Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy

didnt cher make autotune popular?

cher.

  On 11/30/2010 at 2:21 AM, Backson said:

i just admire his trolling abilities.

 

after every single post I promise myself I won't come back to this thread... god damn you yeezy.

bumping for the simple fact that there have been two more pages since this morning.

I think there is a difference between good and bad uses of auto-tune. Lube seems to be focusing on how the pitch of the input makes the output sound. But to me, what makes someone's auto-tuning good is the modulation of the output pitch -- that is, the way they run up or down to the main note, 'auto-tune grace notes,' if you will. You can just have a flat auto-tune where each note goes cleanly into the next, or you can embellish the transitions by sliding through notes in between the desired pitches (fuck, I'm not explaining this well ... ). I'm thinking of the words "my style" (before "in this flow") in "Pop The Glock" and "already here" in "Tik Tok" -- those lines use the 'grace note' technique. Anyway, if Kanye learned about auto-tune from T-Pain, maybe it was this aspect he learned -- not generating the right tone of voice, but rather using the pitch correction in melodically interesting ways.

And what I'm saying is that for any quasi-intelligent bipedal human it doesn't take any outside tip to figure that out. It literally takes two minutes with the software before you intuitively get there. This isn't in any way an obscure skill requiring a scholastic approach, there is absolutely nothing deep about it, and the deepest thing you can "master" about it is using midi instead of tracking pitch.

In other words: please, before anybody cares to give their two cents... we all have and use DAWs in one form of another here, load it up, put autotune on a channel insert, plug your mic in, sing for 5 minutes. Try to do all the "interesting" thing. Succeed immediately, or at least understand what exactly i meant by "different voices get different results" (regardless of singing artifices you apply or not) Realize how devoid of any mystique "autotune technique" is.

Thank you.

Yeah no shit. My friends and I have had hours of fun sounding exactly like T-Pain with no effort at all. It's called Auto-Tune for a reason!

can we close this thread and start a new one?

interesting to see who on this forum is a big Kanye fan or vehement defender

Is he honestly worth wasting so much breath over?

For the record, i like Kanye (in the sense that i have heard beats that he put his name on that i liked), i just don't respect him.

Kinda like eating at McDonald's once in a while, but who can honestly say that McDonald's any good? Especially when you're getting the weaponized shits afterwards.

That's my review.

solid 5/10

  On 11/30/2010 at 10:28 PM, Lube Saibot said:

Especially when you're getting the weaponized shits afterwards.

 

That's my review.

 

solid 5/10

i quite liked 808s and heartbreak, but this album is purely amateurish nonsense, in my non-hip-hop-connoisseur opinion.

i've heard nothing but raves about it... why? it's not particularly groovy or catchy, it's not well produced compared to some amazing stuff happening out there... kanye's lyrics are... puerile at best "this one's for the douchebags... this one's for the assholes..." (and that's from the standout track on the album for me).

dunno. massively overrated shite, in my opinion... but to each their own.

after reading through the thread more, i'm actually content to let lube saibot be my proxy on this issue entirely. +1 ad infinitum.

This thread is trending on /r/hiphopheads for some reason

  On 11/10/2010 at 1:31 PM, jules said:

i truely hate kanye. he is a piece of s.

what's the veredict Jules, do you praise Yeezus or not

fuck kanye hope he dies

LOL

  On 3/6/2018 at 11:58 PM, span said:

This thread is trending on /r/hiphopheads for some reason

 

 

  On 11/10/2010 at 1:31 PM, jules said:

i truely hate kanye. he is a piece of s.

 

what's the veredict Jules, do you praise Yeezus or not

lol. not even close.

what the hell is that?

lol/wtf

also hai hip hop hez

kanyeassclown.biz

Also niice sammich Tyler

Ruined by the Kardashians I tell you

hello brothers at the kanye forum

all these heretics here still mad cause our overlord Ye snatched the mike out of taylor swift's hands that one time, pls forgive their ignorance

greetings and love from your pal ooze

just saw it's from /r/hiphopheads and not the kanye forum

booo, bunch of hiphop nuns

The McDonald's simile is apt. I wonder whether he and Donald's bromance was kindled over Big Macs.

Just got around to listening 2 this, I enjoy it. it's my album recommendation of the week!