lyst Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 Here is him saying everyone "copycats" him: "There have been a lot of copycats but I knew if I made it as personal as possible then no one could copy it. It makes me feel kind of naked though (laughs). What’s the copycat thing? Your sound is quite distinctive, but after a couple of releases people have had time to get used to it. Is it your sound specifically that people are copying or just a new style of music that’s emerged? I don’t know man, maybe if you don’t hear it then it’s just me. I think it’s pretty obvious, I’m grateful people like what I’m doing but they don’t have to try and copy my last record." http://www.dummymag.com/features/2010/06/28/flying-lotus-interview/ You must not listen to him much or read his tweets if you've never made that connection, not my problem dude. He's one of those dudes that hates newcomers and will go out of his way to step on the little guy just starting out. A lot of his stuff is very subtle though. It's also embedded in his language as well, he refers to all other people making this kind of music as "kids." Which I am reading now in many different interviews. "Pitchfork: Has it changed for better or for worse in some ways? FL: Well, I feel like a lot of kids, a lot of halfway kids, come out here, kids who started making beats six months ago, thinking they can get on stage because their drums are off. This kind of stuff annoys me" One collaboration with Odd Future is too much. More collaberations are in the works, via interview with Complex "Are you doing any more tracks with Odd Future? I'm talking with a few other dudes like Domo [Genesis] " And he states Odd Future is an inspiration to him..... That's just sad. "Who are you listening to in particular that's inspired you? ...And obviously Odd Future, those are my peoples, and all the A$AP kids." Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lyst's signature Hide all signatures my choons. Spotify Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyst Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 PS: I'm not saying anyone else should dislike him for these reasons, this is my personal belief. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lyst's signature Hide all signatures my choons. Spotify Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 On 8/19/2012 at 5:35 PM, lyst said: I once was a Flylo fan, in a galaxy far far away. Same as you my friend. I've never done such a drastic u-turn on an artist in my life. I guess seeing him live, dressed head to toe in a white suit, prancing around behind a laptop, while shouting out the most stupid inane things I have ever heard in my life didn't help. Hahah, it's almost laughable. What a joke. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvatorin Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 well I'm glad that I haven't ever had much interest in what he has to say, I just listen to the music, nuff said. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Salvatorin's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ruiagnelo Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 It's funny how some people often utilize irrelevant aspects not related to music to emphasize how they hate the music. "i really am not sure about this guy's tunes... wait, is that a white suite?! god damn, this guy is definitely a terrible musician" Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) Oh sorry I forgot to add the icing on the cake, the music he played was shit too. Happy now? Edited August 19, 2012 by beerwolf Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeantk Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 On 8/19/2012 at 8:14 PM, Salvatorin said: well I'm glad that I haven't ever had much interest in what he has to say, I just listen to the music, nuff said. this, and i'm surprised some people here don't like his sound as much as they did just a couple years ago, but everyone is entitled to liking/disliking whatever i guess Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sergeantk's signature Hide all signatures My music (zanderone) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur Posted August 19, 2012 Report Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) On 8/19/2012 at 7:27 PM, lyst said: Here is him saying everyone "copycats" him: "There have been a lot of copycats but I knew if I made it as personal as possible then no one could copy it. It makes me feel kind of naked though (laughs). What’s the copycat thing? Your sound is quite distinctive, but after a couple of releases people have had time to get used to it. Is it your sound specifically that people are copying or just a new style of music that’s emerged? I don’t know man, maybe if you don’t hear it then it’s just me. I think it’s pretty obvious, I’m grateful people like what I’m doing but they don’t have to try and copy my last record." http://www.dummymag....otus-interview/ You must not listen to him much or read his tweets if you've never made that connection, not my problem dude. He's one of those dudes that hates newcomers and will go out of his way to step on the little guy just starting out. A lot of his stuff is very subtle though. It's also embedded in his language as well, he refers to all other people making this kind of music as "kids." Which I am reading now in many different interviews. "Pitchfork: Has it changed for better or for worse in some ways? FL: Well, I feel like a lot of kids, a lot of halfway kids, come out here, kids who started making beats six months ago, thinking they can get on stage because their drums are off. This kind of stuff annoys me" One collaboration with Odd Future is too much. More collaberations are in the works, via interview with Complex "Are you doing any more tracks with Odd Future? I'm talking with a few other dudes like Domo [Genesis] " And he states Odd Future is an inspiration to him..... That's just sad. "Who are you listening to in particular that's inspired you? ...And obviously Odd Future, those are my peoples, and all the A$AP kids." The copycat thing is annoying, not necessarily coming out of Flying Lotus's mouth, but the whole subject in general. Glitch Hop existed before Flying Lotus started making beats in 2005. I will say that Flying Lotus might have put the Los Angeles sound on the map but people aren't copying him. He has a distinct sound. The last thing I need is Flying Lotus fans telling me about how my favorite Experimental Hip Hop producers are Flying Lotus clones, but it happens almost everyday. The Odd Future deal is irrelevent, who cares? It has nothing to do with his own music. You sound like the people who are starting to dislike Kendrick Lamar because he's working with Lady Gaga, or Kanye West because he's going to work with Skrillex. If small crap like that makes you no longer a fan of a certain musician I'm not sure if you could call yourself a fan or a prior fan at all. Edited August 19, 2012 by Jur Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Jur's signature Hide all signatures https://jurmainson.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Beerwolf, pretty much all electronic music is shit live, so you can't really hold that against him. At least I don't. The performance aspect of it is never, ever there with electronic musicians as much as seeing a great band. On the other hand, Autechre's live music is absolutely mindblowing (saw them on Quaristice tour), but playing in a pitch black room is not my idea of a great live music experience no matter how you dress it up. It all comes down to what they deliver on the actual record and FlyLo has pretty much nailed it there. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 His ego may be a little bit inflated, but I'm still a huge fan of his music... He should just remember that glitch-hop and instrumental hip-hop existed before he did. If anything he owes credit to J Dilla, Madlib, and Prefuse 73 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ghOsty's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 On 8/20/2012 at 5:02 AM, Candiru said: Beerwolf, pretty much all electronic music is shit live this is simply not as true as it used to be, although there have been plenty of exceptions along the way Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 On 8/20/2012 at 5:18 AM, ghOsty said: If anything he owes credit to J Dilla, Madlib, and Prefuse 73 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 If he thinks certain musicians are biting him he should air it out, not so much to name & shame but letting the court of public/individual opinion decide whether he's egotistically delusional or has legit beef. Prefuse was exactly like this a while back and it derailed him into mediocrity for a while. Shut piehole, focus on making good music, everything else falls into place. I really can't say I know who Odd Future are but they appear to be some kool kieth wannabe crew for the young'uns... don't mind him collaborating with them though sofar as the output is decent. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BobDobalina's signature Hide all signatures CA$HNE$$ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 On 8/20/2012 at 5:34 AM, Bob Dobalina said: Shut piehole, focus on making good music, everything else falls into place. 100%. This is all there should be to it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Durv Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 On 1/19/2012 at 9:12 PM, feltcher said: Cosmogramma should have been a double album, where each track lasted longer than a minute and the ideas were given room to breath. This. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 Last 7 posts or so in this thread reminds me that registering and joining this forum was a good decision. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Jur's signature Hide all signatures https://jurmainson.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) On 8/20/2012 at 6:00 AM, Jur said: Last 7 posts or so in this thread reminds me that registering and joining this forum was a good decision. Sarcastic? =( I just meant prefuse 73 is a major player in this came, largely uncredited and unknown.... Edited August 20, 2012 by StephenG Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) On 8/20/2012 at 6:04 AM, StephenG said: On 8/20/2012 at 6:00 AM, Jur said: Last 7 posts or so in this thread reminds me that registering and joining this forum was a good decision. Sarcastic? =( No, not at all. I really do enjoy the discussions on this forum. Edited August 20, 2012 by Jur Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Jur's signature Hide all signatures https://jurmainson.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 hmmmmm.... can't tell if THAT was sarcastice! Touche Jur... Touche... lol. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted August 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 there is no room for egos in the idm world Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 On 8/20/2012 at 6:15 AM, StephenG said: hmmmmm.... can't tell if THAT was sarcastice! Touche Jur... Touche... lol. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Jur's signature Hide all signatures https://jurmainson.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Mughnus Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 "If you're going to do it do it properly, and make sure you enjoy it" - Vibert-I-Sampled-It-From-Somewhere On 8/20/2012 at 6:21 AM, Jur said: On 8/20/2012 at 6:15 AM, StephenG said: hmmmmm.... can't tell if THAT was sarcastice! Touche Jur... Touche... lol. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Hugh Mughnus's signature Hide all signatures On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said: Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said: don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyst Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 On 8/19/2012 at 11:19 PM, Jur said: On 8/19/2012 at 7:27 PM, lyst said: Here is him saying everyone "copycats" him: "There have been a lot of copycats but I knew if I made it as personal as possible then no one could copy it. It makes me feel kind of naked though (laughs). What’s the copycat thing? Your sound is quite distinctive, but after a couple of releases people have had time to get used to it. Is it your sound specifically that people are copying or just a new style of music that’s emerged? I don’t know man, maybe if you don’t hear it then it’s just me. I think it’s pretty obvious, I’m grateful people like what I’m doing but they don’t have to try and copy my last record." http://www.dummymag....otus-interview/ You must not listen to him much or read his tweets if you've never made that connection, not my problem dude. He's one of those dudes that hates newcomers and will go out of his way to step on the little guy just starting out. A lot of his stuff is very subtle though. It's also embedded in his language as well, he refers to all other people making this kind of music as "kids." Which I am reading now in many different interviews. "Pitchfork: Has it changed for better or for worse in some ways? FL: Well, I feel like a lot of kids, a lot of halfway kids, come out here, kids who started making beats six months ago, thinking they can get on stage because their drums are off. This kind of stuff annoys me" One collaboration with Odd Future is too much. More collaberations are in the works, via interview with Complex "Are you doing any more tracks with Odd Future? I'm talking with a few other dudes like Domo [Genesis] " And he states Odd Future is an inspiration to him..... That's just sad. "Who are you listening to in particular that's inspired you? ...And obviously Odd Future, those are my peoples, and all the A$AP kids." The copycat thing is annoying, not necessarily coming out of Flying Lotus's mouth, but the whole subject in general. Glitch Hop existed before Flying Lotus started making beats in 2005. I will say that Flying Lotus might have put the Los Angeles sound on the map but people aren't copying him. He has a distinct sound. The last thing I need is Flying Lotus fans telling me about how my favorite Experimental Hip Hop producers are Flying Lotus clones, but it happens almost everyday. The Odd Future deal is irrelevent, who cares? It has nothing to do with his own music. You sound like the people who are starting to dislike Kendrick Lamar because he's working with Lady Gaga, or Kanye West because he's going to work with Skrillex. If small crap like that makes you no longer a fan of a certain musician I'm not sure if you could call yourself a fan or a prior fan at all. Wrong and wrong. People like Daedelus put LA on the map for that kind of sound. NOT Flying Lotus. And I do believe who you work with matters, for instance- Hudson Mohawke + Lunice. Lunice's bereft of any real creativity style has fucked with Hudmo's full of bang soul / electro feel. He's even admitted it, that he didn't think he'd be making just plain beats like this and that it feels weird leaving the underground scene. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lyst's signature Hide all signatures my choons. Spotify Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jur Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 You're basically saying Flying Lotus had zero influence on the Los Angeles beat making scene back in 2006 with 1983 then? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Jur's signature Hide all signatures https://jurmainson.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokn Posted August 20, 2012 Report Share Posted August 20, 2012 On 8/20/2012 at 1:29 PM, lyst said: And I do believe who you work with matters, for instance- Hudson Mohawke + Lunice. Lunice's bereft of any real creativity style has fucked with Hudmo's full of bang soul / electro feel. He's even admitted it, that he didn't think he'd be making just plain beats like this and that it feels weird leaving the underground scene. Where do you have this from? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide tokn's signature Hide all signatures Check my dusty tunes and mixes over here: https://soundcloud.com/2kn Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/71172-flying-lotus-until-the-quiet-comes/page/10/#findComment-1866368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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