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I'm sort of sold on PS3 for all my Portal 2 needs now... but I have to plug my ears on all things Portal until December.

It looks amazon on PS3, and I'm hoping the next stage in the HL continuation is as tailored to that system.

Was playing through the final stages of HL recently and it's a fucking glitchfest on my computer; the best fucking glitchfest I've ever played, mind. So, yeah, console it is.

  On 4/21/2011 at 7:20 PM, mafted said:

you guys need to play HL2 on the PC, as it was intended. you can't play properly play a FPS with an X-Y axis, but i'm sure it's watered down enough to handle it. :facepalm:

 

I'm actually better at using a ps3 controller for FPSs than I am with keyboard and mouse. At this point, after playing a lot on console, the looking and the moving feels more natural to me. More embedded in in my system for natural reaction.

 

  On 4/21/2011 at 9:20 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

GoW III-at the part where3 i have to defend the boxes from the minotaurs...jesus that almost gave me a heart attack.

Oh fuck, when you are on the top of the labyrinth while it is being assembled? Fuck that part, yeah that sucks, especially when the guys are firing arrows from up top. The hardest part of the game is yet to come.... spoiler:

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i think controllers + large tvs + comfy chairs situated in living room + surround sound theater system is a lot nicer and more immersive of an experience than sitting on the computer clacking the keys. you can also play with people and / or watch people etc.

the trade off of having slightly lower resolution graphics is worth it for those things imo.

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  On 4/21/2011 at 7:20 PM, mafted said:

you guys need to play HL2 on the PC, as it was intended. you can't play properly play a FPS with an X-Y axis, but i'm sure it's watered down enough to handle it. :facepalm:

i don't believe anyone mentioned playing it otherwise ?

 

at any rate, as a newbie to PC gaming, i have to agree with the above statement, and kaini's statment earlier about HL2 being an awesome pc experience.

 

currently fucking RELIEVED that i finally got out of Ravenholm. these mines aren't looking much better, though...

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  On 4/22/2011 at 7:28 AM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:

i think controllers + large tvs + comfy chairs situated in living room + surround sound theater system is a lot nicer and more immersive of an experience than sitting on the computer clacking the keys. you can also play with people and / or watch people etc.

the trade off of having slightly lower resolution graphics is worth it for those things imo.

i suck at fps with controllers but im having a whale of time with borderlands on ps3 because of the giant tv effect.

  On 4/22/2011 at 7:28 AM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:

i think controllers + large tvs + comfy chairs situated in living room + surround sound theater system is a lot nicer and more immersive of an experience than sitting on the computer clacking the keys. you can also play with people and / or watch people etc.

the trade off of having slightly lower resolution graphics is worth it for those things imo.

 

but this is solvable by using an hdmi cable and wireless keyboard+mouse/other type of controller

  On 4/22/2011 at 7:46 AM, Luke Fucking Hazard said:
  On 4/21/2011 at 7:20 PM, mafted said:

you guys need to play HL2 on the PC, as it was intended. you can't play properly play a FPS with an X-Y axis, but i'm sure it's watered down enough to handle it. :facepalm:

i don't believe anyone mentioned playing it otherwise ?

 

at any rate, as a newbie to PC gaming, i have to agree with the above statement, and kaini's statment earlier about HL2 being an awesome pc experience.

 

currently fucking RELIEVED that i finally got out of Ravenholm. these mines aren't looking much better, though...

 

Ravenholm was srs biznss. The intensity of the game really ratchets up after this point, too, imo.

 

The last few hours of battles in HL2 (prior to "Our Benefactors") is easily the most intense and exhausting experience I've ever had with gaming. You come out feeling like Gordon should be feeling, basically. Holy crap so good.

 

Edit: Anyone on the current Source build of HL2 having really weird glitches? Like corpse/ragdoll shadows appearing through walls, etc? This was all over the place in Highway 17 for me.

 

I'm about halfway through Episode One now, and it's less glitchy, much prettier, but with much worse framerate than HL2 on my computer. I don't want to dial back though, because I just want to stare at everything in all its glory.

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  On 4/22/2011 at 10:31 AM, eugene said:
  On 4/22/2011 at 7:28 AM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:

i think controllers + large tvs + comfy chairs situated in living room + surround sound theater system is a lot nicer and more immersive of an experience than sitting on the computer clacking the keys. you can also play with people and / or watch people etc.

the trade off of having slightly lower resolution graphics is worth it for those things imo.

 

but this is solvable by using an hdmi cable and wireless keyboard+mouse/other type of controller

 

yea but whose gonna haul their computer back and forth through the house just to do this ?

 

not practical at all. not to mention all the other pros about playing on console, no glitches or bugs or crashes, great streamlined online component where you can jump into games with players with mics right away, the fact you can just put the disc in and start playing the game and have it work, rather than getting like 50 game breaking bugs at once and having to go on forums to find how to fix it, the ability to play with another person in the same room, etc.

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  On 4/22/2011 at 8:30 PM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:

no glitches or bugs or crashes, great streamlined online component where you can jump into games with players with mics right away, the fact you can just put the disc in and start playing the game and have it work, rather than getting like 50 game breaking bugs at once and having to go on forums to find how to fix it, the ability to play with another person in the same room, etc.

 

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dudes

 

some people like consoles some like pcs

 

 

whoop di do

 

 

 

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  On 4/22/2011 at 8:30 PM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:
  On 4/22/2011 at 10:31 AM, eugene said:
  On 4/22/2011 at 7:28 AM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:

i think controllers + large tvs + comfy chairs situated in living room + surround sound theater system is a lot nicer and more immersive of an experience than sitting on the computer clacking the keys. you can also play with people and / or watch people etc.

the trade off of having slightly lower resolution graphics is worth it for those things imo.

 

but this is solvable by using an hdmi cable and wireless keyboard+mouse/other type of controller

 

yea but whose gonna haul their computer back and forth through the house just to do this ?

 

not practical at all. not to mention all the other pros about playing on console, no glitches or bugs or crashes, great streamlined online component where you can jump into games with players with mics right away, the fact you can just put the disc in and start playing the game and have it work, rather than getting like 50 game breaking bugs at once and having to go on forums to find how to fix it, the ability to play with another person in the same room, etc.

 

you don't have to haul dude, as i said: a wireless keyboard+mouse/any other controller, an hdmi cable, a decent gfx card and you've got the same gaming experience as with console plus the innumerable advantages of pc.

 

as for other points: bugs - i don't remember any recent pc games plagued by bugs, any decent developer will usually take care of this pretty quick anyway.

i don't see what's so un-streamlined about online gaming on pc, using a mouse to click on a couple of menus ?

just about every game that was designed for consoles and pc plays and looks better on pcs, unless it's a console port of course

 

the console gaming thing is really just a product of american mentality, which causes the retardation of the whole gaming industry

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  On 4/22/2011 at 9:23 PM, eugene said:
  On 4/22/2011 at 8:30 PM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:
  On 4/22/2011 at 10:31 AM, eugene said:
  On 4/22/2011 at 7:28 AM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:

i think controllers + large tvs + comfy chairs situated in living room + surround sound theater system is a lot nicer and more immersive of an experience than sitting on the computer clacking the keys. you can also play with people and / or watch people etc.

the trade off of having slightly lower resolution graphics is worth it for those things imo.

 

but this is solvable by using an hdmi cable and wireless keyboard+mouse/other type of controller

 

yea but whose gonna haul their computer back and forth through the house just to do this ?

 

not practical at all. not to mention all the other pros about playing on console, no glitches or bugs or crashes, great streamlined online component where you can jump into games with players with mics right away, the fact you can just put the disc in and start playing the game and have it work, rather than getting like 50 game breaking bugs at once and having to go on forums to find how to fix it, the ability to play with another person in the same room, etc.

 

you don't have to haul dude, as i said: a wireless keyboard+mouse/any other controller, an hdmi cable, a decent gfx card and you've got the same gaming experience as with console plus the innumerable advantages of pc.

 

as for other points: bugs - i don't remember any recent pc games plagued by bugs, any decent developer will usually take care of this pretty quick anyway.

i don't see what's so un-streamlined about online gaming on pc, using a mouse to click on a couple of menus ?

just about every game that was designed for consoles and pc plays and looks better on pcs, unless it's a console port of course

the console gaming thing is really just a product of american mentality, which causes the retardation of the whole gaming industry

 

is this trolling lol? Retardation of the whole gaming industry? Console games have been around since the 80s and I'm pretty sure Japan created it. Not everyone can afford expensive PCs and upgrades etc... and some people don't give a crap about higher resolutions and being super precise using a keyboard and mouse.

  On 4/22/2011 at 9:43 PM, Dirty Protest said:

I got a mouse, keyboard and an xbox controller. Thats cause I enjoy playing games using the best tools available, rather than getting a hard on about whats in my case.

 

True, games like Starcraft absolutely suck with controllers.

i myself have a pretty high end computer, i can play most games on full resolution, but the console experience is just alot more enjoyable for me. and yea, if you dont get bugs with recent games then you are extremely lucky. crysis 2 and dragon age 2 are great examples.. 25% of the userbase could hardly play those games because of glitches.

 

pc games are just extremely hard to test for. when you are doing console testing you just have one format to nail down, but with the pc there are zillions and jillions of different setups and therefor you have zillions and jillions more fuckups. recent games are riddled with them, and they always have been.

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  On 4/22/2011 at 10:01 PM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:

i myself have a pretty high end computer, i can play most games on full resolution, but the console experience is just alot more enjoyable for me. and yea, if you dont get bugs with recent games then you are extremely lucky. crysis 2 and dragon age 2 are great examples.. 25% of the userbase could hardly play those games because of glitches.

 

pc games are just extremely hard to test for. when you are doing console testing you just have one format to nail down, but with the pc there are zillions and jillions of different setups and therefor you have zillions and jillions more fuckups. recent games are riddled with them, and they always have been.

 

good point max... with consoles, it works 99% of the time how it is suppose to. PC gaming is a tad depressing for me cause I notice the limitations of my hardware when I try and max out the graphics. :(

my point with the streamlined thing is take for EXAMPLE left 4 dead. you put the disc in, press play, hop into a game with 7 other players all with mics, and have a good time

 

on the pc, first of all the game might not even work for what ever reason, you might have a graphical glitch or it could crash during install. 2nd of all, you have to basically get a group of friends together if you want to play a proper game with mics, if you want to play by yourself and just join a group of new players the chances that you will get into a lobby filled with people with mics is extremely slim. and you most likely will be downloading some other program like team speak or skype just to have communications .

on xbox all you do is plug your damn mic in, it comes with the system

 

thats just one example

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I prefer console mostly cuz I suck with a keyboard and can't afford a shiny new computer, but i'd have to say glitches and bugs are a general issue with games, not just pc or console specific. It's a by product of the 'we must have our games now!' thing that gaming culture has; it puts pressure on developers to rush games, and then they have to give us 15 patches in the first two months after release to fix issues that wouldn't exist if they'd had proper time to test the games.

 

 

  On 4/22/2011 at 10:04 PM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said:

my point with the streamlined thing is take for EXAMPLE left 4 dead. you put the disc in, press play, hop into a game with 7 other players all with mics, and have a good time

 

on the pc, first of all the game might not even work for what ever reason, you might have a graphical glitch or it could crash during install. 2nd of all, you have to basically get a group of friends together if you want to play a proper game with mics, if you want to play by yourself and just join a group of new players the chances that you will get into a lobby filled with people with mics is extremely slim. and you most likely will be downloading some other program like team speak or skype just to have communications .

on xbox all you do is plug your damn mic in, it comes with the system

 

thats just one example

 

Very true.

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Early consoles were a lot more powerful for gaming than pcs. They were designed specifically for gaming and had special hardware and sound chips. At this point consoles and pcs are basically the same thing. The reason they are still successful is partly their marketing for their price range. Try going to an electronics store and finding a decent gaming computer for $299, it isn't easy. Sure, it's possible to build something for that much or just a little bit more, but most consumers are not that savvy.

 

The real reason i will probably pick up portal2, for example, on ps3 is because my computer only has a fucking geforce 9200 integrated into it. I technically could play it on really low settings but the experience would fucking suck. Reason I bought a ps3 instead of investing money into a gaming rig? ps3 is not too badly priced, and I was somewhat naive about current gen gaming. The main reason is that I really really wanted to play metal gear solid 4(first game i bought).

 

Also I played the orange box on 360 and it was pretty cool. If you watch some of the call of duty players that are fucking amazing who play on 360(watch videos by xcalizorz or the sandy ravage, for example) you realize keyboard + mouse is not the only way to play well. Console controllers use acceleration based aiming, which is tricky to learn but pretty powerful once your skills are up. Also it is also more precise to fine tune your ground movement using an analog stick vs. using w-a-s-d keys. I think if I had a powerful enough PC i would prefer playing with an auxillary controller, only because I am quite used to it at this point.

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  On 4/22/2011 at 9:32 PM, karmakramer said:
  On 4/22/2011 at 9:23 PM, eugene said:

the console gaming thing is really just a product of american mentality, which causes the retardation of the whole gaming industry

 

is this trolling lol? Retardation of the whole gaming industry? Console games have been around since the 80s and I'm pretty sure Japan created it. Not everyone can afford expensive PCs and upgrades etc... and some people don't give a crap about higher resolutions and being super precise using a keyboard and mouse.

gaming pcs are not expensive, where did you get that idea from..

i wasn't pinpointing any particular date or place, just the current trend that feeds from this stereotypical american mental laziness

 

i don't mind consoles as long as we don't get deus ex >> deus ex:invisible war, and similar abominations which affect pc gamers as well.

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People just making shit up to win arguments =)

 

L4D2 worked no problem on the PC. I could have bought 2 xboxes for the cost of my GPUs.

 

Most games wouldnt be made for the PC is it wasnt for consoles. Consoles dont have enough ram to make anything other than 10 minute windows of fun.

The internet, making a point 1 sentence at a time.

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