A pair of explosions rocks the finish line at the Boston Marathon, injuring at least a half-dozen people.

I just want the US to become weary of violence and avoid actions that require more death.

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:23 AM, usagi said:

glad to hear that watmm's loved friends/relos are mostly turning out ok.

 

I'm steadfastly avoiding any pictures or video coming from this story.

me too, this sick fuckin country!

I guess though, you guys dont have the history of terrorism so, you could be forgiving to these guys for being a little ...dumb? (also we can keep BBC in check more due to it supposedly representing/politically neutral for the public, I didnt realise how lucky we were until I saw FOX etc)

I dont know, in Britain we have had many attacks as you are aware so our reporting is usually different- having said that when I did go to US I did see that ALL the news is pretty mental.. I guess you guys love the drama!

anybody else hear the audio from the raw footage of the bombing? Really creepy juxtaposition of the loud echoed PA system playing what sounded like Ac/DC or other shitty 80s rock right when the bomb went off, it continued playing for a little bit as people were laying down on the ground from the blast

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:31 AM, rixxx said:

 

I dont know, in Britain we have had many attacks as you are aware so our reporting is usually different- having said that when I did go to US I did see that ALL the news is pretty mental.. I guess you guys love the drama!

to be fair, the BBC and UK news media made a total circus about post 9/11 (non IRA terrorism) stuff. Especially with the 7/7 bombings, the wood green ricin plot and the 'liquid terror plot' (2 of which did not actually take place). Maybe not as bad as fox news on the surface, but from the coverage I've seen it was pretty sensationalist and fear mongering

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:18 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

I have absolutely no doubt that Alex Jones is controlled opposition. Whether he's a government plant or not I really don't know, I just know that he drowns out legitimate critical/skeptical of government theories. The Sandy Hook conspiracies were undoubtedly mostly being spread by his loud megaphone.

I can't believe he can still talk. He was/has been? on Austin public access tv for years, always yelling. Ripping off Bill Hicks' gestures and inflections.

I have seen him twice out in public, one time he was eating pancakes at a local diner with two super nerdy looking dudes.

The other time he was leaving a screening of Avatar at the theatre that I worked for. His big fat mouth was closed for once. His review of the film is hilarious. http://www.infowars.com/movie-review-avatar-and-paganism/

I apologize in advance for linking anything to his site. This is simply to laugh at him and what kind of nonsense we are about to be hearing from him, if you accidentally are listening to him.

  On 4/16/2013 at 12:06 AM, vincentvc said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 10:53 PM, Hoodie said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 10:51 PM, vincentvc said:

 

  On 4/15/2013 at 10:34 PM, marf said:

im amazed this doesnt happen more often actually.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_January–June_2013

think again

most of those places are war zones.

you should be red of shame to use that as an excuse, there's a lot of innocents who die there as well

i don't think you can compare the incidence of bombings in areas where there is a war going on with bombings in peaceful areas, which is what the original comment was referring to, as i interpreted it. i don't get what you're trying to shame me for, i never implied those deaths are less meaningful. i was talking about expectations for the incidence of terrorist attacks or whatever we're calling them.

<p>yeah it's a total illogical reach to lump all that stuff into events related to 9/11 or the type of terrorism Marf was most likely referring to.  That wikipedia article is (hard to say this nicely) garbagio. Suicide bombings by themselves aren't inherently 'terrorism' by the classical definition of the word. People with less technological resources in the middle of wars or warzones use guerilla tactics to fight or harm other people which include among other things suicide bombings, improvised explosive devices placed on roads, etc.  These do not equate to terrorism regardless of how it's been warped and conflated by the media since 9/11<br />

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  On 4/16/2013 at 1:33 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

anybody else hear the audio from the raw footage of the bombing? Really creepy juxtaposition of the loud echoed PA system playing what sounded like Ac/DC or other shitty 80s rock right when the bomb went off, it continued playing for a little bit as people were laying down on the ground from the blast

 

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:31 AM, rixxx said:

 

I dont know, in Britain we have had many attacks as you are aware so our reporting is usually different- having said that when I did go to US I did see that ALL the news is pretty mental.. I guess you guys love the drama!

to be fair, the BBC and UK news media made a total circus about post 9/11 (non IRA terrorism). Especially with the 7/7 bombings, the wood green ricin plot and the 'liquid terror plot'. Maybe not as bad as fox news on the surface, but from the coverage I've seen it was pretty sensationalist and fear mongering

yeah.. It all went down hill after Princess Di's death getting the public's reactions (I really dont give a shit what an inbred chav off the street thinks) I think 9/11 was just such a big thing to the US that we were supposed to react the same way (which of course we did in terms of shock etc) but a lot of that reporting was to psych us up for war I think (ugh what a horrible thought..)

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:31 AM, rixxx said:

I guess though, you guys dont have the history of terrorism so, you could be forgiving to these guys for being a little ...dumb? (also we can keep BBC in check more due to it supposedly representing/politically neutral for the public, I didnt realise how lucky we were until I saw FOX etc)

 

 

I dont know, in Britain we have had many attacks as you are aware so our reporting is usually different- having said that when I did go to US I did see that ALL the news is pretty mental.. I guess you guys love the drama!

Our news is horrible. The right wing stuff is scary. The left wing stuff is misguided.The people in the middle, which there barely are any, don't get any of the spotlight. The government is obviously influencing what is to be covered by the big boys. Controlling information is the way that you control a society as big as ours. Every piece of misinformation, propaganda, helps to keep us confused and incapable of being rational, realistic, and humane.

This is so disgusting.

I am utterly perplexed as to why someone good do something like this.

I have so many good memories of the Boston Marathon, and I'm a little overwhelmed by this news.

Also the IRA always called ahead- those terrorist had bloody good (ironically British?!) manners.

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:38 AM, rixxx said:

 

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:33 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

anybody else hear the audio from the raw footage of the bombing? Really creepy juxtaposition of the loud echoed PA system playing what sounded like Ac/DC or other shitty 80s rock right when the bomb went off, it continued playing for a little bit as people were laying down on the ground from the blast

 

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:31 AM, rixxx said:

 

I dont know, in Britain we have had many attacks as you are aware so our reporting is usually different- having said that when I did go to US I did see that ALL the news is pretty mental.. I guess you guys love the drama!

to be fair, the BBC and UK news media made a total circus about post 9/11 (non IRA terrorism). Especially with the 7/7 bombings, the wood green ricin plot and the 'liquid terror plot'. Maybe not as bad as fox news on the surface, but from the coverage I've seen it was pretty sensationalist and fear mongering

yeah.. It all went down hill after Princess Di's death getting the public's reactions (I really dont give a shit what an inbred chav off the street thinks) I think 9/11 was just such a big thing to the US that we were supposed to react the same way (which of course we did in terms of shock etc) but a lot of that reporting was to psych us up for war I think (ugh what a horrible thought..)

 

well you are absolutely right, the wood green ricin plot was used in tandem with our Anthrax attacks over here by Colin Powell to sell the Iraq war to the UN which the UK was fully on board with.

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:31 AM, rixxx said:

I guess you guys love the drama!

I'm pretty sure you have me blocked so I don't know why I'm responding but I think the media takes the lead and feeds the public the drama and makes people think that they need to constantly be scared and on alert essentially.

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:42 AM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:31 AM, rixxx said:

I guess you guys love the drama!

 

I'm pretty sure you have me blocked so I don't know why I'm responding but I think the media takes the lead and feeds the public the drama and makes people think that they need to constantly be scared and on alert essentially.

 

lol I want the whole watmm experience I don't have anyone blocked.

yeah, maybe I guess you guys are pretty hyper ;)

our news people are so mellow though in comparison

HOLD ON: we drink tea.

that's it.

are you guys arguing about tea?

as long as you put the milk in last there'll be no trouble here.

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:23 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

guy on MSNBC used the classical definition of terrorism (to my surprise)

 

"this was either a crime or it was terrorism, and if we find out it's politically motivated it's safe to say this was an act of terrorism"

 

i think people tend to forget that mass shootings, random bombings, etc were not called 'terrorism' very often until 9/11. It wasn't until the person took credit for it and explained their political motivations was it defined as terrorism

i would agree with this in theory, but it seems like so many shootings/killings today, even if sociopathic in nature have some political motivation foisted upon them for convenience.

i personally use the term "terrorism" rather broadly, intimidation, violence to further a particular agenda. These days I have my doubts about "lone wolves" that can get away with coordinated detonations.

how coordinated was it in actuality though, they keep saying it was 2 coordinated explosions in the same location but that doesn't take much planning and one person could easily pull that off. the 3rd and 4th bomb reports are unconfirmed. The bomb squad didn't say explicitly that they detonated undetonated bombs, that they just detonated 'suspicious packages'

there isn't anything wrong with using the word terrorism broadly, but i'm pretty sure that the word especially when used by the mainstream media carries a different connotation than how you're using it.

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:45 AM, rixxx said:

 

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:42 AM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:31 AM, rixxx said:

I guess you guys love the drama!

 

I'm pretty sure you have me blocked so I don't know why I'm responding but I think the media takes the lead and feeds the public the drama and makes people think that they need to constantly be scared and on alert essentially.

 

lol I want the whole watmm experience I don't have anyone blocked.

 

yeah, maybe I guess you guys are pretty hyper ;)

 

our news people are so mellow though in comparison

 

HOLD ON: we drink tea.

 

that's it.

 

American news is kinda setup to have the excitement of (American) football. It's got a similiar sort of vibe and energy to it, almost like it's trying to get people pumped up about it.

I think ideally news should be very dry and sedate, where you're just given raw data.

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:53 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

how coordinated was it in actuality though, they keep saying it was 2 coordinated explosions in the same location but that doesn't take much planning and one person could easily pull that off. the 3rd and 4th bomb reports are unconfirmed. The bomb squad didn't say explicitly that they detonated undetonated bombs, that they just detonated 'suspicious packages'

 

there isn't anything wrong with using the word terrorism broadly, but i'm pretty sure that the word especially when used by the mainstream media carries a different connotation than how you're using it.

i see what you mean, but ultimately, they were either coordinated or not coordinated. I find it incredibly hard to believe that these were pulled off by a single actor, is all.

and i thought the library one was confirmed? I remember seeing some public announcement from a law official stating that the 4th one was safely disarmed/detonated a few blocks away from the library?

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:55 AM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:45 AM, rixxx said:

 

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:42 AM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:31 AM, rixxx said:

I guess you guys love the drama!

 

I'm pretty sure you have me blocked so I don't know why I'm responding but I think the media takes the lead and feeds the public the drama and makes people think that they need to constantly be scared and on alert essentially.

 

lol I want the whole watmm experience I don't have anyone blocked.

 

yeah, maybe I guess you guys are pretty hyper ;)

 

our news people are so mellow though in comparison

 

HOLD ON: we drink tea.

 

that's it.

 

 

American news is kinda setup to have the excitement of (American) football. It's got a similiar sort of vibe and energy to it, almost like it's trying to get people pumped up about it.

 

I think ideally news should be very dry and sedate, where you're just given raw data.

 

Agreed. I just want someone to rattle off everything without an agenda. I feel like someone could make entire news network based off this idea and it would be successful.

Its nigh on impossible to keep a cool head when something directly effects the presenters. Its also nigh on impossible to avoid any bias when stating the news. but I certainly sympathize with your point. A lot of the newsrooms are probably behind the scenes seeing dollar signs, rather sickening.

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:56 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

 

  On 4/16/2013 at 1:53 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

how coordinated was it in actuality though, they keep saying it was 2 coordinated explosions in the same location but that doesn't take much planning and one person could easily pull that off. the 3rd and 4th bomb reports are unconfirmed. The bomb squad didn't say explicitly that they detonated undetonated bombs, that they just detonated 'suspicious packages'

 

there isn't anything wrong with using the word terrorism broadly, but i'm pretty sure that the word especially when used by the mainstream media carries a different connotation than how you're using it.

 

 

i see what you mean, but ultimately, they were either coordinated or not coordinated. I find it incredibly hard to believe that these were pulled off by a single actor, is all.

 

and i thought the library one was confirmed? I remember seeing some public announcement from a law official stating that the 4th one was safely disarmed/detonated a few blocks away from the library?

 

Well, they stated the bombs were on timers which implies a certain level of primitiveness. If you look at the distance and the fact that they were on timers you could assume that maybe someone was walking, and then dropped the bomb, and then walked further and dropped another bomb. The other two might have been another individual, or possibly a longer timer that was poorly designed. Generally speaking wouldn't you think that more people equals a higher amount of sophistication? I would think that it would have been more elaborate and more damage if it was a few or several people involved.

i doubt this is a terrorist thing

more likely some white male sociopath in his 20s

  On 4/16/2013 at 2:01 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

Its nigh on impossible to keep a cool head when something directly effects the presenters. Its also nigh on impossible to avoid any bias when stating the news. but I certainly sympathize with your point. A lot of the newsrooms are probably behind the scenes seeing dollar signs, rather sickening.

Not to mention being influenced by our government about covering certain subjects. Look at the things that get little coverage and then the other small things that get 24/7 coverage. They are at least a little bit of muscle being flexed here.