AE_2022－

I’m an hour and 10 minutes into Brussels right now (still pacing myself chronologically) and it’s so obvious that Sean and Rob are having a fucking blast. 
 

  On 11/7/2024 at 6:31 PM, YELLOW said:

Some nitty gritty from Mastodon

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is he saying that all the autechre albums were recorded "live" to stereo? 

what the fuck

  On 11/7/2024 at 7:00 PM, IAUAUA said:

Been to Rennes. I thought so then and think now that it wasn’t an artistic decision. If it was, I don’t like it.

Whether intentional or not, it has now been preserved in my custom setlist haha.  I think it adds an interesting moment to the flow, where you have more a subdued stretch of groove and funk based hip hop that starts building up with more texture and activity, plunges to a fractured stop, and then jerks back into life.  Plus the section leading up to it sounds like the kind of techno I hear in my head but fail to create.

  On 11/7/2024 at 7:00 PM, IAUAUA said:

  On 11/7/2024 at 3:13 PM, thejewk said:

In the Rennes set in the piece starting around the 27.30 mark, there's a really weird and funny extended section where everything gets stripped down to a couple of sounds and then grinds to a complete halt for a few second.  I was just picturing Rab and Steve smacking the side of the laptop to get it to kick in again.  

Been to Rennes. I thought so then and think now that it wasn’t an artistic decision. If it was, I don’t like it.

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see @toaoaoad it's not just me hunting out mistakes... . .. . .  . .    .    .       .               .   

Audacity > Select All > Analyze > Mistake Finder: no mistakes found

  On 11/7/2024 at 4:20 PM, thejewk said:

I'd get the one that looks like an ass in a hula hoop.

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to me it looks like a pig paw waiting for a manicure and i wish i could unsee dat shit because i love this particular composition.

  On 11/7/2024 at 9:26 PM, jaderpansen said:

to me it looks like a pig paw waiting for a manicure and i wish i could unsee dat shit because i love this particular composition.

Don't worry fam, just think of it as a petri dish with some organic liquid on a microscope, partly lit with some uv light or something. A bit like this:

I mean of course the liquid is from a pig trotter.. OBVS

As long as the liquid isn’t from a pig trotter fart. 

  On 11/7/2024 at 7:07 PM, Alcofribas said:

is he saying that all the autechre albums were recorded "live" to stereo? 

yeah, almost.

I'm remembering them on the AAA thread saying "I like the 2-track being more in the idea of a craft"   or something.

(2-track =  let the (whatever) device recording a stereo file while jamming (or a prepared playback, with then "on the fly" effects and mixing  , and no multitrack rework after that, just some editing)

so pretty much like "live mixing" even if in the studio

this does not mean that everything is proper "jam",   ie, draft 7.30 has every steps pretty precisely sequenced (iirc according to AAA or some interview) but at the end the mixing is captured  on the go.    but then, based on jams, shurely, since , dunno, untilted or quari or bit later)

( that's a summup of what I did understood about them doing this )

then, for current livesets, here, seans explain that they have the option of either : using the 2-track as it is, or : having at least a 4-track (two  for sean L/R output and two rob L./R output) for post- production mixing ajustment if needed , to ensure a proper release of those sets for our home listening.    and the 2-track rec being on 3 differents medias maybe for having spares just in case, dunno...

that's how I understand this mastodont post he made.

Does anyone have a good recommendation for phone media players, that can possibly handle flac files? youtube music is pretty annoying in how it splits tracks up etc. I have a google pixel/android btw. cheers!

  On 11/7/2024 at 10:46 PM, dumplings said:

Does anyone have a good recommendation for phone media players, that can possibly handle flac files? youtube music is pretty annoying in how it splits tracks up etc. I have a google pixel/android btw. cheers!

You could take a look at F-Droid https://search.f-droid.org/?q=flac

The apps on there are open-source and usually very lightweight

I use this one https://f-droid.org/packages/com.simplemobiletools.musicplayer/ but I'm not sure if it supports FLAC, doesn't say so explicitly

Foobar2000 and VLC are available on Android as well.

  On 11/7/2024 at 10:46 PM, dumplings said:

Does anyone have a good recommendation for phone media players, that can possibly handle flac files? youtube music is pretty annoying in how it splits tracks up etc. I have a google pixel/android btw. cheers!

You could try my app: 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plastaq.m&hl=en

  On 11/7/2024 at 10:39 PM, neurone said:

yeah, almost.

I'm remembering them on the AAA thread saying "I like the 2-track being more in the idea of a craft"   or something.

(2-track =  let the (whatever) device recording a stereo file while jamming (or a prepared playback, with then "on the fly" effects and mixing  , and no multitrack rework after that, just some editing)

so pretty much like "live mixing" even if in the studio

this does not mean that everything is proper "jam",   ie, draft 7.30 has every steps pretty precisely sequenced (iirc according to AAA or some interview) but at the end the mixing is captured  on the go.    but then, based on jams, shurely, since , dunno, untilted or quari or bit later)

( that's a summup of what I did understood about them doing this )

then, for current livesets, here, seans explain that they have the option of either : using the 2-track as it is, or : having at least a 4-track (two  for sean L/R output and two rob L./R output) for post- production mixing ajustment if needed , to ensure a proper release of those sets for our home listening.    and the 2-track rec being on 3 differents medias maybe for having spares just in case, dunno...

that's how I understand this mastodont post he made.

 

 

 

 

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Yeah, this is my understanding as well. But it still seems so shocking in a way that they were able to craft all that music in such a way that it could be performed “live” like that. True masters of their craft imo. 
 

i also think it’s an interesting insight into their view of live vs album at this stage in their career. 

^^ nicely synced, the bit with the fader move and small pause to adjust the eq knob fits really well

while this is ongoing with 2022- didn't post this pic from Barbican before, for the tech spec people - Rob's

  On 11/8/2024 at 12:48 AM, commercial said:

while this is ongoing with 2022- didn't post this pic from Barbican before, for the tech spec people - Rob's

 

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MORF

  On 11/7/2024 at 11:44 PM, Alcofribas said:

Yeah, this is my understanding as well. But it still seems so shocking in a way that they were able to craft all that music in such a way that it could be performed “live” like that. True masters of their craft imo. 
 

i also think it’s an interesting insight into their view of live vs album at this stage in their career. 

It's a very common thread for electronic musicians starting out in the late eighties early nineties, beginning on small setups of one drum machine, a synth or two, some pedals - most of these people learned really good live mixing and recording skills very quickly, how to get a good result to cassette and then D.A.T. in real time, keeps it fresher and every pass is a unique event, I'm not surprised they keep that going, multitrack is for bands and orchestras really, always thought the techno/acid/dance thing was it was more 'punk' in attitude and method - you produce yourself, keep control of your sound... edit it yourself, even those crazy Aphex Twin tracks with massive amounts of gear - which I don't really like compared to his early stuff - they are still recorded in a single pass in real time to 2-Track

  On 11/8/2024 at 1:08 AM, ignatius said:

MORF

Yea, we're in the land of 'everything louder than everything else' - "MORE MORF" !!

a small meyer pa system. wild

  On 11/8/2024 at 1:09 AM, commercial said:

It's a very common thread for electronic musicians starting out in the late eighties early nineties, beginning on small setups of one drum machine, a synth or two, some pedals - most of these people learned really good live mixing and recording skills very quickly, how to get a good result to cassette and then D.A.T. in real time, keeps it fresher and every pass is a unique event, I'm not surprised they keep that going, multitrack is for bands and orchestras really, always thought the techno/acid/dance thing was it was more 'punk' in attitude and method - you produce yourself, keep control of your sound... edit it yourself, even those crazy Aphex Twin tracks with massive amounts of gear - which I don't really like compared to his early stuff - they are still recorded in a single pass in real time to 2-Track

Yes, I’m familiar with electronic music lol 

but we’re talking about the autechre brothers here, expert levels of fuckery to have such music sequenced in real time like that. 

  On 11/8/2024 at 12:48 AM, commercial said:

while this is ongoing with 2022- didn't post this pic from Barbican before, for the tech spec people - Rob's

 

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AE gear list 2003: https://mikebaas.org/autechre/archive/gear_list_v1.php

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Akai Z8 sampler & ADAT card 
AKG C1000 mic 
Alesis QuadraVerb GT effects 
Alesis Monitor 1 speakers 
Alesis MMT8 sequencer (x2) 
Analogue Systems RS8500 modular synth with various modules 
Apple 7200 PowerPC 
Apple 9650 PowerPC 
Apple Airport LAN card (x2) 
Apple G4 dual 800 computer 
Apple G4 450 computer 
Apple G4 500 Powerbook (x2) 
Apple G4 800 Powerbook 
Apple Powerbook 1400c computer with Newertech G3/PB 1400 upgrade card 
Atari 1040STE computer 
Behringer Autocom 
Behringer Composer Pro 
Behringer Ultrafex 2 
Behringer Ultrapatch (x4) 
Boss RDD-10 effects unit 
Boss RSD-10 effects unit (x2) 
Calabash gourd rattle 
Casio FZ-1 sampler 
Casio RZ-1 drum machine 
Casio PT-7 workstation 
Casio SK-1 sampler (x2) 
Casio SK-5 sampler 
Clavia Nord Lead rack synth 
Clavia Nord Modular synth with eight-voice card (x2) 
dbx DDP processor 
Digidesign 882 I/O interface 
Digidesign Disk I/O PCI 
Digidesign DSP Farm PCI 
DOD phaser pedal 
Dynaudio BM15a speakers 
Dynaudio M1 speakers 
Emagic AMT8 MIDI interface 
E-mu Esynth Ultra sampler 
Ensoniq ASR-10R Sampler (x2) 
Ensoniq DP2 effects unit 
Ensoniq EPS16+ sampler 
Griffin iMate adaptor 
Grundig tape recorder 
HHB CDR850 Plus CD recorder (link is to the CDR830 Plus)
IBM 4.5Gb SCSI drives (x2) 
IBM ThinkPad computer 
Iomega Zip 100MB drive (x2) 
Iomega Zip 250MB drive 
Kenton Pro 4 CV/MIDI interface 
Korg Prophecy synth 
Korg MS10 synth 
Kurzweil K2500R synth 
LA Audio 4x4 compressor (LA Audio C400?)
Lexicon MPX1 effects unit 
Mackie 24:8 mixer with meter bridge 
Mackie CR1604-VLZ mixer 
Mbira with resonator 
Micropolis AVLT 2Gb SCSI drive 
MidiLink MIDI Data Extender
MOTU Fastlane USB MIDI interface 
Miny portable tape recorder 
MOTU micro express MIDI interface 
MOTU MIDI Express XT USB interface 
Nintendo Gameboy 
Oberheim DMX drum machine 
Opcode Studio 3 MIDI interface 
Panasonic SV3800 DAT recorder 
Peavey PC 1600X controller 
Philip Rees 5S MIDI switcher 
Philips oscilloscope 
Phonic MRT60 mixer 
PSE stereo spring reverb 
Pro Tools III PCI interface 
Realistic induction mic (I'm totally guessing on this one...)
Reyong 
RME Hammerfall
RME Hammerfall ADI-8 Pro audio interface 
RME Hammerfall Digiface digital interface 
Roland CR-8000 drum machine 
Roland Juno 106 synth 
Roland SH-2 synth 
Roland MC-202 synth 
Roland CR-78 drum machine 
Roland PMA-5 sequencer 
Roland TR-606 drum machine 
Roland R-8 drum machine 
Seagate Barracuda 4Gb SCSI drives (x3) 
Seagate Barracuda 9Gb SCSI drive 
Seck 18:8:2 mixer 
Simmons SDE drum expander 
Simmons SPM MIDI mixer 
Sony CRX 1600L CDRW 
Sony lapel mic (which one, we may never know....)
Sony MDS JE520 MiniDisc recorder 
Sony HR-MP5 effects unit 
Sony TCD-D7 Portable DAT recorder 
Sony DTC690 DAT recorder 
Symbolic Sound Capybara 320 
Tascam US-244 four-track recorder 
Tascam DA-20 MKII DAT recorder 
Tascam DAP1 Portable DAT recorder 
Tascam M2600 mixer
TC XII B/K phaser pedal 
Wacom A5 & A6 tablets 
Yamaha 4260TX CDRW 
Yamaha CBXD5 interfaces (x2) 
Yamaha CX5 M computer (x2) (changed to M model, ok?)
Yamaha DX100 synths (x2) 
Yamaha FS1R synth 
Yamaha KX-W321 tape deck 
Yamaha NS-10M speakers 
Yamaha QY20 sequencer/synth 
Yamaha RY30 drum machine 
Yamaha SU10 sample

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Autechre gear list 2024:

couple Kenton controllers, couple of Macbooks, an expensive ass recorder.

  On 11/8/2024 at 1:29 AM, Alcofribas said:

Yes, I’m familiar with electronic music lol 

but we’re talking about the autechre brothers here, expert levels of fuckery to have such music sequenced in real time like that. 

Yea, they are the best at doing this, knew that from the start, they were the best electronic live act back in the 1990's and actually did it live unlike some of the their contempraneous acts I won't name, I was at the Quirky gig that's on the YouTube with Haswell shouting at the start...

finishing up TURIN_041122 rn & i'm struck by how much of an 'album experience' it is....got a nice arc to the set overall w/ some nice mini arcs built in there, lovely epic closing piece..... thought that might be of good note for those in fear of the death of the AE album, maybe give this one a shot?