Quaristice

this release is such a freaking beast

  On 9/30/2011 at 5:59 AM, modey said:

I'm talking in terms of actual musical structure and programming, rather than in a metaphorical sense btw.

in terms of musical structure and programming i also disagree, but it's interesting how autechre albums create such vastly different opinions. Oversteps and Moves of Ten will always sound like the 'jammy' faster made counterpart to the more structure and tightly edited down Quaristice

  On 9/28/2011 at 12:13 AM, Awepittance said:

i think over time people are going to look back and realize that out of their post Draft work Quaristice is the most interesting

This would be true if Untilted, Iera and Pro Radii didn't exist.

I listened to Quaristice first thing in the morning today, for the first time in ages, in the dark, in bed not fully awake. I still find The Plc and IO to be some of the most creative and invigorating music they've made, Simm is magic, fwzE and 90101-5l-l are throwaway and ruin the flow of the album, Fol3 is a great headfuck I wish they'd do more of.

maybe interesting in the sense that it's their most diverse output...but Iera and Pro Radii are endlessly fascinating to me, dense, alien and enigmatic. And no matter how many times I listen to The Trees, it still sounds really absurd.

I'd love to hear the trees on a proper soundsystem, it'd sound amazing.

i can't help but assume that quaristice is not edited in the same meticulous way as overstabs/mott is.

i think the hard, time consuming part of quaristice was finding the proper pallet of sounds. it really sounds like most of the quaristice tracks are glimpses at an incredible quantity of material. they just had to go through and find the best bits of that stuff and arrange it accordingly. i'm comfortable with the amount of quaristice releases, any more might just be the b-grade versions of tracks we know and love. i mean they released 3 full length quari-releases, that's so much more than we get usually that i'm grateful already.

the new stuff seems much more deliberate and meticulous on the compositional level. ie, i don't think there were a million different takes of known1, ilanders, treale, yuop, and of course there ARE a million perlences, IOs, 901s, and plcccplclcs

  On 10/2/2011 at 11:18 PM, theSun said:

This would be true if Untilted, Iera and Pro Radii didn't exist.

Pro Radii is a phenomenal track, Sublimit is probably my 2nd favorite. I just think as an album Untilted feels like far too much of a skeletal more punchy/big Draft. Quaristice feels like entirely it's own beast, not owing anything to previous AE works necessarily. There are echos of Amber and others but it feels like one of the biggest 180s they've taken in their entire career.

hey i didn't say that shit.

quaristice makes a lot of sense in the context of the untitled/quaristice live sets. i don't see it as a 180, just a typical/surprising autechre 90 degree shift

  On 9/30/2011 at 5:37 AM, vamos scorcho said:

Quaristice is much more tight in my opinion than Oversteps. Oversteps is more expansive sounding, cold and open, spaced. Quaristice is kind of claustrophobic and hot.

So what you're saying, vamos, is that Quaristice is Autechre at their most anal?

  On 10/4/2011 at 2:29 AM, usagi said:

I dunno about yrs but mine is a cool wide expanse

 

  On 10/2/2011 at 3:14 PM, Suffocate Peon said:

fwzE and 90101-5l-l are throwaway and ruin the flow of the album

 

are you kidding, 90101 is my favourite track on there. I still don't "get" Quaristice though so I'm probably not in a position to see the whole picture. that's kind of my problem with it though, I don't think there is a whole picture.

fwzE is really the only track I don't get much from on there, I quite like 90101-5l-l but only as a stand-alone fun track. Most of the tracks from fwzE onwards for me are better listened to stand-alone. When I'm trying to make playlists of Quaristice I can never fit any of those tracks together in any sequence.

I think the album flows up to fol3. I like the sequence of Simmm, Parallel Suns, Steels, Tankakern, Rale, Fol3. They really complement each other. Fol3 is such an amazing mental car crash of sound that fwzE is a just too straightforward and easy-going skit in comparison, it's a let down (or a come down), and then the next two tracks are similar. Fol3 fucks with your expectations to such a degree that it's like the album at that point with 8 tracks left had the potential to go anywhere it wanted to, and is a bit underwhelming from that point onwards. I get back into it at Notwo...I guess I just prefer longer, more expansive tracks from Autechre. Somehow 73 minutes isn't too long for an album of 9 tracks, but 20 tracks at 73 minutes is. There's so much beauty in Theswere but never when listening to the album do I really feel that. I always get sleepy around that point, or I've had enough and turn it off.

Of course some people love fwzE and can't stand Fol3...

  On 10/5/2011 at 1:38 AM, Suffocate Peon said:

  On 10/4/2011 at 2:29 AM, usagi said:

I dunno about yrs but mine is a cool wide expanse

 

  On 10/2/2011 at 3:14 PM, Suffocate Peon said:

fwzE and 90101-5l-l are throwaway and ruin the flow of the album

 

are you kidding, 90101 is my favourite track on there. I still don't "get" Quaristice though so I'm probably not in a position to see the whole picture. that's kind of my problem with it though, I don't think there is a whole picture.

 

fwzE is really the only track I don't get much from on there, I quite like 90101-5l-l but only as a stand-alone fun track. Most of the tracks from fwzE onwards for me are better listened to stand-alone. When I'm trying to make playlists of Quaristice I can never fit any of those tracks together in any sequence.

 

I think the album flows up to fol3. I like the sequence of Simmm, Parallel Suns, Steels, Tankakern, Rale, Fol3. They really complement each other. Fol3 is such an amazing mental car crash of sound that fwzE is a just too straightforward and easy-going skit in comparison, it's a let down (or a come down), and then the next two tracks are similar. Fol3 fucks with your expectations to such a degree that it's like the album at that point with 8 tracks left had the potential to go anywhere it wanted to, and is a bit underwhelming from that point onwards. I get back into it at Notwo...I guess I just prefer longer, more expansive tracks from Autechre. Somehow 73 minutes isn't too long for an album of 9 tracks, but 20 tracks at 73 minutes is. There's so much beauty in Theswere but never when listening to the album do I really feel that. I always get sleepy around that point, or I've had enough and turn it off.

 

 

Of course some people love fwzE and can't stand Fol3...

I agree with the sequences you singled out as positives, but the Theswere-WNSN-chenc9-Notwo-Outh9x sequence is pretty great, too.

Plus, chenc9 is Untilted tour goodness.

one the only complaints ( or call it greed) i have about the plethora of Quaristice stuff we got is we DID NOT get an epically long version of Simmm and Chenc9. I think these songs deserved a little the plc--->the plcCpC and Tankaken----> Tankraken treatment

you know, i really like the tankakrenenrans but they're too much of the same idea. i could just do with the long version, the other ones don't really add to it, whereas theplclcpc and a few presences are essential

The origin of chenc9 is just LCClive though (structurally, plus lead melody re-write), so I don't know if there's a real long version. That's why all the versions of chenc sound like chenc9 with some shit added from other tracks, I reckon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZP9lWlyF4g

^goddamn, I always forget how good that is

They still need to officially release the Glasgow set from '05.

The frustrating thing about chenc is everyone loves the Untilted liveset bit that follows the LCClive/chenc outro.

EVERYONE

that whole sequence flows better than anything on Quaristice. It's goddamn bliss.

  On 10/5/2011 at 11:10 PM, baph said:

It's goddamn bliss.

that it is.

when I think of quaristice I feel like it is early in the morning, it is really cold outside, there are piles and piles of untouched fresh snow and I'm super warm and cozy in my bed. all warm and fuzzy inside and out.

Quaristice is water and electricity ... fucking volatile.

i get a deep ocean, brooding and rumbling feeling from most quaristice. the meticulousness of this release isn't high compared to others, but it is still so deliberate sounding.

it's just such a fucking beast.

Not got into this album. I think for me Quaristice may be a paticular tough nut to crack. I seem to get bored with it very quickly and by the 4th track just reach for another record.

As this album is by Autechre I am also aware that it maybe a work of genuis that I haven't quite worked out yet!!

i rarely listen to quaristice all the way through. i just queue up the tracks i want from the regular release/versions/quadrange. to get into it i would just listen to a track or 2 here and there.

it can be a tiring listenn

  On 10/5/2011 at 11:10 PM, baph said:

The frustrating thing about chenc is everyone loves the Untilted liveset bit that follows the LCClive/chenc outro.

EVERYONE

 

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNjoJYy5LLY

 

 

that whole sequence flows better than anything on Quaristice. It's goddamn bliss.

Yeah that is one of my favorite bits they've ever done, shame it didn't get a proper release.

I find the bit right at the end of that video (and the start of part 6) is the best bit of the Untilted tour. One of my favourite AE moments is that beat, lovely spastic electro.

I'm listening to Quaristice right now and it still sounds top notch.