IOS Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/9/2024 at 3:46 PM, cern said: Nobody else gonna comment on this? Fake or what? No clipping on wav 24bit files according to Reaper. Open Reaper, open Media Explorer Navigate to ae live wav 24bit dir; select all files Right-click on one file, choose "Calculate peak volume and loudness (LUFS-I) for media" Wait Result They all reach a peak of either 0 or -0.1 dBFS. The Lyon set is the loudest of them all according to its LUFS integrated, yeah baby. I briefly checked the Lyon mp3 and yes, it does clip at around +0.6. As others have suggested, it's highly likely that the wav to mp3 conversion has caused this. I reckon this definitely isn't a problem with the music but instead it exposes how flawed the mp3 format is HA. On 11/9/2024 at 4:42 PM, beerwolf said: Presses play on Lyon Expand Draft78, beerwolf, Alcofribas and 1 other 3 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 (edited) 2024: Autechre Odyssey Edited November 9, 2024 by beerwolf auxien and Draft78 1 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroom Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 i havent checked every single one but the Lyon flac doesn't clip anywhere. the mp3s are probably the only files affected and even then i doubt you'd notice it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nil Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 Mp3 is a lossy format and will often clip a non-clipping source once transcoded. The 24bit files don’t clip as far as I can tell (haven’t listened yet in the studio, just headphones so far). Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Nil's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/9/2024 at 5:31 PM, Nil said: The 24bit files don’t clip as far as I can tell (haven’t listened yet in the studio, just headphones so far). i listened in the studio, dynaudio BM6a MK1. there's so much detail and clarity in the recordings it's deep. can almost hear that there's 2 people doing stuff at times.. in the more sparse moments. i've not been able to notice this before. it's sometimes clear there are 2 sources being mixed then it all becomes one thing when the tracks get more complex.. it all glues together. it's intense. fkcn "sysex demon" and "we don't need a gardener" are masters of the thing they do.. as if it needs to be said again for the nth time. Draft78 and monoppus 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auxien Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 just noticing the _B at the end of the LISBON set. did they do two shows there? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide auxien's signature Hide all signatures / b c / m a s t o d o n / b l o t / Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 I'm surprised no-one's asked why there's a few milliseconds gap at the beginning of the MP3s… Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-a-m-o Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/9/2024 at 5:57 PM, auxien said: just noticing the _B at the end of the LISBON set. did they do two shows there? yep. auxien 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/9/2024 at 5:59 PM, oscillik said: I'm surprised no-one's asked why there's a few milliseconds gap at the beginning of the MP3s… mcbpete, Alcofribas, beerwolf and 4 others 4 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cern Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 u guys pay alot of $$$ for a fucking MP3-file that is clipping LOL Is even Rob and Sean aware of this issue? lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejewk Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 MP3s show clipping in Audacity often when they are not clipping. It's just a problem with detection due to the db boost the files get from the conversion process. It's a none issue. Use your ears, clipping is obvious. X4creek, d-a-m-o and toaoaoad 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/9/2024 at 4:41 PM, th555 said: Wait how come the 888 would sound cleaner than just recording digital vinyls in the box? Just because it has really nice magic preamps that add some colour, or what? Or do they mix analog? i think that each laptop goes analog out to the 888 and is mixed then goes to the front of house PA. so, before, they were using a mackie mixer? or whatever so mixing through the mackie and recording from that to small tascam or whatever it was.. so, the 888 has high end everything so sounds better. they record on that digitally but the outputs of their computer interfaces are still analog -> mixed/recorded in 888 which also outputs to front of house analog? i think.. isnt' that what he said.. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcofribas Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/9/2024 at 7:56 PM, cern said: u guys pay alot of $$$ for a fucking MP3-file that is clipping LOL Is even Rob and Sean aware of this issue? lol "incomplete without clipping" auxien, X4creek, Neurodancer and 11 others 2 1 8 3 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/9/2024 at 7:56 PM, cern said: u guys pay alot of $$$ for a fucking MP3-file that is clipping LOL Is even Rob and Sean aware of this issue? lol i paid extra for the clipping. there was a survey about it too.. "do you want more clipping?" and i voted yes. Draft78, d-a-m-o and X4creek 1 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cern Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/9/2024 at 8:48 PM, ignatius said: i paid extra for the clipping. there was a survey about it too.. "do you want more clipping?" and i voted yes. how filthy Anyway I wanted more clarinet action Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cern Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/8/2024 at 12:48 AM, commercial said: while this is ongoing with 2022- didn't post this pic from Barbican before, for the tech spec people - Rob's Expand I wonder if they using the original USB cable for it because the cable that came with the Killamix was totally crap. I can just tap on it and it will disconnect. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaoaoad Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 "The mp3s are clipping" fuck off. I can't stand people like that and there's always one. Infected the whole thread. On 11/7/2024 at 6:24 AM, toaoaoad said: Try listening with the speaker pressed up against your taint IOS and Draft78 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaderpansen Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 Visionary! ARPA, Draft78, auxien and 8 others 11 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxus Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 wtf I hit play on Lyon and this came on cern and X4creek 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Boxus's signature Hide all signatures art Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cern Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/9/2024 at 9:26 PM, toaoaoad said: "The mp3s are clipping" fuck off. I can't stand people like that and there's always one. Infected the whole thread. The mp3s are clipping!! Draft78 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
toaoaoad Posted November 9, 2024 Report Share Posted November 9, 2024 On 11/9/2024 at 11:56 PM, cern said: The mp3s are clipping!! It's true, I had been stupidly enjoying these files very much until some knowitall audiophile smartass on watmm pointed out that I shouldn't be! Autechre sure have made a fool of me this time! Neurodancer, d-a-m-o, auxien and 4 others 1 5 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
monoppus Posted November 10, 2024 Report Share Posted November 10, 2024 great now i cant enjoy this thread jaderpansen, cern and Draft78 1 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cern Posted November 10, 2024 Report Share Posted November 10, 2024 On 11/7/2024 at 6:12 AM, mushroom said: fyi you can do View>Show Clipping in Audacity and red lines will show up if something is clipped. in case you dont already know ae's generally been pretty loud since like elseq i think also if you look at the entire hour+ zoomed out like that it looks a bit worse than it is imo On 11/7/2024 at 5:37 PM, mushroom said: no, it's ~2600 clipped samples, and that's only for the mp3s, again likely because of some default encoding setting. the lossless files don't clip at all (i believe) Autechre buys recorder for $10.000 so they can release mp3 files that are clipping Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOS Posted November 10, 2024 Report Share Posted November 10, 2024 baph, Neurodancer, misc and 13 others 5 1 8 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/104035-ae_2022%EF%BC%8D/page/34/#findComment-2994208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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