATMM has literally been with me throughout my entire adult life.

Granted I mostly lurk these days but I still love this place and visit daily. Truly a unique corner of the Internet, seemingly untouched by the ever-growing insanity of the outside world. 

I really hope there is some way to keep WATMM alive, or at the least archived. If not I totally understand. Massive respect to Joyrex for pilotting the ship this long. You've done so much for all of us. Cheers!

papa remains silent. the site must be taken by force.

  On 1/30/2025 at 1:21 AM, Alcofribas said:

papa remains silent. the site must be taken by force.

 

 

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YEAH! 

RIP Teh WATMMZ