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not bad, but the mixing is horribly compressed/loud to my deaf ears. it's probably going to sound like a joke, but i'd like to hear the vinyl version.

 

*and then i tell myself to dream on about the vinyl version...as if ...lol*

  On 11/24/2010 at 7:33 PM, The Overlook said:

Do people still think South Park is funny in 2010? Amazing.

 

yes. i think it is funny every year.

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Guest Backson

speaking of South Park, don't you hate how people lift their shock humour straight from that show?

 

like how 4channers think Jew humour is hilarious, when really its just them mimicking a scripted joke that they saw on South Park years and years ago.

 

the show itself is funny though.

Guest tht tne
  On 11/25/2010 at 2:15 AM, Backson said:

speaking of South Park, don't you hate how people lift their shock humour straight from that show?

 

like how 4channers think Jew humour is hilarious, when really its just them mimicking a scripted joke that they saw on South Park years and years ago.

 

the show itself is funny though.

 

jew humour has been around long before south park or 4chan

Guest disparaissant
  On 11/24/2010 at 5:37 PM, Al5x said:

For those of you who are still stuck on "Oh my goodness Kanye West is such a dickbag."

 

A. His "outrageous" actions, much like Lady Gaga's outfits, only serve to keep the general publics attention. It is very doubtful any of us know the real Kanye West from seeing him play his part on television.

 

He's a multi-million dollar man sitting very near the top of the rap game and people who get in that kind of position and stay in that position just don't make those kinds of PR mistakes at such a frequent rate. Everything you've seen or heard of him doing was very well thought out, I promise.

 

B. Stop paying attention to what celebrities do for fuck sakes.

i don't think it's all calculated, kind of the reverse. i think they keep a lid on him most of the time, but he really seems like an irl tracy jordan.

 

edit: he relates himself to michael jackson a lot, and i would agree - he started off FAIRLY normal, got huge, and got craaaaaazy.

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Guest Backson

Yeah, he does have a massive ego problem.

 

But people fail to realise that so does every single pop star ever.

 

Its very unhealthy to care that much about yourself. I feel a little ill thinking about what my life would be like if my whole world revolved around me every second.

Guest disparaissant
  On 11/25/2010 at 5:03 AM, Backson said:

Yeah, he does have a massive ego problem.

 

But people fail to realise that so does every single pop star ever.

 

Its very unhealthy to care that much about yourself. I feel a little ill thinking about what my life would be like if my whole world revolved around me every second.

i dunno about every single ever, but the vast, vast majority. i think i actually respect him a little more because he's not really hypocritical about it.

 

maybe hypocritical isn't the right word, but he's at least fairly transparent when it comes to ego.

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i was thinking while i listened to the new album tonight.

 

it's kind of weird... because we might know kanye well ... personally. he makes those ridiculous blog posts, does the outlandish stuff on TV, all that. it's hard to imagine any element of his personality that we are not aware of through his music and his actions/words.

 

i hope he never goes full on michael jackson insane, but now that i think about it.. it almost feels like he might be reaching that point in terms of spotlight dementia.

 

who knows. the whole thing is interesting. and meaningless. and i could skip on hitting the post button because ultimately i feel extremely detached from Kayne West as an artist and the music of Kayne West. but also i might as well shoot these shits into the discussion because if not for these shits then what else is there?

 

it's all shit.

 

good night and good luck

Guest disparaissant
  On 11/25/2010 at 5:08 PM, The Overlook said:

WATMM is filled with bored housewives. You fuckers care more about Kanye's star persona and what the prick ate for breakfast...

yes this is entirely accurate oh god you're right I BET IT WAS PANCAKES

  On 11/24/2010 at 5:37 PM, Al5x said:

For those of you who are still stuck on "Oh my goodness Kanye West is such a dickbag."

 

A. His "outrageous" actions, much like Lady Gaga's outfits, only serve to keep the general publics attention. It is very doubtful any of us know the real Kanye West from seeing him play his part on television.

 

He's a multi-million dollar man sitting very near the top of the rap game and people who get in that kind of position and stay in that position just don't make those kinds of PR mistakes at such a frequent rate. Everything you've seen or heard of him doing was very well thought out, I promise.

 

B. Stop paying attention to what celebrities do for fuck sakes.

 

Bullshit. How on earth do you know? This guy embarrasses himself on a weekly basis in American press. I highly doubt it's intentional. Why would anyone want to make themselves look so ridiculous. In my opinion he is just a bit of a twat.

  On 11/25/2010 at 9:34 PM, KGW said:
  On 11/24/2010 at 5:37 PM, Al5x said:

For those of you who are still stuck on "Oh my goodness Kanye West is such a dickbag."

 

A. His "outrageous" actions, much like Lady Gaga's outfits, only serve to keep the general publics attention. It is very doubtful any of us know the real Kanye West from seeing him play his part on television.

 

He's a multi-million dollar man sitting very near the top of the rap game and people who get in that kind of position and stay in that position just don't make those kinds of PR mistakes at such a frequent rate. Everything you've seen or heard of him doing was very well thought out, I promise.

 

B. Stop paying attention to what celebrities do for fuck sakes.

 

Bullshit. How on earth do you know? This guy embarrasses himself on a weekly basis in American press. I highly doubt it's intentional. Why would anyone want to make themselves look so ridiculous. In my opinion he is just a bit of a twat.

 

Looks like you missed point B which was the most important part of my post. Oh well :ok:

 

Take note that you said he embarrasses himself on a weekly basis...while this is certainly an exaggeration, if anything a it's great use of hyperbole that highlights my point.

 

By even replying my post you are speculating about his personal life, thus being perhaps somewhat interested or at least partially hooked in to the conversation of Kanye West by not liking him and wanting to give your opinion. Kanye appreciates it, as long as you're talking about him. Kanye as well as most popstars alive today are glad to be in the mouths, the message boards, the blogs and most importantly the ears and eyes of anybody whether the exposure is negative or positive. This is even more important in the rap game of today where controversy = points, and it doesn't even matter what it is anymore. Think of Lil Wayne kissing his father in public and Lil B talking about fucking Kanye West in the ass.

 

"Who's Lil B? He said he was going to do WHAT? *reads blog after blog about Based God*"

 

Also think about the Taylor Swift incident...Kanye got on stage and ranted about the MTV VIDEO MUSIC AWARDS. The most inconsequential, void of any integrity, trashy, worthless award show to ever give out awards. Kanye West doesn't give a fuck that Beyonce lost. It would be a little different at the Grammy's but things like this..well. They don't happen at the grammy's do they? Why is that? Take a look at how successful MTV is and then look at the programming. "reality" shows. Fake, poorly written boring reality that to the vast majority of slow-witted people holds more weight than shows they see as not real, because they think they're actually dealing with real people. Kanye West participated in this sort of thing at the VMA's, or at least this is what would seem to be the case, in my humble opinion.

 

And sure enough it gave him something to write about in his songs and a shitload of attention from just about everyone in America, not to mention all the talk show spots and interviews. Good job Kanye.

 

Everyone is now welcome to tell me why I'm a conspiracy-theory nutbag.

 

EDIT: and I do realize by making this post I too am participating in the Kanye conversation, but the best point I have to make is that the tabloids about these celebrities, real or not, are vapidity masquerading as substance, they are usually 100% forged or mostly exaggerated in the first place, and that art should not be judged based on the personal life or general behavior of the artist.

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discuss music.

 

why do you think this album is that good? i don't see it, i wanna see it, i don't remember the last album that got this much praise.

ZOMG! Lazerz pew pew pew!!!!11!!1!!!!1!oneone!shift+one!~!!!

for the haters, i've been thinking. the thing i love about kanye is his confidence and swagger. those two things are probably what turn others off him.

Basically, this album is something to put into the time capsule of pop culture circa 2010. That's what it's meant to be. A lot of the production is really cool, there are some good tunes, etc. I liked Devil In A New Dress.

 

I don't think Kanye is the strongest rapper out there by a long shot. Some of those rhymes were pretty bad. He doesn't seem very intelligent, it's not like there's anything insightful or surprising in his lyrics, and his image and the drama surrounding it seems like it was assembled by a committee. I actually agree with a lot of AI5x's "conspiracies" up there.

 

I can see why critics would praise it, though.

Prince is (was) one of the few pop stars I could stomach despite the huge ego. Is this as good as Prince? I doubt it, considering that prince could channel pure sex onto tape, but kanye is a repressed homosexual. I was reading the pitchfork review and they quote several verses about sex and fucking porn stars and I imagine Kanye saying them and it doesn't compute...I don't see how I could take the album seriously...

After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside.

- lost cloud

 

I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work!

 

So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces.

-organized confused project

Guest Backson
  On 11/26/2010 at 5:02 AM, lumpenprol said:

but kanye is a repressed homosexual.

i don't enjoy this theory. he seems like the only rapper not to be sexually piggish to a cartoonish extreme, and to have ambition beyond being a rich retard who spends his money on gold flat caps or whatever (granted, his "ambition" is to be a universally loved hipster, but I'd call that an improvement...) and so it immediately indicates he's a fag?

 

nothing to do with opinions on the man, but I dislike that sort of thinking.

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  On 11/26/2010 at 1:08 PM, Backson said:
  On 11/26/2010 at 5:02 AM, lumpenprol said:

but kanye is a repressed homosexual.

i don't enjoy this theory. he seems like the only rapper not to be sexually piggish to a cartoonish extreme, and to have ambition beyond being a rich retard who spends his money on gold flat caps or whatever

 

um, from the article: "Hell of a Life" attempts to bend its central credo-- "no more drugs for me, pussy and religion is all I need"-- into a noble pursuit. As a woofer-mulching synth line lurks, Kanye justifies his dreams of not sleeping with but marrying a porn star, peaking with the combative taunt, "How can you say they live they life wrong/ When you never fuck with the lights on."

 

I know it's popular to say he's gay, but what can I say, he gives off that vibe. I'm not sure why he seems so uptight, so troubled, with such a chip on his shoulder, but being a repressed homosexual offers one explanation. His hard on for fashion design doesn't help matters. Of course I have no idea if he's actually gay (in fact, I think Eminem seems more gay than Kanye). But why is it that I can look at a prince, who put on makeup and posed nude on a flower on one of his album covers, and feel for certain that he's a lusty 100% straight male (hell, this even applies to Robert Smith), and yet Kanye's rap lines about sex and his posing with a nude Amber Rose seem forced and inauthentic? Even watmm had a multi-page "is kanye gay?" thread, because, well, he sets off people's gaydar.

 

Admittedly I haven't heard any of his music apart from two or three popular songs. Maybe if I did I'd come away with a different opinion.

After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside.

- lost cloud

 

I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work!

 

So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces.

-organized confused project

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